The Retail Apocalypse (Incorporating Casual Dining Closures)

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by Tomous » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:55 pm

Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:Yeah the vast majority of my Christmas spending went to online retailers, with Amazon (sadly) being the biggest winner. That said Christmas is also one of the few times when I do actually spend a decent amount of money in real world shops.

It still seems just as busy as ever when you go into town during the Christmas season so there must be a hell of a lot of people just traipsing around for the "fun" and not actually spending any money! :dread:



> Browse the stores to get ideas for present
> Go home and order them for cheaper online

Yeah I imagine there is a lot of that. strawberry floating horrible way to spend your time though! :dread:

I actually feel bad when I'm in a bricks and mortar shop and I get my phone out for whatever reason - staff must just assume anyone doing that is checking the prices against an online retailer.



To be fair, there is zero chance that the minimum wage staff care even slightly.

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by Lagamorph » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:55 pm

Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:I actually feel bad when I'm in a bricks and mortar shop and I get my phone out for whatever reason - staff must just assume anyone doing that is checking the prices against an online retailer.

That's usually exactly what I'm doing.

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by Jenuall » Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:59 pm

Yeah the staff at most retailers probably don't give a gooseberry fool, they probably should though - especially if they are actually putting effort in to help inform the customers about possible purchases only to see them walk out the door to buy it elsewhere.

I only worked in retail for a very brief period nearly 20 years ago but it would have pissed me off no end if that was happening regularly.

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by Tomous » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:06 pm

M&S sales squeezed as men shun skinny trousers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51045282

:lol:

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by Winckle » Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:55 pm

Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:Yeah the vast majority of my Christmas spending went to online retailers, with Amazon (sadly) being the biggest winner. That said Christmas is also one of the few times when I do actually spend a decent amount of money in real world shops.

It still seems just as busy as ever when you go into town during the Christmas season so there must be a hell of a lot of people just traipsing around for the "fun" and not actually spending any money! :dread:



> Browse the stores to get ideas for present
> Go home and order them for cheaper online

Yeah I imagine there is a lot of that. strawberry floating horrible way to spend your time though! :dread:

I actually feel bad when I'm in a bricks and mortar shop and I get my phone out for whatever reason - staff must just assume anyone doing that is checking the prices against an online retailer.

I know I am when I scan the barcode with my phone camera. :slol:
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Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:The high street is now only for bookies, kebab takeaways, vape shops, Poundland and Greggs.



Surely bookies must be on the way out too with online gambling being so easy

Yeah I thought this, but then I remembered that when you open an account with an online bookies they do all sorts of checks on you. People unable to pass these checks probably bet with cash in bookies.

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by Mafro » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:00 pm

Walking in a Winter Winckleland wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:Yeah the vast majority of my Christmas spending went to online retailers, with Amazon (sadly) being the biggest winner. That said Christmas is also one of the few times when I do actually spend a decent amount of money in real world shops.

It still seems just as busy as ever when you go into town during the Christmas season so there must be a hell of a lot of people just traipsing around for the "fun" and not actually spending any money! :dread:



> Browse the stores to get ideas for present
> Go home and order them for cheaper online

Yeah I imagine there is a lot of that. strawberry floating horrible way to spend your time though! :dread:

I actually feel bad when I'm in a bricks and mortar shop and I get my phone out for whatever reason - staff must just assume anyone doing that is checking the prices against an online retailer.

I know I am when I scan the barcode with my phone camera. :slol:
Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:The high street is now only for bookies, kebab takeaways, vape shops, Poundland and Greggs.



Surely bookies must be on the way out too with online gambling being so easy

Yeah I thought this, but then I remembered that when you open an account with an online bookies they do all sorts of checks on you. People unable to pass these checks probably bet with cash in bookies.

This plus it's somewhere for people to socialise as well. I always see the same folk in the ones near my when walking past.

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by Lex-Man » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:03 pm

Walking in a Winter Winckleland wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:Yeah the vast majority of my Christmas spending went to online retailers, with Amazon (sadly) being the biggest winner. That said Christmas is also one of the few times when I do actually spend a decent amount of money in real world shops.

It still seems just as busy as ever when you go into town during the Christmas season so there must be a hell of a lot of people just traipsing around for the "fun" and not actually spending any money! :dread:



> Browse the stores to get ideas for present
> Go home and order them for cheaper online

Yeah I imagine there is a lot of that. strawberry floating horrible way to spend your time though! :dread:

I actually feel bad when I'm in a bricks and mortar shop and I get my phone out for whatever reason - staff must just assume anyone doing that is checking the prices against an online retailer.

I know I am when I scan the barcode with my phone camera. :slol:
Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:The high street is now only for bookies, kebab takeaways, vape shops, Poundland and Greggs.



Surely bookies must be on the way out too with online gambling being so easy

Yeah I thought this, but then I remembered that when you open an account with an online bookies they do all sorts of checks on you. People unable to pass these checks probably bet with cash in bookies.


I thought a lot of bookies made most of their money through those fixed odds terminals. Also people at my work will go and place bets at lunch time.

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by Tomous » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:15 pm

The "can't get an account crowd" and social aspect to it makes sense I guess, I'm still surprised that's profitable enough to run a high street shop though.

I guess the majority are rubbish gamblers :lol:

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by OrangeRKN » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:17 pm

My dad got a christmas card from the local bookies. Online can't compete with that kind of addiction

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by Vermilion » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:34 pm

Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:M&S sales squeezed as men shun skinny trousers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51045282

:lol:


I found this the last time i went to buy trousers from them, all skinny fit, very few normal ones, and the only normal pairs they did have were blue (who the hell wears blue trousers which aren't jeans?).

Ended up getting a pair from Next instead.

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by Moggy » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:39 pm

Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:The "can't get an account crowd" and social aspect to it makes sense I guess, I'm still surprised that's profitable enough to run a high street shop though.

I guess the majority are rubbish gamblers :lol:


These were keeping them afloat: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_o ... g_terminal

But bookies are starting to close now that restrictions are in place.

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by Preezy » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:51 pm

Good riddance to the lot of them.

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by Moggy » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:09 am

It's a local independent but Bristol Ticket Shop has closed.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bris ... ut-3723371

Which sucks for me as I was given £25 worth of vouchers for that shop as a Christmas present. :x

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by Vermilion » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:14 am

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/09/game-clo ... -12032701/

Just the other day i found that the store in Bath had gone. :(

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by Chocolate-Milk » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:22 am

The challenge is finding someone stupid enough to pay £45 for a pre-owned game.

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by Gemini73 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:49 pm

Apart from the Asda food shop I did all my Christmas shopping online. Far less hassle

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by Jenuall » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:51 pm

I'd say about 75% of my Christmas shopping was online this year - and that included the food shop.

I still find I need to do a trawl of the shops to get a few ideas and pick up some stuff that I just can never seem to find online.

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by Green Gecko » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:55 pm

I should point out that all this isn't necessarily terrible for new businesses though. The risk involved in a brick and mortar shop is honestly virtual business suicide, money is staying in businesses longer due to lack of dependency on business rates and sky high rents, which means more investment in the product. Lower cost to market means more risks can be taken. Online marketplaces mean it's possible to trade and test trade without massive upfront risk, a process that would traditionally take a huge amount of complicated paperwork and hard selling to bigwigs. The market for small local events has blossomed because people need more temporary physical presence to meet and greet with customers which has supported independent sellers.

It's crushing the logistics industry though and massively over saturating the marketplace, splitting profits thin and confusing and overwhelming customers, so they tend to stick to just a few places to shop.

Given the choice though, I'd probably choose the current climate, because there are millions of customers to reach with minimal cost and it's more sympathetic to people who need flexible work patterns or have disabilities.

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by Vermilion » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:21 pm

Gemini73 wrote:Apart from the Asda food shop I did all my Christmas shopping online. Far less hassle


I did all mine in actual stores, I find doing so much more enjoyable.

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by Cumberdanes » Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:42 pm

I tend to do my grocery shopping in an actual store. I do order online occasionally but find I often end up with a lot of substitutions and items with a short shelf life, Sainsbury's are particularly bad for that.

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