The Retail Apocalypse (Incorporating Casual Dining Closures)

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by Vermilion » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:41 pm

Drumstick wrote:I mean, can people not just assume that I'm wishing them well?


I'm afraid that's not how it works, they will most likely think you're being ignorant and impolite, especially if they've already sent you one.

It's the conclusion i've come to at times with people.

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by Drumstick » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:51 pm

OK. I'm pretty up front with the fact I don't like cards and would prefer to not receive one.

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by Tomous » Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:33 pm

Generic Christmas/Birthday cards with generic “hallmark” messages inside are abit pointless in my opinion but there’s definitely a place for things like sympathy or congratulation cards (weddings etc) with genuine personal messages inside.

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by Cumberdanes » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:14 am

Tomous wrote:Generic Christmas/Birthday cards with generic “hallmark” messages inside are abit pointless in my opinion but there’s definitely a place for things like sympathy or congratulation cards (weddings etc) with genuine personal messages inside.


Best personalised message I wrote in a card was for a former colleague who was leaving to start a new job. It read "Best wishes for the new job and give me my strawberry floating CDs back". For context I had loaned her her a bunch of CDs quite some time ago and had been asking for them back for weeks. Still didn't get them back which is largely why I
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by Gemini73 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:30 pm

HMV closing down multiple stores without warning

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror ... 209963.amp

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by Lagamorph » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:18 am

Gemini73 wrote:HMV closing down multiple stores without warning

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror ... 209963.amp

Amazed the Middlesbrough one isn't on that list. It's a huge space and never seems to have many people in it.

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by Venom » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:18 am

Gemini73 wrote:HMV closing down multiple stores without warning

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror ... 209963.amp



This was... inevitable. Long after the majority of the HMVs closed down a smaller store opened up in my area. It had games and blu-rays and high prices - but hardly any customers. It's now closed down. It's funny when I think back to how HMV stores were massive hubs of entertainment for youth and everyone. But digital and Amazon is changing retail in society. By the end of the decade I think it likely that there will be far less chain stores.

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by Lagamorph » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:21 am

Argos seem to be the only big retailer who seem to consistently do well and manage to head off these issues.
They embraced online quite early and offer same day delivery which virtually no other online retailer in the UK offers. It probably helps that their stores can also double as warehouses because of their general business model. They were also smart in cutting costs by putting some of their stores into Sainsbury's branches to save on the rent of space, with those stores just receiving twice daily deliveries of click and collect orders rather than trying to stock utterly everything.

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by floydfreak » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:25 am

I only recently found out the one in Reading had re-opened and was planning to pop in there.

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by Victor Mildew » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:52 am

Now where am I supposed to buy funko pops?! :x

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by Mafro » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:08 am

Lagamorph wrote:Argos seem to be the only big retailer who seem to consistently do well and manage to head off these issues.
They embraced online quite early and offer same day delivery which virtually no other online retailer in the UK offers. It probably helps that their stores can also double as warehouses because of their general business model. They were also smart in cutting costs by putting some of their stores into Sainsbury's branches to save on the rent of space, with those stores just receiving twice daily deliveries of click and collect orders rather than trying to stock utterly everything.

Argos should be a case study to all other high street retailers on how to adapt and change with the times.

I honestly thought HMV were already gone but I guess that was just their website. The last time I was in one everything was so overpriced.

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by Vermilion » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:51 am

Mafro wrote:I honestly thought HMV were already gone but I guess that was just their website.


The website is fully functional again, i use them for my pre-orders.

I suspect the reason for closing the Birmingham Bullring store though is because they've opened up a huge new store nearby called The Vault, i popped in there a little while back and it's pretty impressive.

Thankfully none of the other stores listed are outlets i generally use, that said though, i still miss the Oxford St flagship.

Victor Mistletoe wrote:Now where am I supposed to buy funko pops?! :x


You need to catch up, they stopped selling them when Sunrise bought the company. ;)

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by Squinty » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:24 am

I bought some books from HMV the other day. 2 for a fiver, got Dune and 2001 A Space Odyssey. The place barely has any buying customers. The prices are too much generally.

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by Vermilion » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:30 am

Squinty wrote:I bought some books from HMV the other day. 2 for a fiver, got Dune and 2001 A Space Odyssey. The place barely has any buying customers. The prices are too much generally.


I find them not too bad actually, Amazon only seems cheaper until you add on the cost of delivery.

I get my TV boxsets pretty cheap from them, and lately they've also had a clearance area full of cut price blu rays.

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by abcd » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:17 am

Lagamorph wrote:Argos seem to be the only big retailer who seem to consistently do well and manage to head off these issues.
They embraced online quite early and offer same day delivery which virtually no other online retailer in the UK offers. It probably helps that their stores can also double as warehouses because of their general business model. They were also smart in cutting costs by putting some of their stores into Sainsbury's branches to save on the rent of space, with those stores just receiving twice daily deliveries of click and collect orders rather than trying to stock utterly everything.


Argos has changed owners many times and it helps now that they're owned by Sainsbury's

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by KK » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:36 am

Argos has definitely done a good job of moving with the times. Only thing I don't like however is the lack of price parity with Sainsbury's, which as I noticed the other day can lead to the ridiculous scenario where you end up with the same product stocked twice at 2 different prices. That really shouldn't be happening. In smaller Sainsbury's they now have Argos checkouts (which are always busy to some degree), but in larger stores they have stuff on the shop floor with Argos, Tu and Habitat signage. If you're doing all this cross promotion (Tu clothes available at Argos, etc) then the prices must tally up at all stores. A customer should never, say, find that the Sainsbury's branded kettle they purchased in Sainsbury's is cheaper at the Argos counter.

It would appear aspects of the business are still being run as two separate entities.

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by Lex-Man » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:17 pm

KK wrote:Argos has definitely done a good job of moving with the times. Only thing I don't like however is the lack of price parity with Sainsbury's, which as I noticed the other day can lead to the ridiculous scenario where you end up with the same product stocked twice at 2 different prices. That really shouldn't be happening. In smaller Sainsbury's they now have Argos checkouts (which are always busy to some degree), but in larger stores they have stuff on the shop floor with Argos, Tu and Habitat signage. If you're doing all this cross promotion (Tu clothes available at Argos, etc) then the prices must tally up at all stores. A customer should never, say, find that the Sainsbury's branded kettle they purchased in Sainsbury's is cheaper at the Argos counter.

It would appear aspects of the business are still being run as two separate entities.


Although with the Argos stuff you often have to wait a day to get your product as now they've moved into Sainsburys they don't stock very much.

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by Winckle » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:00 pm

Lagamorph wrote:Argos seem to be the only big retailer who seem to consistently do well and manage to head off these issues.
They embraced online quite early and offer same day delivery which virtually no other online retailer in the UK offers. It probably helps that their stores can also double as warehouses because of their general business model. They were also smart in cutting costs by putting some of their stores into Sainsbury's branches to save on the rent of space, with those stores just receiving twice daily deliveries of click and collect orders rather than trying to stock utterly everything.

Absolutely. Argos do everything right when it comes to being a brick and mortar retailer.

For me, my pet peeve with such retailers is when they have an online presence but "price in store may vary" (it will vary, it will be higher).

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Squinty wrote:I bought some books from HMV the other day. 2 for a fiver, got Dune and 2001 A Space Odyssey. The place barely has any buying customers. The prices are too much generally.


I find them not too bad actually, Amazon only seems cheaper until you add on the cost of delivery.

Amazon Prime covers this handily, especially if you live in an area with same day delivery or even prime now.

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by Lagamorph » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:49 pm

Walking in a Winter Winckleland wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Argos seem to be the only big retailer who seem to consistently do well and manage to head off these issues.
They embraced online quite early and offer same day delivery which virtually no other online retailer in the UK offers. It probably helps that their stores can also double as warehouses because of their general business model. They were also smart in cutting costs by putting some of their stores into Sainsbury's branches to save on the rent of space, with those stores just receiving twice daily deliveries of click and collect orders rather than trying to stock utterly everything.

Absolutely. Argos do everything right when it comes to being a brick and mortar retailer.

For me, my pet peeve with such retailers is when they have an online presence but "price in store may vary" (it will vary, it will be higher).

Game in particular used to be awful for this. They'd have cheaper prices online than in store and refuse to match those prices if you're in the store. They offer an online reservation service now at the online price though, so it appears they've finally learned their lesson on that one.

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by Vermilion » Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:44 am

Walking in a Winter Winckleland wrote:
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Squinty wrote:I bought some books from HMV the other day. 2 for a fiver, got Dune and 2001 A Space Odyssey. The place barely has any buying customers. The prices are too much generally.


I find them not too bad actually, Amazon only seems cheaper until you add on the cost of delivery.

Amazon Prime covers this handily, especially if you live in an area with same day delivery or even prime now.


It's still an extra £79 a year though, so you still have to add that on to the basic cost.


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