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LewisD wrote:Just realised this is the British Grand Prix weekend. I'm already booked for an all weekend BBQ and beer session with my brother

Edit: I meant to post this in the London meetup thread

It’s my weekend in work so I’ll be hopping to finish early enough to get home and watch qualifying and the race (think they’re 3pm starts so should be home in plenty of time), so even without the meet up it’ll be a p”entry busy weekend for myself! Hope everyone who goes has a good time though

captain red dog wrote:It was a pretty decent race until Leclerc was robbed by the engine dying, wasn't too bad after that was it was a gift of a win for Max.

Mercedes will definitely be in contention for wins pretty soon based on this improvement, they may even be able to drag themselves back into title contention if Ferrari and Red Bull keep having gremlins. Its a long shot, but it's not quite completely over for them.

As far as the races this track normally produces, I thought this years effort was very good comparatively, shows the regulations are working as intended to some degree, obviously still tweaks to be made behind the scenes.

Mercedes only saving grace to their poor start (by their standards) to the season is that both other teams have had reliability issues or mistakes from their drivers whereas Mercedes haven’t yet, if they can start winning races before the summer break they’ll probably think they’re still in with a slim chance.

All I want is for Hamilton to get a win this year, whenever that will be, so he continues his unbroken record of winning in every year in f1.

To be fair, if Kevin hadn't rammed into him, I could totally see Lewis winning yesterday if he could keep blocking the Red Bulls

Totally. If the mercs had been together on track, one would have held up Max and the other would have made a gap that made a pit undercut very difficult, and I don't see RB letting Perez past Max to utilise his additional pace advantage.

Looking at the replay again, I don't know what the hell Magnussen was doing. I know they've tried to be more lenient this year with penalties, but to me that looks like a poor error on his part that severely impacted Lewis' race.

Lewis barely moved off line at all, nothing more than you would normally expect a car on the inside to do - but Kevin just kept squeezing him and rammed into his side.

I think racing incident was the right call on that, Magnussen was going for a risky move round turn 4 to give him the inside line into 5, Hamilton just under-steered into his path. Nothing Hamilton could have done other than dabbing the brakes, nothing Magnussen could have done at that second as he wouldn’t have had a clue Hamilton was on full lock trying to turn into the corner.

Anyone got highlights link?

Robbo-92 wrote:I think racing incident was the right call on that, Magnussen was going for a risky move round turn 4 to give him the inside line into 5, Hamilton just under-steered into his path. Nothing Hamilton could have done other than dabbing the brakes, nothing Magnussen could have done at that second as he wouldn’t have had a clue Hamilton was on full lock trying to turn into the corner.

He wasn't understeering at all from what I could see, he was just holding the line and Magnusson turned in too tightly and clipped him.

Yeah, it seems pretty clear looking at the replay. I think Kevin is still a bit rusty in some situations, it was a completely needless accident.

Besides just the bullshit team orders the thing I find striking with this is the difference in composure between Perez and Verstappen, who seems to throw a tantrum every other race now.

I get that the team is really obviously set up for Verstappen to challenge for WDC so his race always has more riding on it, but it must suck to be treated this way all the same.

obviously gonna be frustrating but he was hired for one reason, and thats to be the best #2 on the grid

as dc said on the commentary he'll probably regret the post race complaints, max is signed on a till death contract so what exactly does he think the outcome will be

sad for leclerc, especially as hes my fantasy turbo driver so very selfish of him tbh

Victor Mildew wrote:
Robbo-92 wrote:I think racing incident was the right call on that, Magnussen was going for a risky move round turn 4 to give him the inside line into 5, Hamilton just under-steered into his path. Nothing Hamilton could have done other than dabbing the brakes, nothing Magnussen could have done at that second as he wouldn’t have had a clue Hamilton was on full lock trying to turn into the corner.

He wasn't understeering at all from what I could see, he was just holding the line and Magnusson turned in too tightly and clipped him.

From the very few onboards I’ve seen he doesn’t seem to be under-steering but I seem to think that’s what was said in commentary yesterday? Just found the below tweet, which shows that if he was suffering it was minimal at best, Magnussen didn’t seem 100% confident going round the outside but obviously as we’ve seen from him, he’ll give it a go regardless. The angle Magnussen would have been at coming out of that corner if he’d passed Hamilton would have been very tight too.

twitter.com/f1/status/1528484596202889216

I still think a penalty for Magnussen would have been harsh, if one of them literally had to be awarded a penalty for it then yeah, Magnussen would get it but a racing incident is the right call still in my opinion.

twitter.com/f1torulethemall/status/1528545672403767297

That’s the clip I saw which I thought might have backed up the under-steer claim, Hamilton’s car definitely veers slightly away from the corner (but then that’s the racing line) despite other onboard clips showing he has steering lock on to the right.

Hamilton is ahead going into the corner and Magnussen was definitely steering far more to the right into Lewis than any deviation from Lewis himself - plus it was silly going that close anyway, leaves zero room for any natural movement while cornering. Personally I think it's an error on Kevin's part; in the end it ruined his own race more than it ruined Lewis' so he sort of paid the penalty I guess.

Monaco lap before the barriers are up.

If you look at Hamiltons line compared to the car in front, he wasn't drifting unduly wide at all. Magnussen almost seemed to turn in too much. Racing incident for me though, it needs something quite reckless to earn a penalty on the first lap with all the moves going on.

Some teams wanting the budget cap increased due to inflation.

My view: tough luck, manage your expenditure. Inflation sucks but it was already on the cards in late 2021. I also think that once rules are set they should be unmodified other than for rule clarification purposes. I think the weight complaints and budget complaints would work against some teams like Alfa who accounted for all this stuff properly in advance.

They really shouldn’t be thinking about upping the budget cap, even just for increased costs of items due to the situation we’re in now, the lower half of the grid probably won’t have a problem spending less than the maximum amount so there’s no way the upper half of the grid should get a basically a free pass to a few more developments.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... pectations

This is concerning for Ricciardo, 6 races in and to be told publicly you’re not meeting expectations is bad to say the least, maybe Ricciardo won’t be on the grid next year out of poor performances rather than out of choice?

Wonder if its Zac opening the door to get Pato O'ward a drive and spur on Danny to improve. Maybe hes the next Jacques Vilneuve or Montoya in making the successful jump from indy to F1

I imagine it’s to try and spur him on a bit but it could easily have the opposite impact. I’ve no idea how Ricciardo’s strategy was in Spain but it’s not a great showing when you start ahead of your teammate and finish behind him, doubly so when your teammate has tonsillitis…..

Is O’Ward going to do the two FP1 sessions for McLaren?

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