The Prebuilt PC Thread - by the command of Falsey

[HSH28]

But its 500 quid! thats like decent money to spend on something decent this makes no sense instead you would rather spend it on a machine made by a brand ive only ever heard of making some very very cheap netbooks! you literally have no idea of the components they have used and before you say that someone wont care what parts they have used they will when the psu blows or the HDD dies taking all there data with it!

The parts in that machine aren't any more likely to blow than components you buy yourself.

Spec an i5 with a £100 graphics card and a 1TB HDD and a copy of Windows 7 for under £500. Try it.

Those parts there at the moment will set you back well over £400, before you've looked at a PSU, case, motherboard, DVD drive or anything else you want.

A £500 prebuild won't be as good as something you can build yourself and it won't be as good to upgrade later, but it just isn't more expensive at the moment.

[False]

You cant spec anything with a 1TB HDD for a reasonable price at the minute.

[HSH28]

£350.

OEM license and smart part buying. Like a boss.

Also i bet some of those components could be used later on when you upgrade? Amirite? Wheres i dont think theres anything in these prebuilds we are linked to could be used again in fact id be suprised if they last longer then a year.

Complete nonsense. Utter drivel. You literally don't know what you are talking about.

£350.

OEM license and smart part buying. Like a boss.

Can't possibly have a 1TB HDD, I don't see how you can do that with an i5 and on that tight a budget the graphics card can't be better either. I quite simply don't believe you.

And technically you aren't supposed to buy OEM copies of Windows now unless you are selling the machine on, OEM is no longer valid for self/friend builds.

[False]

So, to summarise;

Hugo's argument - Its not as good but its not as expensive!

[False]

Can't possibly have a 1TB HDD, I don't see how you can do that with an i5 and on that tight a budget the graphics card can't be better either. I quite simply don't believe you.

And technically you aren't supposed to buy OEM copies of Windows now unless you are selling the machine on, OEM is no longer valid for self/friend builds.

It has a 2TB HDD, and an oc i3.

Im a Microsoft Partner so I can do with my licenses whatever the strawberry float they say I can if thats alright with you boss.

[Wiggy G32]

But its 500 quid! thats like decent money to spend on something decent this makes no sense instead you would rather spend it on a machine made by a brand ive only ever heard of making some very very cheap netbooks! you literally have no idea of the components they have used and before you say that someone wont care what parts they have used they will when the psu blows or the HDD dies taking all there data with it!

The parts in that machine aren't any more likely to blow than components you buy yourself.

Spec an i5 with a £100 graphics card and a 1TB HDD and a copy of Windows 7 for under £500. Try it.

Those parts there at the moment will set you back well over £400, before you've looked at a PSU, case, motherboard, DVD drive or anything else you want.

A £500 prebuild won't be as good as something you can build yourself and it won't be as good to upgrade later, but it just isn't more expensive at the moment.

Well it is very likely the whole machine will use cheaper parts as you know they have to make a profit out of the whole thing so they will use the cheapest parts going

[HSH28]

Can't possibly have a 1TB HDD, I don't see how you can do that with an i5 and on that tight a budget the graphics card can't be better either. I quite simply don't believe you.

And technically you aren't supposed to buy OEM copies of Windows now unless you are selling the machine on, OEM is no longer valid for self/friend builds.

It has a 2TB HDD, and an oc i3.

Im a Microsoft Partner so I can do with my licenses whatever the strawberry float they say I can if thats alright with you boss.

If you are selling it anyone can. But this is about people doing it for themselves, technically they aren't supposed to use OEM licenses on machines they build themselves.

As for i3 vs i5...

The i5 is quad core, the i3 isn't. The i5 has Turbo Boost, the i3 doesn't. The i3 has hyper-threading, while i5 doesn't.

Rather have the prebuild i5 thanks.

[False]

Quad core is inconsequential given that the machine is used for general gaming and not heavily threaded tasks, the turbo boost is null because the oc i3 is already faster than the gooseberry fool tier i5 in the prebuild.

Next.

[HSH28]

You aren't still on your quad core is useless rant are you, remember when you wouldn't admit the Q6600 was the best value/performance CPU you could buy...fun times.

And what amazing graphics card did you put in this £350 PC?

[False]

No I dont remember that. And I got a GTX460.

[HSH28]

Maybe it wasn't you, some PC fanatic on here though.

Did you perhaps in this build use some parts that you didn't include in the price?

CPU - £100
GFX - £130
Case+Motherboard+PSU > £70
HDD of decent size > £70
RAM - £30

Thats £400 and assuming you didn't pay for your OEM copy of Windows.

Perhaps you can cut some of those prices, but I don't see how you get it anywhere near £350.

[False]

All parts were on the budget because someone else paid for it.

Like I said. Smart parts buying.

[TheTurnipKing]

Exactly why would most people need more SATA ports? Its a budget PC on a budget without the hassle of putting it all together. It is what it is and if you have a problem with it, then I'd suggest thats something you probably want to examine for yourself

It's not the number of SATA ports which is the factor (AS you say, most people probably don't really need more than two or three drives in their PC). It's that the core design of Intel's boards usually calls for a certain number of ports. Older or cheaper boards tend to have a smaller number, and because the number of ports is small, it indicates this may be such a board, and because the board is a central component and everything is shuttled through it, it may adversely affect system performance - certainly expandability.

And I have to fall back on this because there's no way of telling what Mobo is in that particular Zoostorm short of cracking open the case (and incidently voiding the warranty).

[HSH28]

Exactly why would most people need more SATA ports? Its a budget PC on a budget without the hassle of putting it all together. It is what it is and if you have a problem with it, then I'd suggest thats something you probably want to examine for yourself

It's not the number of SATA ports which is the factor (AS you say, most people probably don't really need more than two or three drives in their PC). It's that the core design of Intel's boards usually calls for a certain number of ports. Older or cheaper boards tend to have a smaller number, and because the number of ports is small, it indicates this may be such a board, and because the board is a central component and everything is shuttled through it, it may adversely affect system performance - certainly expandability.

And I have to fall back on this because there's no way of telling what Mobo is in that particular Zoostorm short of cracking open the case (and incidently voiding the warranty).

According to the anonymous review...

The motherboard is an ECS H61H2-M2

[Peter Crisp]

Why do you guys care if people want to spend a few quid more for the convenience of a pre-build? Millions are sold every year round the world so it's not exactly a unusual purchasing decision.

[False]

I dont give a strawberry float - but if theyre going to ask for my professional opinion then Id tell them to look at something else. Is that alright with you?

[Peter Crisp]

Then tell them in the topic but this just seems like self important and superior lecturing just because a few of you prefer self builds when pre-builds are just as valid even if they are slightly more expensive.
Just saying don't buy them is no better than a topic about not buying a PS3.

[False]

You shouldnt buy a PS3 either.

[Peter Crisp]

So topics like this are fine now are they?

[False]

I guess so