The Running Thread

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by BTB » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:18 am

Also had some achilles pain after recent runs, which has put me off running again until it is all fine. It is mostly a bit stiff in the morning (oi oi), when I usually would go for a run, but better later in the day. I'll look at some of the stretches mentioned above to help though!

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by BTB » Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:28 pm

BTB wrote:Also had some achilles pain after recent runs, which has put me off running again until it is all fine. It is mostly a bit stiff in the morning (oi oi), when I usually would go for a run, but better later in the day. I'll look at some of the stretches mentioned above to help though!

First run in two weeks as I felt my achilles was all sorted. Nope, my right achilles is back to aching. Gah!

I'll be a bit more strict on my stretches this time and luckily gyms are open again so at least I have other forms of exercise as in lockdown running was essentially my go to option.

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by That's not a growth » Tue May 11, 2021 11:21 am

Wasn't sure where to put this, but I guess it was caused by running so might as well go here.

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One of my toe nails is about to fall off, and it's due to my shoe rubbing. It's my second toe, on my right foot. The toe is a little longer than my big toe, which is maybe part of the reason. I'm also running a lot more than I have in the past, and got new shoes at Christmas.

The shoes feel fine when running, but occasionally my toe would hurt the day after a run a couple of months ago. Almost felt like I broke a bone, like there was something lose and sharp under the skin occasionally.

Then the nail went black, but started to feel better so I figured it was getting better. But this weekend, more than a month later, I had a bath and when drying my feet I noticed that the nail almost peeled off, just hinging on the right side.

I was hoping I could put it back in place and it would heal, but it got caught on my sock this morning while getting dressed.

I'm thinking I'll have to take it off, but worried this might be a bad idea. It doesn't hurt at least


In better news I did a trail run on Sat and did my best ever placing - in the top 9%, out of almost 300 people on a 11.5k. Really, really happy with this - as it was hammering it down so I needed to be quite careful at times. My previous best was top 11%, but that was rare and most of my placings over the years have been in the 20-40% range. My fitness is the best it's ever been, and I feel I'm on track for a few personal goals I've got planned for certain distances.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by Victor Mildew » Tue May 11, 2021 11:37 am

I've had a nail come off for the same reason. Didn't tie my laces up tight enough on a new pair of trainers and my feet were slipping forward enough to wiggle a nail for an hour. It went black after a few weeks and came off completely. It grew back properly though.

I'm back on my decent (as in pretty) run route again now it's light. Very up and down throughout so impossible to get any pace put of it, but great for weight loss.

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by That's not a growth » Tue May 11, 2021 11:41 am

Glad to hear it came back ok, that's reassuring!

I find the up and downs help make me quicker for flats, but they're horrible to actually do at the time. It's also really motivating when I do a race and overtake a load of people on a hill, as I've clearly practiced them more - almost makes it worth while. Almost.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue May 11, 2021 11:48 am

It's my favourite route, but pretty isolated so not really safe to be using when it's pitch black at 6am. I had to switch to a half flat half steep route while that was unavailable and it was so gooseberry fool, really bad for stamina. This one is much better as it's very varied, almost spaced like intervals so you may be slow for most of it, but it's amazing for uphill stamina.

Well done on the top 9%. There's o way I could do anything competitive, I'd feel like gooseberry fool for not doing well.

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by That's not a growth » Tue May 11, 2021 4:21 pm

Most of the time I'm able to concentrate on just beating my own times, rather than worrying about other people. I did a 5k a couple of years ago and that was very humbling, turns out 5k is the domain of very quick children. They just sprint from the off and don't let up. At least on the longer distances age seems to have it's advantages.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by SillySprout » Tue May 11, 2021 9:08 pm

Set myself a goal of 100km this month. I haven't run for over six months, and have never maintained running over a prolonged period of time like this, so this is a challenge, but for the first time, I've got to the point that I am enjoying my runs, which is something I've never really experienced before. It turns out that a daily target is the thing to motivate me. I set out for a 3k run today and ended up running to 5k, nearly setting a PB in the process and getting myself slightly ahead of my target for this point in the month. I look forward to seeing my times come down further, though I doubt I'll get anywhere near the times I've seen in this thread. :slol:

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by satriales » Tue May 11, 2021 9:55 pm

That's not a growth wrote:Wasn't sure where to put this, but I guess it was caused by running so might as well go here.

Spoilered for gross

One of my toe nails is about to fall off, and it's due to my shoe rubbing. It's my second toe, on my right foot. The toe is a little longer than my big toe, which is maybe part of the reason. I'm also running a lot more than I have in the past, and got new shoes at Christmas.

The shoes feel fine when running, but occasionally my toe would hurt the day after a run a couple of months ago. Almost felt like I broke a bone, like there was something lose and sharp under the skin occasionally.

Then the nail went black, but started to feel better so I figured it was getting better. But this weekend, more than a month later, I had a bath and when drying my feet I noticed that the nail almost peeled off, just hinging on the right side.

I was hoping I could put it back in place and it would heal, but it got caught on my sock this morning while getting dressed.

I'm thinking I'll have to take it off, but worried this might be a bad idea. It doesn't hurt at least



I've lost a few toenails. Last July I lost the nail on one of my big toes after repeatedly tripping on rocks during an ultra. It turned black and peeled off over the following weeks and I wasn't sure it would ever be normal again, but after almost a year later it has finally grown back to normal.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by satriales » Thu May 13, 2021 9:28 am

10 years ago satriales wrote:RE: GUCR. I'd love to try that sometime, but at the momemt I can only do 2 or 3 miles before i'm shattered. Admittedly it is all hills but I need to work on my stamina a tiny bit before I have any chance of doing 140+ miles.


Just been reading back through this thread and noticed that it was ten years ago when I saw Avon post about finishing GUCR. I hadn't heard of the race before then, so that created the initial spark that led to me eventually running a few ultras and in two weeks time I will actually be attempting the 145-mile GUCR myself. :toot:

Feeling slightly undertrained but at the same time better prepared than any of my other races. I started to get a few niggles in the last couple of weeks and so I have eased back on training and focussed on staying injury-free. Recently I noticed that almost all of my shoes have developed holes at the same time, so I need to take a gamble on a couple of new pairs and hopefully can wear them in a bit beforehand. Feeling nervous but excited.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by That's not a growth » Thu May 13, 2021 10:15 am

What's your training volume need to be to do that much? I would imagine it pretty much takes over your free time?

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by satriales » Thu May 13, 2021 5:20 pm

That's not a growth wrote:What's your training volume need to be to do that much? I would imagine it pretty much takes over your free time?

I don't do nearly as much as I should but generally I'm running 40-50 miles a week at peak. That usually involves a 20-25 miles run at the weekend and then 3-4 shorter runs during the week. Most people running this race are probably doing 70+ miles a week.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by Avon » Sun May 23, 2021 7:12 pm

satriales wrote:
10 years ago satriales wrote:RE: GUCR. I'd love to try that sometime, but at the momemt I can only do 2 or 3 miles before i'm shattered. Admittedly it is all hills but I need to work on my stamina a tiny bit before I have any chance of doing 140+ miles.


Just been reading back through this thread and noticed that it was ten years ago when I saw Avon post about finishing GUCR. I hadn't heard of the race before then, so that created the initial spark that led to me eventually running a few ultras and in two weeks time I will actually be attempting the 145-mile GUCR myself. :toot:

Feeling slightly undertrained but at the same time better prepared than any of my other races. I started to get a few niggles in the last couple of weeks and so I have eased back on training and focussed on staying injury-free. Recently I noticed that almost all of my shoes have developed holes at the same time, so I need to take a gamble on a couple of new pairs and hopefully can wear them in a bit beforehand. Feeling nervous but excited.


;) ;) ;) Hope you’re ready! I’m about a stone over fighting weight, having regular chiropractic sessions on my old knees, still not sure if the motivation is there, got 40 hours of podcasts on my iPod ready...and back into the groove of sandbagging before a race. See you on the start line.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by Rubix » Mon May 24, 2021 8:10 am

Back running after having 5 weeks off from injury. The time to heal has also helped other niggles and pains and back to running quite quickly which is nice.

Bored of Virtual runs now, need parkrun and races back with actual people.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by Curls » Wed May 26, 2021 7:25 pm

I broke my Ankle 5 weeks ago.

Fibia. I should be out of my boot next friday 4th June.

Anyone had a similar injury? Obviously it'll be a fairly slow recovery, but I'd like to run a half marathon in November and a Marathon in February. How long do you think the recovery will take to get to something like 5k? I'll do what the physio tells me ofc.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by That's not a growth » Wed May 26, 2021 7:45 pm

I went over on my ankle really badly 2 and half ago years and it took ages to get sorted. It took me 2 months before I could start to run again, 2 months after that until I could run a 10k but my ankle would hurt for a day or so after each run. It took around 9 months until I could run without pain.

I swam quite a lot during that time, which I think helped a lot.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by Curls » Wed May 26, 2021 7:51 pm

Ahhh, I'm very lucky in that regard then. I have a warm Mediterranean to swim in this summer!

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by Victor Mildew » Thu May 27, 2021 7:46 am

Beautiful out this morning. Times are still terrible, but it's far more enjoyable.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by Rubix » Thu May 27, 2021 7:50 am

My left knee has started to hurt yesterday which I don't know how or why as I normally get pains on the right one. I want to do two Halves in the coming weeks not for time as they will be over cliff tops so hope it eases.

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PostRe: The Running Thread
by satriales » Sun May 30, 2021 11:01 am

My GUCR attempt ended in a DNF.

The week leading into it was super stressful - I was doing job interviews, and my 6-month old puppy got hit by a car which meant I almost had to cancel the race so I could be at home with him, but thankfully surgery on his leg went well and he was allowed home on the Friday. I changed my plans last minute and got a train to Birmingham on the Friday. I hadn't slept for more than 4 hours a night all week!

I got to registration early, had a burger at O'Neils, scoped out the fastest route to the start from the Holiday Inn across the canal, then went back to the hotel and sorted out my bags. I was all set, I just need to get up at 5:15 and head out the door...

... I woke up at 1:30am and couldn't get back to sleep :x

The race itself is very well organised and as a new runner it felt like they were my personal crew looking after me. I can see the appeal of going back year after year.

Before the start I had a quick scout of the field to see if I recognised anyone. Tried to keep an eye out for Avon but he couldn't be seen. I thought I started from the back but then I looked behind and realised I was probably closer to the front. The first few miles out of Birmingham were slower than expected. All of the awkward cobbled paving and short pitch black tunnels do slow you down a little. Once we start seeing trees I settle into a 10 minute mile pace and am happy with my choice of road shoes. All feels good.

I can't remember if it was before or after CP1 but out of nowhere there some unavoidable puddles. My feet got soaking wet and so I planned to swap socks at CP2. A few miles before CP2 I could feel I was getting blisters and by this point a hip niggle I had in training had returned. Once at Hatton Locks I bought an ice cream from the little cafe and jogged into CP2. I sorted out my drinks, grabbed a prepacked bag of snacks out of my drop bag, and then headed back out. Oops I'd forgotten to sort my feet out!

At about 30 miles the blisters were becoming unbearable. I never get blisters so I'm pretty sure it was the wet feet that did it. I stopped a couple of times before CP3 to apply plasters and do my best at fixing my feet but it didn't help much. I knew already at this point that my hip wasn't going to let me do another 110+ miles and a finish was unlikely. Finally I reach CP3 and make a better job of fixing my feet but not that good as it continues to bother me for rest of the race.

After leaving CP3 I realise I forgot to apply sun cream. I had taken it out of my drop bag but forgotten to use it. The sun was blaring and there was little shade. I could feel I was already burning. Luckily I passed another runner's crew a few miles later and they gave me some sun cream. One disaster averted, gave me a five minute boost in motivation but my hip just wasn't letting me run well. I'm at about 40 miles at this point and I'm feeling much worse than usual at this distance. The tiredness is also kicking in already. Over the next hour I am just walking and considering whether to quit now or get to CP4 and quit. I know that I won't be able to stay awake during the night section and I can't really get a lift home in the night as my partner would need to find someone to keep an eye on the puppy that has a broken leg. So I didn't want to quit in the night and I knew I wasn't going to be able to run through the night. I made the phone call to race hq and called it a day at about 45 miles.

Not actually too disappointed. I felt I paced the start well and stuck to my plan. Things went wrong but I don't feel like it was anything I could have done differently. It just wasn't going to happen today. Huge respect for Avon for finishing eight times without a DNF. It's not as easy as he makes it seem!


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