The Prebuilt PC Thread - by the command of Falsey

[False]

This is what happens when someone who is utterly clueless tries to force an incorrect viewpoint across.

[Stugene]

I like the "You shouldn't be using Microsoft Partners Windows 7 keys on your own stuff!" post.
I like the "This piece of gooseberry fool prebuild, with gooseberry fool components, is so much easier to buy and set up!" post.
I like the "strawberry float off silva, your arguements make sense, but you swear and the tears come when you swear" post.

Archive request.

[HSH28]

This is what happens when someone who is utterly clueless tries to force an incorrect viewpoint across.

Except there you run into problems, because I actually do know what I'm talking about.

[Captian Kil]

This is what happens when someone who is utterly clueless tries to force an incorrect viewpoint across.

Except there you run into problems, because I actually do know what I'm talking about.

Do you? I mean really, do you?

[False]

This is what happens when someone who is utterly clueless tries to force an incorrect viewpoint across.

Except there you run into problems, because I actually do know what I'm talking about.

Yup. Sure seems like it.

[$ilva $hadow]

I like the "You shouldn't be using Microsoft Partners Windows 7 keys on your own stuff!" post.
I like the "This piece of gooseberry fool prebuild, with gooseberry fool components, is so much easier to buy and set up!" post.
I like the "strawberry float off silva, your arguements make sense, but you swear and the tears come when you swear" post.

Archive request.

That's the main cause of my bans. The fact that I fall to pieces when confronted with sheer blind faced ignorance, that I can't help but devolve into a puddle of curse words.

[Wiggy G32]

I think ill repeat what i said before there's nothing wrong with getting a decent prebuild if you really are that lazy or have to much money but the ones you are linking to hugo are pure rubbish i just cant see why you are backing them so much it makes no sense.

Heres a story of a decent prebuild i bought like 5 years ago a Dell XPS 420 just after Xmas it costs me like 600 and the specs were amazing it literally was at least 300 less then if i had bought the bits this was because it was a Clearance end of the line item. I used it as is for a year or two but changed the GPU in the end and the psu which i then both used in a self build later on. In that case a prebuild was a good call as it was a lot cheaper then buying the bits myself and while it didnt have the best components in it they were half decent quality as it was from there XPS range unlike the stuff you are linking to which is cheap as possible.

[TheTurnipKing]

What are modern Dells like internally, anyway? Is it like buying a indie build, or is the usual hotchpotch of stupid, arbitrary restrictions?

[Donk]

Don't buy one

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This post should be quoted at the top of every page of this thread.

[HSH28]

the ones you are linking to hugo are pure rubbish i just cant see why you are backing them so much it makes no sense.

Except they aren't.

They aren't 'pure rubbish'. Budget components might not be what you'd buy, but that doesn't make them not worth having. The CPU and GFX in the machine are good for the price and it has a fair sized HDD, the fact its on a budget motherboard with relatively low speed (though still pretty fast) RAM in a budget case doesn't make the machine pure rubbish.

It means its no good for upgrading, I've said that already. But if someone just wants a cheap machine to play games on and doesn't want to worry about what goes in it, then thats the kind of machine they should buy.

A decent CPU and a graphics card that'll run modern games, with plenty of space on the HDD. The rest isn't worth paying extra for at that level of interest.

By the way I also bought an XPS 420 for about the same price some years ago, still using it. Did an upgrade on everything but the motherboard and CPU a few months ago and its as good as I'd want it to be even now.

[TheTurnipKing]

Are we still talking about that machine with HD2000 graphics? Because those are pretty much the definition of "pure rubbish", at least for the presumed purpose of playing games. They're borderline with X360 graphics now, and we've a whole new console generation incoming.

[HSH28]

Are we still talking about that machine with HD2000 graphics? Because those are pretty much the definition of "pure rubbish", at least for the presumed purpose of playing games.

I was talking about the one with a GTS450 in it.

You either buy that at £495 or one at just under £300 and then a graphics card to go in it, but then you have to worry about perhaps replacing the PSU as well.

[$ilva $hadow]

Are you seriously that desperate to not be wrong?

If someone comes onto the forum asking for advice and doesn't want to worry about what goes inside, they state their budget and get their pc specced up to order by someone else. Don't you see that the work is being done for them already?

Why are you obsessed with getting noobs to buy junk just so you can feel right?

[HSH28]

Don't you see that the work is being done for them already?

You obviously can't comprehend that someone else might not see it that way, so why don't you just leave the topic and peddle your snobbish scaremongering somewhere else.

[$ilva $hadow]

if someone just wants a cheap machine to play games on and doesn't want to worry about what goes in it, then thats the kind of machine they should buy.

You obviously can't comprehend that someone else might not see it that way, so why don't you just leave the topic and peddle your snobbish scaremongering somewhere else.

All the work is being done for the person asking for advice, the person who wants a new computer doesn't have to understand a single thing except how much they will have to pay for the components and how much to have them assembled by another person. That's it. You make it sound like it's a life changing decision they have to make, why are you scaremongering just to prove your invalid point? Why can't you ever be wrong? Is it like some kind of OCD that you can't let go until you recognise that you're being acknowledged as right? I'm afraid you're in for disappointment because you're wrong. All you do is scaremonger against ordering separate parts.

[That]

This thread is a piece of garbage and everyone who posted in it should feel bad.

[Mafro]

[That]

Especially you.

[Green Gecko]

I guess Hugo has never heard of qa. Or varying BIOS stability. Or cheap bottleneck data buses. Or cooling. Or any number of inumerable aspects of hardware design that are skimped at the extreme low end to reduce the reliability and performance unbeknownst to the layman. Oh well. How can you believe that is not the case when you're comparing to a mid tier overpriced build like a Dell xps? You just assume it will last.

Also pretending these prebuilds supposedly never break down or malfunction and therefore are not totally awful long term investments is humorous at best.

Edit: ah topic locked.

[HSH28]

Also pretending these prebuilds supposedly never break down or malfunction and therefore are not totally awful long term investments is humorous at best.

I don't know where I pretended that.

I don't think they are significantly more likely to break or malfunction than other PCs, you just have to look in the self build topic to see that most PCs will have issues at some point. I think over emphasising issues likely to occur with a PC like this is irresponsible at best.

Parts used in these machines can have issues, no doubt...but then again, parts you buy individually can have issues too.

And I nowhere did I say someone wouldn't get a better machine by building it themselves, but there are other issues and I think the problems you might have with a machine like this for a layman user are being massively overstated by some of you.