The Star Wars Thread v2 - *NO SPOILERS*

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by Tafdolphin » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:25 am

D-O was funny. I liked the little robot mechanic.

I still think the prank phonecall joke was genuinely funny and was used well to establish character roles and dynamics that are paid off later on.

Horses for courses. My bone to pick this morning is people (Hexx. I mean Hexx) being gleefully dickish about everything.

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by Hexx » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:30 am

Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:They're in a strawberry floating rush, they're not going to look for the premium bloody parking space! :lol:

CGI is better than the octopus monster from the cringe-fest that is the Kanjiklub section of TFA.

It's not pointless to the larger plot - it's integral to Finn's arc. :fp:

Oh and if you think that looks like Earth then I need to get out more! :lol:


Except they're not in a rush at any other point are they? They stop to waste plenty of time. It's just needed to advance plot.

Oh god I'd forgotten that entire bit

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Ignoring the alien heads, it could be a high stakes casino in pretty much any "earth set movie" (you can completely see a Bond movie happening here)

I mean compare with this that...I mean what the strawberry float is this? Bubble Opera?..but at least it pretends to be otherworldly interesting



(Someone pointed out to me that Palpy is so evil in this he does the "talk slowly evil head turn over shoulder" 4 or 5 times in this one scene :lol: )

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by Moggy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:32 am

I am too tightfisted to pay to see this and so downloaded a cam copy. The quality looks poor so I am not sure if I will bother watching it, but the translation on the opening crawl made me laugh.

Spoilers (maybe?) in box below. Although I have no idea if it actually describes any of the plot as it's mainly meaningless gibberish. :lol:

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:35 am

Jesus Christ Moggy :lol:

Forget TLJ, AotC or anything else. Moggy is somehow but definitely the worst thing about Star Wars :lol:.

Edit - just read the translation and it's 100% Engrish but also pretty spot on, to be fair!

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by Jenuall » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:36 am

I'm going to start using the term "determinated" now. :datass:

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PostRe: The Star Wars Thread v2 - *NO SPOILERS*
by Jenuall » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:39 am

Hexx wrote:Image

Ignoring the alien heads, it could be a high stakes casino in pretty much any "earth set movie" (you can completely see a Bond movie happening here)


"Ignore the things that make it different and it's just the same!"

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by Hexx » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:43 am

Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Hexx wrote:Image

Ignoring the alien heads, it could be a high stakes casino in pretty much any "earth set movie" (you can completely see a Bond movie happening here)


"Ignore the things that make it different and it's just the same!"

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Be flippant all you want but it doesn't change it being one of the most unimaginative and boring set/location since SG1 went to the exact same Colorado forest like planet for the 187th time ;)

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by Moggy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:44 am

I Shot A Kid wrote:Jesus Christ Moggy :lol:

Forget TLJ, AotC or anything else. Moggy is somehow but definitely the worst thing about Star Wars :lol:.

Edit - just read the translation and it's 100% Engrish but also pretty spot on, to be fair!


I haven't watched the download so I am not yet the worst thing about Star Wars. ;)

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PostRe: The Star Wars Thread v2 - *NO SPOILERS*
by Jenuall » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:47 am

Hexx wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Hexx wrote:Image

Ignoring the alien heads, it could be a high stakes casino in pretty much any "earth set movie" (you can completely see a Bond movie happening here)


"Ignore the things that make it different and it's just the same!"

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Be flippant all you want but it doesn't change it being one of the most unimaginative and boring set/location since SG1 went to the exact same Colorado forest like planet for the 187th time ;)

And going to "backwater sand world" for the umpteenth time is somehow more imaginative? :lol:

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by Tafdolphin » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:49 am

Hexx has gone full Mommy

Never thought I'd see the day.

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PostRe: The Star Wars Thread v2 - *NO SPOILERS*
by Hexx » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:51 am

Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Hexx wrote:
Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Hexx wrote:Image

Ignoring the alien heads, it could be a high stakes casino in pretty much any "earth set movie" (you can completely see a Bond movie happening here)


"Ignore the things that make it different and it's just the same!"

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Be flippant all you want but it doesn't change it being one of the most unimaginative and boring set/location since SG1 went to the exact same Colorado forest like planet for the 187th time ;)

And going to "backwater sand world" for the umpteenth time is somehow more imaginative? :lol:


I didn't say it was?

Someone asked why that Canto Blight section was so badly thought off and one of the reasons I listed was "Looks very "earth like". Lazy and boring."

Two things can be bad? I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make now

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by Parksey » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:52 am

I like the TLJ and I think the prank phone call is cringeworthy. It's definitely not as funny as TFA, which I rewatched back in 2017 and was surprised at how many jokes landed. The humour in TFJ isn't that bad but it definitely doesn't have the sharp lines of dialogue it's predecessor has.

Actually, I thought the opening to TLJ was fine. The bombing run is okay, the fallout and Rey's opening exchanges with Luke carry your attention. It's the middle third that drags. I was surprised at how quickly Rey leaves Luke in the Falcon (I remember it as being near the end but there must be at least an hour with no Luke).

The casino part actually felt quite short the first time around. They sort of land, go in, get captured and get out. It's the whole codebreaker plot in general to be honest - they should have scrapped Del Toro's shitty character and gone for another approach.

But, like all parts of TLJ, even though I don't like it, I can understand why it's there. And it's this, rather and subjective yardstick of "good" or "bad" I wonder about when I read criticism about it. The casino and ultimately traitorous codebreaker serve to show Finn something - namely the murkiness of the conflict, and how, at best, those in the casino are guilty of sallow complicit was or, at worst, how the self-serving needs and side-switching of DJ the codebreaker gets people killed at his whims. It's there to reinforce Finn finally steadfastingly picking a side.

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by Tomous » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:01 am

Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:
Hexx wrote:Image

Ignoring the alien heads, it could be a high stakes casino in pretty much any "earth set movie" (you can completely see a Bond movie happening here)


"Ignore the things that make it different and it's just the same!"


The alien heads aren't part of the location though are they? It doesn't make it a good Star Wars location just by adding some aliens to it.

If they're going to do a Star Wars casino, I want it to be some weird and wonderful Star Wars version with lots of interesting things going on. A replica of an Earth casino isn't interesting...it's just dull and like Hexx said unimaginative.

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by Hexx » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:05 am

But anyway....how about the Rise of Skywalker guys?

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by OrangeRKN » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:06 am

One of the best Star Wars locations is the Mos Eisely cantina and that's just a bar with an alien jazz band

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by Tafdolphin » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:06 am

Hexx wrote:But anyway....how about the Rise of Skywalker guys?


It was not to my taste, but I appreciate the opinions of those who liked it! :simper:

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by Cheeky Devlin » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:15 am

I tentatively liked it, but no more than that. It's got a multitude of issues, some of which are isolated within it and others that are because of the sequel trilogy in general.

One thing to potentially look forward is that the Skywalker saga is done. Finito. Closed off. Finished.

So those who really liked TLJ and it's attempt to do something different can look forward to movies that don't have any of the baggage of these 9 and can essentially do whatever they want.

They've essentially got a blank slate to work on and it'll be interested to see where they take it. There's nothing to say it needs to be set anywhere near these ones either. They could jump 1000 years in the future, or go 1000 years back to see the Old Republic.

Personally I want something that has absolutely no connection to the original saga whatsoever. All new characters, new situations and new stories.

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by OrangeRKN » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 am

Merry Christmous Everyone wrote:The hyperdrive weapon moment is one of the best SW moments ever


You meant the moment that retroactively made every past Star Wars space battle make no sense, and that didn't even make sense in isolation (they had like three ships but waited until they had only the one left before hyperspace jumping it into the enemy... for reasons? They could have stopped the pursuit almost immediately with the same move and kept everyone safe on the other ships, rather than evacuating on tiny lifeboats)

Cheeky Devlin wrote:They've essentially got a blank slate to work on and it'll be interested to see where they take it. There's nothing to say it needs to be set anywhere near these ones either. They could jump 1000 years in the future, or go 1000 years back to see the Old Republic.


We were in the exact same situation before this sequel trilogy tbf

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by Cheeky Devlin » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:28 am

OrangeXMS wrote:We were in the exact same situation before this sequel trilogy tbf

Not quite. The sequel trilogy was always going to be completing George Lucas planned 9 episode epic. It was always going to be a continuation of the previous movies and follow on and "finish" that story which by necessity required it to be linked to that in some manner.

Now they may have bungled the conception and execution of that trilogy, but it is (For better or worse) a part of that 9 episode saga.

Whatever comes now has absolutely no-obligation to be linked to the existing storyline in anyway whatsoever.

EDIT: I would also say that they need to drop the "Episode" titles going forward as well.

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by OrangeRKN » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:33 am

I thought the 9 episode saga thing was just retroactively made up for marketing reasons. Wasn't aware that Lucas had planned for a sequel trilogy!

ROTJ wrapped everything up so they didn't need to continue on from it, but I get what you mean if that was always the intention.


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