The Star Trek Thread

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What is the best Star Trek series (2020 version of poll)?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:46 pm

The Original Series
1
7%
Next Generation
7
50%
Deep Space 9
3
21%
Voyager
2
14%
Enterprise
0
No votes
Discovery
1
7%
Picard
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 14
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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Cuttooth » Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:46 pm

That's not how the song goes.

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Squinty » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:35 am

I think the scoring is the most standout thing for me. TNG through to Enterprise have a similar style of music through scenes, and a similar use of it. I really miss that.

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Squinty » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:37 am

Somebody Else's Presents wrote:
Squinty wrote:BUT MY TIME IS FINALLY NEAR


I WILL SEE MY DREAM COME ALIVE AT LAST


I WILL TOUCH THE SKY

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by Somebody Else's Presents » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:39 am

Squinty wrote:
Somebody Else's Presents wrote:
Squinty wrote:BUT MY TIME IS FINALLY NEAR


I WILL SEE MY DREAM COME ALIVE AT LAST


I WILL TOUCH THE SKY


AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA HOLD ME DOWN NO MORE, NO THEY'RE NOT GONNA CHANGE MY MIND

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Jenuall » Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:15 am

Just the very idea of a Trek show having a theme with lyrics is :dread:

The only time Trek needs to be lyricised is this:


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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Somebody Else's Presents » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:23 pm

I'll have you know the TOS theme officially had lyrics (Gene Roddenberry wrote them because he wanted to get the royalties instead of Alexander Courage, in one of the all-time biggest dick moves).

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Squinty » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:11 pm

Binge watched all of Picard. I thought it was okay. Not great, although it did have some excellent moments.

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by Somebody Else's Presents » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:18 pm

Squinty wrote:Binge watched all of Picard. I thought it was okay. Not great, although it did have some excellent moments.


That could describe the first season of pretty much every Star Trek series, to be fair.

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by Squinty » Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:24 pm

Somebody Else's Presents wrote:
Squinty wrote:Binge watched all of Picard. I thought it was okay. Not great, although it did have some excellent moments.


That could describe the first season of pretty much every Star Trek series, to be fair.


My biggest takeaway is that Chakotay was so gooseberry fool, he turned Seven of Nine gay.

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Peter Crisp » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:31 pm

Squinty wrote:Binge watched all of Picard. I thought it was okay. Not great, although it did have some excellent moments.


I think the main problem is just the high level of expectation everyone had for the show.
Following TNG was always going to be a thankless task and the fact that it was a totally different kind of show really didn't help.

I liked it overall but it could and should have been better.
Killing a beloved character in such a brutal way was a mistake.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Peter Crisp » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:33 pm

Squinty wrote:
Somebody Else's Presents wrote:
Squinty wrote:Binge watched all of Picard. I thought it was okay. Not great, although it did have some excellent moments.


That could describe the first season of pretty much every Star Trek series, to be fair.


My biggest takeaway is that Chakotay was so gooseberry fool, he turned Seven of Nine gay.


:slol: .
Wow, even Nelix didn't manage to do that to Kes so he must have been really bad.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Jenuall » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:52 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:
Squinty wrote:Binge watched all of Picard. I thought it was okay. Not great, although it did have some excellent moments.


I think the main problem is just the high level of expectation everyone had for the show.
Following TNG was always going to be a thankless task and the fact that it was a totally different kind of show really didn't help.

I liked it overall but it could and should have been better.
Killing a beloved character in such a brutal way was a mistake.

Even trying to take Picard at face value and evaluate it on its own terms it was just a flawed sci-fi show. The characters were poorly drawn, the plots and pacing were inconsistent, motivations for key events and choices were often muddled and overall it just really didn't seem to know what it wanted to be or say.

I've still got hopes for season 2 as there is clearly plenty that you can do with Picard and the new elements the show introduced are not entirely without merit, but it has definitely got its work cut out

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Squinty » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:36 pm

I agree with pretty much of all of that. I'd like to hope they will listen to feedback about how Season 1 didn't work. I certainly enjoyed Picard more than I have Discovery.

My favourite bit was Seven asking Picard if he ever thought he regained his humanity. I loved that short scene.

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Peter Crisp » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:54 pm

Yeah, I can't say I disagree.
I hope they get away from a seeming need for constant action and have more story-based episodes next series.
Hopefully, with the return of Guinan we may see a few more contemplative episodes with moral problems to solve that require good old fashioned diplomacy.

Lastly, was I the only person that thought the Orchid thingies looked shockingly like Vorlon ships from B5?

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Squinty » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:25 am

The space orchids were dumb.

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Karl_ » Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:53 pm

Not much Discovery chat here this season. I think "the burn" was an interesting premise, but this season has been on a pretty consistent downhill trajectory in terms of quality. I don't want to spoil anything but the more they discover about "the burn" and the new politics of the galaxy the sillier it all seems IMO.

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Peter Crisp » Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:00 pm

Where's the 29th century Borg?
Q?

Are the Kazon still totally gooseberry fool?

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by Somebody Else's Presents » Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:21 pm

Karl_ wrote:Not much Discovery chat here this season. I think "the burn" was an interesting premise, but this season has been on a pretty consistent downhill trajectory in terms of quality. I don't want to spoil anything but the more they discover about "the burn" and the new politics of the galaxy the sillier it all seems IMO.


I'm enjoying the season, but I don't want to say so because it's like the strawberry floating Batsignal to Hexx for him to moan.

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PostRe: The Star Trek Thread
by Karl_ » Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:22 pm

Somebody Else's Presents wrote:I'm enjoying the season, but I don't want to say so because it's like the strawberry floating Batsignal to Hexx for him to moan.

:lol: I wouldn't take Hexx seriously. He's a comic relief character. GRcade's Neelix. ;)

I don't want to be a downer for anyone enjoying it of course! Was just posting my opinion :)


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