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Who do you think will be the WDC and WCC winner for the 2021 F1 season?

Sir Lewis Hamilton
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29%
Valtteri Bottas
1
2%
Max Verstappen
11
19%
Sergio Perez
0
No votes
Lando Norris
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3%
Daniel Ricciardo
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No votes
Sebastian Vettel
0
No votes
Lance Stroll
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No votes
Fernando Alonso
1
2%
Esteban Ocon
0
No votes
Charles Leclerc
0
No votes
Carlos Sainz Jr
0
No votes
Pierre Gasly
0
No votes
Yuki Tsunoda
0
No votes
Kimi Raikkonen
0
No votes
Antonio Giovinazzi
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No votes
Mick Schumacher
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No votes
Nikita Mazepin
0
No votes
George Russel
2
3%
Nicholas Latifi
0
No votes
Mercedes
17
29%
Red Bull Racing
3
5%
McLaren
2
3%
Aston Martin
1
2%
Alpine
1
2%
Ferrari
0
No votes
Alpha Tauri
0
No votes
Alfa Romeo
0
No votes
Haas
0
No votes
Williams
1
2%
 
Total votes: 59
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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Captain Kinopio » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:47 pm

Looking at the breakdown of the incident with Chandock and the penalty for Lewis just seems nonsensical to me.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Robbo-92 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:51 pm

The more I see that incident the more the blame lies with Verstappen rather than Hamilton, still think it’s a racing incident (and no penalty) overall but if you had to blame someone, Verstappen comes off worse in my opinion.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by KK » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:53 pm

Toto Wolf ordering all his team hamburgers rather than calling Horner tonight. No onions for Coulthard.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Cosmo » Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:57 pm

Christian Horner is such a bitter man. If I were Hamilton and I saw that post-race interview I’d be livid.

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by Robbo-92 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:02 pm

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Neo Cortex » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:06 pm

Max strawberry floated up but you can't say he strawberry floated up

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by Neo Cortex » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:07 pm

Cosmo wrote:Christian Horner is such a bitter man. If I were Hamilton and I saw that post-race interview I’d be livid.


I wouldn't, if I were Lewis I'd be happy at spanking red bull on their actual home grand prix.

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by captain red dog » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:16 pm

Totally agree with what Lewis said in the paddock. Max always puts the ball in the other person's court when overtaking or defending. You either back off or he will risk a crash. He's always been like that.

It will only work so long as the other driver backs off. If they don't, it's a racing incident, always has been. Had Max backed off, he could have still easily won the race either by getting the tow on Hanger or through the stops.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Robbo-92 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:58 pm

twitter.com/max33verstappen/status/1416816722200469508



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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Captain Kinopio » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:11 pm

He and Horner are a perfect couple of twats. Just right for each other.

Shame they're still going to coast to the title. Though I can see them going ultra aggressive after this. Probably to their detriment more than anything else but can see it getting worse before they grow up.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Superking » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:14 pm

It is quite something that they make me want the team that’s won for 8 years straight to win again lol. I wish mclaren could challenge again :(

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Vermilion » Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:59 pm

I'm just disappointed that Leclerc couldn't hold on to take the win.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:13 pm

The comments by Horner and Verstappen :fp: hopefully they realise most of the racing community think they are wrong.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by captain red dog » Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:50 pm

Not really sure what Max wanted Lewis to do with 100,000 fans that thought he was fine, wanting to celebrate a great win. Had this happened at Zandvoort, there is absolutely no way Max wouldn't have celebrated.

I still don't understand why he was defending so hard all of that lap. He has to adapt his style to his circumstances, the championship leader doesn't need to take that sort of risk when he still has a considerable advantage with the car. At most he would have dropped 4 points and would have likely gained them back at Hungary.

He isn't in the "nothing to lose" situation anymore.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Neo Cortex » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:13 pm

From a pace perspective Max was toast anyway

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Robbo-92 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:22 pm

Really? I think if Max had done the sensible option and let Hamilton go, he’d have got him later on anyway, maybe not on track but a reasonable chance of getting him in the pits.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Pancake » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:58 pm

Thought the incident was more Hamilton's fault than Verstappen's and the penalty was fitting, it's a shame of course that Max ended with a harsher punishment but I do not understand what Horner has to complain about, ridiculous comments really, making himself look like an idiot.

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Neo Cortex » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:00 pm

Robbo-92 wrote:Really? I think if Max had done the sensible option and let Hamilton go, he’d have got him later on anyway, maybe not on track but a reasonable chance of getting him in the pits.


I don't know where Lewis' pace came from. Also. Inside is key. In my opinion max should have yielded and gone back. The men were neck and neck anyway

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by floydfreak » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:01 pm

Horner sounded all thru the race about the incident as a complete whingebag loser he is so full of entitlement. Hamilton should of waited too pass as he clearly had the pace over Verstappen who's tyres which were still not fully up too temp. Hamilton should of got a harsher penalty

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PostRe: The official Formula One and General Motorsport thread for the 2021 season! Mercedes domination cancelled for 2021!
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:03 pm

What annoys me most is every time a driver in an incident like that is punished it puts another dent in the chances of seeing drivers race each other.

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