FatDaz wrote:I’ve always said 6 and I voted 6 but I can totally see the argument that 5 didn’t have a single bad episode whereas the ending to 6 was a little iffy (though miles better that’s the recent stuff). Gunmen of the apocalypse remains my favourite episode from sheer spectacle even if there were better plots.
I’ve just done a complete re watch and I still hate series 8 with a passion. The whole point was that lister was the last human, having the whole crew brought back was stupid and the prison / dirty dozen concept was garbage.
The most recent series seem to have massive pacing issues and they all seem to end very abruptly. They don’t even try to tie up story threads just end, credits and move on with events never mentioned again.
In doing the re watch there are a lot of plot holes, Ret cons and flat out mistakes. The worst for me is the change that lister DID date Kochanski. The whole point was that he admired her from afar and had very few actual conversations with her, hence Holly bringing back Rimmer instead.
Yeah, the Lister Kochanski relationship seems to get retconned along with a few other things (like the ship suddenly gaining 1000 new crewmembers) when they fold some of the lore of the first two books into the TV series from IV onward. I don't mind it too much at that point, but come series VII when they start to dig into their relationship more it starts to get a bit wonky. Continuity has never been the shows main focus to be fair and the early era ethos of "it doesn't matter as long as what we are doing is good/funny" tends to hold up well, the ret cons and errors only start to jar when the quality dips
And yeah the Dave era is definitely guilty of pacing issues at times, the abrupt ending to Officer Rimmer in particular being a standout where it just seems to end out of nowhere, feels like a half finished edit of the episode!