The Star Trek Thread
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by Monkey Man » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:39 pm
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by Moggy » Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:30 pm
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by Moggy » Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:52 pm
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by Cheeky Devlin » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:32 pm
Moggy wrote:As part of my "clear out of new Trek reviews", I am going to put all of my Prodigy reviews in here. I'm going to put it all in a spoiler box (I can't be arsed posting 5 or so per day), but they are here if anybody wants to read them.Lost and Found: Part 1
All I know about this is it's an animated kids show. And I think Janeway is in it?
A Kazon? Where is this set?
Feels very Star Wars Rebels so far. I half expected the main kid to suddenly use the force. The aliens, the droids, the robot that looks like General Grievous, the emperor (Denethor ) looking big bad and the animation style all felt more Wars than Trek.
But I liked it. A strong opening episode that introduced the characters well. I guess the series/season is going to be a search for fugitive 0.
Lost and Found: Part 2
Ok, the show isn't a search for fugitive zero.
The engineer's visor makes me think he's Bebop.
Ahhh so Janeway is a hologram. I'm still not sure where this is set, but it's clearly some time after Voyager.
Another good one, I'm feeling less like Darth Vader is going to show up and am enjoying it on its own merits.
Starstruck
I know he has no experience, but Dal is just to stupid here. I get wanting to do things by yourself, but come on!
Janeway is awesome as ever, even in hologram form.
If the main bad guy can track a warp signature and has a ship capable of catching them, why does he need this particular ship?
Dream Catcher
I swear Voyager would have got home in 2 seasons if they didn't stop at every world they came to. Looks like they're going to follow those rules here as well.
Dal really isn't mature enough to be a leader. Either he is going to do a lot of growing up in the next few episodes, or Gwyn is going to join the crew and take over command. I can see her turning on her dad when they next meet.
Terror Firma
Murder planet is a very good name for it.
I'm glad they are not going to spend too long on "will Gwynn join them or not?". Her "father" (I'm not convinced he's her actual dad) was such a bastard, choosing the ship over her.
A protostar engine, I guess the clue was there in the name! And makes sense why the Diviner wants it so badly.
So far this series has been great and this episode was no different.
Kobayashi
Near the start of this episode, was that the addictive game from TNG?
The Diviner was looking for the Protostar over 17 years ago. This series must be set quite some time after Voyager.
All the crew from older series Nice they all got a "in memory of" at the end, but they should edit in Nichelle Nichols name.
The Kobayashi Maru is infuriating, I genuinely thought he was going to win
Interesting ending with Chakotay. Did the silly bastard get stranded in the delta quadrant again? I'm guessing the Diviner will end up being somebody from the Federation, a mutineer maybe?
First Con-tact
Not a dreadful episode, but probably the worst so far in this series. After all the hard work with Quark, Rom and Nog of making the Ferengi more rounded characters, the one here was just the annoying old style irredeemable Ferengi.
Some interesting backstory though on what happened to the Protostar.
Time Amok
I liked this but imagine it was pretty complicated for the target age range for this show!
While she is an idiot a lot of the time (getting rid of Janeway ), I felt so sorry for Rok when she ended up alone.
I'm sure it will change, but it doesn't feel like Dal has it in him to be a decent leader or work as part of a team.
A Moral Star - Part 1
That was really good.
I completely bought that the plan had strawberry floated up. And the weird "Murf can eat anything" joke actually had a point!
Evil Janeway.
Nicely done first part, hopefully part 2 will give some answers on who the Diviner is.
A Moral Star - Part 2
This is perfect timing as I understand this is the mid-season finale. And as I'm watching it on Christmas Eve, it'll probably be a few days until I can watch the rest of the series. The last episode of S1 hasn't been released yet, so I can afford a Christmas break.
I hate mid-season breaks (even though this one doesn't matter to me!) but this was a good place to start the break. Some questions answered, some questions left for later.
I didn't expect to see the real Janeway! She doesn't look much older than the Janeway at the end of Voyager, but this series must be set around 20 years after it? Maybe it's hard to tell with the animation style, or maybe there's something going on there.
It was very convenient that Gwynn lost her memory that the ship is booby trapped to harm Starfleet. And I don't think it'll be the last we see of the Diviner.
I think Cheeky Devlin was worried I'd hate this show (as I hated Lower Decks), but there's no fear of that. It's been a really good show.
Asylum
It never fails to amuse me the way they keep saying "we stole it!"
Some good backstory here on Chakotay taking the ship to the Delta Quadrant. But if it has been 20 years, then Janeway has aged really well. The Diviner was a time traveler, so maybe there's time shenanigans going on.
Getting to the Federation outpost was fun. I wonder what Starfleet command want with people of Dal's species?
It was groanworthy how Gwynn conveniently getting her memory back just as the virus ripped the outpost apart. But that's standard story telling, especially in kids shows.
Let Sleeping Borg Lie
I don't know what age range this show is pitched at, but this would have been a terrifying episode for young kids.
Ultimately it was a pointless episode. They didn't actually learn anything from the Borg, other than getting a name for the weapon.
One thought I had, why don't they get the slug thing to eat the weapon? It can handle the protostar, why not the weapon?
But pointless doesn't mean bad. As a kids version of a Borg story, I think it worked quite well. But I wouldn't show this story to a young kid.
All The World's A Stage
Those Kirk, Sulu and Scotty impressions. strawberry float me
Cracking episode, the misquoted TOS stuff was wonderfully done and absolutely hilarious.
Looks like Murf is about to change. Hopefully Murf doesn't end up turning into an intelligent being or some gooseberry fool like that.
Crossroads
I found this episode to be too frustrating to be enjoyable. It relied way too much on chance meetings, the wrong things being said and the correct things to say not being said for stupid reasons.
But the ending was decent. The Protostar going into the neutral zone should be a good story. And Jankom is right, it's a bloody neutral zone, why can't the Federation go in there, the Romulans seem to be allowed to.
Masquerade
Another Soong mentioned? There are more Brent Spiner lookalikes in the Trek universe than floating balls of sentient energy
I guess Murf is going to be the deus ex machina in a lot of episodes now? "Oh no there's no hope....wait...Murf just turned into a warp drive!"
Ok episode, but nothing special. It did have a very interesting ending though. I hope that leads to something good.
Preludes
This is the sort of thing I usually hate. Flashbacks to how the characters ended up where they did. It's usually dreadful.
But this was actually very good. Some tragic backstories with amusing bits thrown in.
And it explained the weirdness with what's going on with Chakotay, who clearly hadn't been missing for 20 years. Wormhole time travel!
Decent ending as well. I think Janeway can kick the Diviner's arse, when the sneaky strawberry floater isn't creeping up and attacking from behind. And I look forward to seeing him get beaten. Hopefully permanently!
Ghost in the Machine
A bit of a poor episode. The "holodeck goes wrong" has been done way too many times before. As has "android/hologram goes wrong". Combining the two didn't really improve it.
Not appallingly bad, just meh.
Mindwalk
The salamander line
The body swap stuff was decent on the Janeway side, she straight away got down to business and got the required information. Dal though He not only completely wasted the opportunity to inform Starfleet of the construct (despite just before saying about other ways of communicating), he made things a million times worse.
I'm not sure why the Diviner freed "Janeway", guilt over his daughter? His whole plan is bloody stupid, he must realise by now that the Federation aren't bad people. Why destroy them rather than just talking to them and explaining the chaos they'll unleash if they ever contact his home planet?
Ok episode, too many little annoyances (all Dal!) to be a good episode though.
Supernova: Part 1
I'm writing this on 27 December 2022, 2 days before the season finale episode airs. Which means this episode marks the momentous occasion that I have caught up with ALL of Star Trek! Except those two episodes of Short Treks
Going to hold most of my thoughts until I've seen part 2. But I really enjoyed this. I'm not sure how they are going to resolve it either, if the virus is now in that many Starfleet vessels, their only option is to destroy them all? But if more keep arriving...
I'm sure they'll come up with some mumbo jumbo to "fix" it - maybe hack the weapon to emit a signal that undoes the virus?
Supernova: Part 2
I'm not sure that the solution made any real sense and I preferred my solution , but it didn't really matter. Holo-Janeway's sacrifice was very well done and is more proof that at least some of these holograms are alive.
"Was he enhanced in every way? Of course not, look at him " Harsh
Zero's upgrade
A bit of a reset button at the end, convenient that they have a new protostar powered ship.
I assume season 2 will be called Star Trek: The Search For Chakotay.
A great series, a damn shame they have cancelled it.
PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Moggy » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:07 am
Cheeky Devlin wrote:Oh and you should really move onto The Orville when you get a chance. It's a proper love letter to TNG and is legitimately good in its own right.
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by SEP » Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:17 am
Moggy wrote:Cheeky Devlin wrote:Oh and you should really move onto The Orville when you get a chance. It's a proper love letter to TNG and is legitimately good in its own right.
I've heard it's good, but Seth MacFarlane puts me off. I liked the first Ted movie, but I've hated everything else he's done. I assume the Orville is more TNG than Family Guy though?
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by Cheeky Devlin » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:29 pm
SEP wrote:Moggy wrote:Cheeky Devlin wrote:Oh and you should really move onto The Orville when you get a chance. It's a proper love letter to TNG and is legitimately good in its own right.
I've heard it's good, but Seth MacFarlane puts me off. I liked the first Ted movie, but I've hated everything else he's done. I assume the Orville is more TNG than Family Guy though?
The Orville is excellent, and not even remotely like Family Guy. It's like a slightly more relaxed TNG.
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by Cheeky Devlin » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:30 pm
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by Qikz » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:49 pm
The Watching Artist wrote:I feel so inept next to Qikz...
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by Cheeky Devlin » Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:15 pm
Qikz wrote:
I got a friend suggestion from I can only assume a Klingon
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by Qikz » Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:14 am
Cheeky Devlin wrote:Qikz wrote:
I got a friend suggestion from I can only assume a Klingon
Careful you don't accept.
You don't want to be obligated to help in violent conflict between the great houses by pledging friendship to the House of Mok'Nathal.
You may be honour bound to assist. Unless you are a filthy P'tak in which case knock yourself out.
EDIT: Forgot I changed away from Gowron as my avatar.
The Watching Artist wrote:I feel so inept next to Qikz...
PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Cheeky Devlin » Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:02 pm
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by Moggy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:17 pm
Cheeky Devlin wrote:https://intl.startrek.com/videos/star-trek-prodigy-season-2-first-look
Still no word on where this is going to be shown, but it already looks great.
The Doctor! Voyager A!
Looking forward to where they are going with this. I assume the Protostar will be back later in the season.
I'm hoping that the "cancellation" of the show is enough to get more people watching it. Prodigy needs a permanent home.
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by Cheeky Devlin » Mon Aug 07, 2023 3:31 pm
Moggy wrote:Cheeky Devlin wrote:https://intl.startrek.com/videos/star-trek-prodigy-season-2-first-look
Still no word on where this is going to be shown, but it already looks great.
The Doctor! Voyager A!
Looking forward to where they are going with this. I assume the Protostar will be back later in the season.
I'm hoping that the "cancellation" of the show is enough to get more people watching it. Prodigy needs a permanent home.
I didn't know it had been saved. Good news, it's the only decent animated Trek.
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by Qikz » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:32 pm
Cheeky Devlin wrote:Moggy wrote:Cheeky Devlin wrote:https://intl.startrek.com/videos/star-trek-prodigy-season-2-first-look
Still no word on where this is going to be shown, but it already looks great.
The Doctor! Voyager A!
Looking forward to where they are going with this. I assume the Protostar will be back later in the season.
I'm hoping that the "cancellation" of the show is enough to get more people watching it. Prodigy needs a permanent home.
I didn't know it had been saved. Good news, it's the only decent animated Trek.
Not saved, Paramount+ aren't going to be putting it out so they're shopping it around. No one is confirmed to have picked up season 2 yet, but if it doesn't do well when it does arrive I can see it being permanently shut down.
The Watching Artist wrote:I feel so inept next to Qikz...
PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by FatDaz » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:36 pm
Cheeky Devlin wrote:
It's TNG with an enhanced sense of humour, but it doesn't overwhelm the show or get in the way of telling some great stories.
First two seasons are both great, but season three is a legitimately one of the best Sci-Fi shows I've ever watched. It's great.
PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Cheeky Devlin » Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:42 pm
FatDaz wrote:Cheeky Devlin wrote:
It's TNG with an enhanced sense of humour, but it doesn't overwhelm the show or get in the way of telling some great stories.
First two seasons are both great, but season three is a legitimately one of the best Sci-Fi shows I've ever watched. It's great.
It’s clear the studio only greenlit it based on family guy and the humour but it’s obvious Seth wanted to make a serious Star Trek show and as time goes on the silliness is toned down and by series 3 it feels like a sci fi show different in tone to the first.
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