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Peter Crisp wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Wouldn't have worked for syndication, which was how Star Trek was made back then.

I'm glad we now have series that can have series or multi series overall stories now.
It's hard to go back to stories of the week with very little character development.

Lagamorph wrote:Garrett Wang was one of People Magazine's "50 Most Beautiful People"

Corazon de Leon wrote:Also, it ruined the show a little for me to find out that Janeway and Seven of Nine hated each other IRL.

Peter Crisp wrote:

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Wouldn't have worked for syndication, which was how Star Trek was made back then.

I'm glad we now have series that can have series or multi series overall stories now.
It's hard to go back to stories of the week with very little character development.

Hexx wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:Garrett Wang was one of People Magazine's "50 Most Beautiful People"

Corazon de Leon wrote:Also, it ruined the show a little for me to find out that Janeway and Seven of Nine hated each other IRL.

I thought that was more Mulgrew not liking the show (with a strong female Captain etc) suddenly bringing onboard Tits McGee, and then it calmed down later when they dressed Seven properly rather than like a blow up doll and the stories were good?

Corazon de Leon wrote:

Hexx wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:Garrett Wang was one of People Magazine's "50 Most Beautiful People"

Corazon de Leon wrote:Also, it ruined the show a little for me to find out that Janeway and Seven of Nine hated each other IRL.

I thought that was more Mulgrew not liking the show (with a strong female Captain etc) suddenly bringing onboard Tits McGee, and then it calmed down later when they dressed Seven properly rather than like a blow up doll and the stories were good?

Apparently they genuinely didn't get on - Mulgrew would act the arse during scenes between the two right up until the end of the show. I don't imagine things were helped when Ryan started seeing one of the producers either.

Jenuall wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Jenuall wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:

Jenuall wrote:Yeah they tried to have their cake and eat it. Either you commit to having resource scarcity and lasting consequences to every encounter or you don't!

My TNG re-watch continues apace - watched episodes 3-5 of season 3 last night. Definitely a more consistent batch so far, certainly no true clunkers yet anyway! Much space high jinks have continued, Troi has suffered from that awful affliction which gets us all from time to time - the dreaded earworm, "The Picard" has been deified by a race of primitives after the bloke out of Twin Peaks got a look at him, and Worf effectively adopts a teenage kid who I'm sure we'll never hear of again!

Also relating to the earlier discussion of somewhat "odd" endings to episodes "The Survivors" was a bit of a strange one. A powerful alien entity basically admits to the genocide of an entire species having essentially vaporised all 50 billion of them instantly, and Picard is just like "strawberry float it, we'll call it quits. You can just hang out on this planet with your imaginary wife"

Now obviously this being was way too powerful for the crew to have actually been able to do anything but they could have at least acted like they gave a gooseberry fool!

Is that the one where it’s just a guy living in a log cabin for most of the episode With his wife and then he’s like “uh yeah, I really strawberry floated this one guys, accidentally killed an entire system full of people but it’s ok because I’m old and living in exile” and the whole crew basically just laughs it off and leaves? The log cabin and wife were illusions or some space-shit?

Pretty much!

They find this guy and his wife as the only survivors on a planet that has otherwise been totally decimated, dude tries to claim he's a pacifist and when the aliens came to destroy the planet he just ignored it. Turns out that he is some all powerful being and when his wife was killed in the attack he uses his power to wipe out the entire species of aliens that attacked the planet, then he recreates his wife and carries on as normal.

Picard is like "that's messed up but what the hell we'll leave you to it!"

What exactly were the Federation supposed to do to a being who can just think entire civilisations out of existence? You may as well expect them to try and imprison Q.

Oh I know - I said as much above, but it's the lack of any real attempt to condemn the being that irks!

"We are not qualified to be your judge" .... uh you what Jean Luc?! You may not be able to do something about it but you are more than qualified to tell him it's strawberry floating wrong and at least attempt to engage with the problem!

Cuttooth wrote:

Jenuall wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Jenuall wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:

Jenuall wrote:Yeah they tried to have their cake and eat it. Either you commit to having resource scarcity and lasting consequences to every encounter or you don't!

My TNG re-watch continues apace - watched episodes 3-5 of season 3 last night. Definitely a more consistent batch so far, certainly no true clunkers yet anyway! Much space high jinks have continued, Troi has suffered from that awful affliction which gets us all from time to time - the dreaded earworm, "The Picard" has been deified by a race of primitives after the bloke out of Twin Peaks got a look at him, and Worf effectively adopts a teenage kid who I'm sure we'll never hear of again!

Also relating to the earlier discussion of somewhat "odd" endings to episodes "The Survivors" was a bit of a strange one. A powerful alien entity basically admits to the genocide of an entire species having essentially vaporised all 50 billion of them instantly, and Picard is just like "strawberry float it, we'll call it quits. You can just hang out on this planet with your imaginary wife"

Now obviously this being was way too powerful for the crew to have actually been able to do anything but they could have at least acted like they gave a gooseberry fool!

Is that the one where it’s just a guy living in a log cabin for most of the episode With his wife and then he’s like “uh yeah, I really strawberry floated this one guys, accidentally killed an entire system full of people but it’s ok because I’m old and living in exile” and the whole crew basically just laughs it off and leaves? The log cabin and wife were illusions or some space-shit?

Pretty much!

They find this guy and his wife as the only survivors on a planet that has otherwise been totally decimated, dude tries to claim he's a pacifist and when the aliens came to destroy the planet he just ignored it. Turns out that he is some all powerful being and when his wife was killed in the attack he uses his power to wipe out the entire species of aliens that attacked the planet, then he recreates his wife and carries on as normal.

Picard is like "that's messed up but what the hell we'll leave you to it!"

What exactly were the Federation supposed to do to a being who can just think entire civilisations out of existence? You may as well expect them to try and imprison Q.

Oh I know - I said as much above, but it's the lack of any real attempt to condemn the being that irks!

"We are not qualified to be your judge" .... uh you what Jean Luc?! You may not be able to do something about it but you are more than qualified to tell him it's strawberry floating wrong and at least attempt to engage with the problem!

It's official Federation policy to do nothing if the crime is big enough I guess?

Jenuall wrote:Long running stories, proper character development, series/season long arcs etc. - all of these have been around for donkeys years are certainly not the result of streaming or on demand services!

Jenuall wrote:That's obviously why they let Wesley sit there so often, it's a piece of piss and probably limits his ability to cause any real trouble elsewhere on the ship!

Hexx wrote:They forgot to tell her they inverted the Y-axis on the Dpad