The Star Wars Thread v2 - *NO SPOILERS*

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by Godzilla » Tue May 05, 2020 11:41 am

Have many people seen the Holiday Special? I saw it last year and it's .... Different. All the Wookie stuff has not aged well.

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by Moggy » Tue May 05, 2020 1:36 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Also I don’t like the idea of a jedi having that kind of power. Makes previous jedi seem a bit gooseberry fool.


I’m not defending that scene (it was poorly done) but it’s no different to things that Jedi were doing in Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith and the Clone Wars TV show. If anything Leia was massive underpowered.

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by Frank » Tue May 05, 2020 1:39 pm

Isn't it literally just her using like Force Pull or whatever to drag herself back towards the ship :shifty:

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by Alvin Flummux » Tue May 05, 2020 2:07 pm

Frank wrote:Isn't it literally just her using like Force Pull or whatever to drag herself back towards the ship :shifty:


In an extreme situation, she used the last of her strength to force pull herself to safety - she felt Kylo's hesitation, probably knew he didn't fire on her, so maybe that gave her the hope and strength when she needed it to carry on.

It's no different to the many real world stories of, say, people using superhuman strength to save someone trapped after a car accident, or whatever.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue May 05, 2020 2:15 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Frank wrote:Isn't it literally just her using like Force Pull or whatever to drag herself back towards the ship :shifty:


In an extreme situation, she used the last of her strength to force pull herself to safety - she felt Kylo's hesitation, probably knew he didn't fire on her, so maybe that gave her the hope and strength when she needed it to carry on.

It's no different to the many real world stories of, say, people using superhuman strength to save someone trapped after a car accident, or whatever.


This is what it's like talking to my hard-core star wars fan mates :lol:

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by Hime » Tue May 05, 2020 2:45 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Frank wrote:Isn't it literally just her using like Force Pull or whatever to drag herself back towards the ship :shifty:


In an extreme situation, she used the last of her strength to force pull herself to safety - she felt Kylo's hesitation, probably knew he didn't fire on her, so maybe that gave her the hope and strength when she needed it to carry on.

It's no different to the many real world stories of, say, people using superhuman strength to save someone trapped after a car accident, or whatever.

Yet it's completely unbelievable that Palpatine could have survived? Or some future space compass could have been used to find the dark side thing on the Death Star or Chewie was on a different ship or whatever.

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by Jenuall » Tue May 05, 2020 2:58 pm

Hime wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Frank wrote:Isn't it literally just her using like Force Pull or whatever to drag herself back towards the ship :shifty:


In an extreme situation, she used the last of her strength to force pull herself to safety - she felt Kylo's hesitation, probably knew he didn't fire on her, so maybe that gave her the hope and strength when she needed it to carry on.

It's no different to the many real world stories of, say, people using superhuman strength to save someone trapped after a car accident, or whatever.

Yet it's completely unbelievable that Palpatine could have survived? Or some future space compass could have been used to find the dark side thing on the Death Star or Chewie was on a different ship or whatever.

Palpatine didn't actually survive though, it was a clone apparently. :dread:

Whilst the wayfinder space compass itself isn't totally stupid as an idea its more the terrible way it fits into the plot of endless fetch quests that is the rest of the movie. Also it apparently is essential for getting to Exegol... until Kylo manages to get there at the end without one! :lol:

Chewie being in another ship is just a terrible piece of plot misdirection and barely plausible within the scenario anyway as everyone is in an open desert area where surely they would have seen another ship in the sky or still on the ground? :fp:

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by Victor Mildew » Tue May 05, 2020 3:10 pm

That strawberry floating Chewie fakeout :fp: There was another ship behind the rock....what?! :lol:

If she'd actually killed him, then been destroyed with guilt, you just might buy into the idea that she could be turned to the dark side in the half an hour of remaining runtime the film had (luke nearly turning was based on him watching his friends die). But no GOT YOU THERE wink wink.

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by Hime » Tue May 05, 2020 3:51 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Hime wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Frank wrote:Isn't it literally just her using like Force Pull or whatever to drag herself back towards the ship :shifty:


In an extreme situation, she used the last of her strength to force pull herself to safety - she felt Kylo's hesitation, probably knew he didn't fire on her, so maybe that gave her the hope and strength when she needed it to carry on.

It's no different to the many real world stories of, say, people using superhuman strength to save someone trapped after a car accident, or whatever.

Yet it's completely unbelievable that Palpatine could have survived? Or some future space compass could have been used to find the dark side thing on the Death Star or Chewie was on a different ship or whatever.

Palpatine didn't actually survive though, it was a clone apparently. :dread:

Whilst the wayfinder space compass itself isn't totally stupid as an idea its more the terrible way it fits into the plot of endless fetch quests that is the rest of the movie. Also it apparently is essential for getting to Exegol... until Kylo manages to get there at the end without one! :lol:

Chewie being in another ship is just a terrible piece of plot misdirection and barely plausible within the scenario anyway as everyone is in an open desert area where surely they would have seen another ship in the sky or still on the ground? :fp:

I'm not going to defend any of that gooseberry fool but the stuff in TLJ is just as dumb.

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by Alvin Flummux » Tue May 05, 2020 4:09 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Hime wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Frank wrote:Isn't it literally just her using like Force Pull or whatever to drag herself back towards the ship :shifty:


In an extreme situation, she used the last of her strength to force pull herself to safety - she felt Kylo's hesitation, probably knew he didn't fire on her, so maybe that gave her the hope and strength when she needed it to carry on.

It's no different to the many real world stories of, say, people using superhuman strength to save someone trapped after a car accident, or whatever.

Yet it's completely unbelievable that Palpatine could have survived? Or some future space compass could have been used to find the dark side thing on the Death Star or Chewie was on a different ship or whatever.

Palpatine didn't actually survive though, it was a clone apparently. :dread:


If you're a would-be galactic dictator with ambitions to rule a thousand generation empire, wouldn't you want a backup plan in case someone tries to off you? Given how effective the Clones were in service to the Republic, I'd say they more than proved the concept workable.



:lol: :wub:

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by Moggy » Wed May 06, 2020 10:58 am



:lol:

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by Alvin Flummux » Wed May 06, 2020 4:07 pm

I want to see an alternate history comic series that explores what might have happened if Padmé had survived.

Does she attempt to save Vader again - if so, how does that confrontation go?
Does she go into hiding - if so, where?
Do Luke and Leia still become separated - if so, does Padmé remain in their lives in any meaningful way?
How do things go when Luke comes of age - does she play the same role as Lars & Beru, trying to keep him safe in isolation, or does she take on more of a Jango role, training him in some fashion from a young age to fill a role she wishes he shouldn't have to fill one day?

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by Robbo-92 » Wed May 06, 2020 5:10 pm

Moggy wrote:

:lol:


Well you can’t just go around fixing broken hearts can you now? :lol:

Even though they probably had the technology to quickly clone/produce a brand spanking new one for her.......

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by Venom » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:17 pm

Will the Disney timeline be undone by becoming an alternative reality of the George Lucas timeline?


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by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:44 pm

Venom wrote:Will the Disney timeline be undone by becoming an alternative reality of the George Lucas timeline?



I read about this the other day. I don't see that happening at all.

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by Alvin Flummux » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:15 am

Like the alleged "J.J. cut" of TRoS, and similar rumors from the start of the year, this is some bullshit that probably seeped out of the Fandom Menace via r/saltierthancrait.

The current focus of the upcoming films is still presumed to be the Old Republic, while the High Republic era will be dominating the book scene for the next little bit, and various shows* will be taking place in and around the Imperial era.

*Obi-Wan, Mandalorian, and at least one heavily rumored new animated show.


By the by, Star Wars: Resistance is a pretty great little show. Its short length (two 20 episode seasons) precludes it from reaching the wondrous highs of TCW and Rebels, but nevertheless, it is a lovely little show with a lot of heart.

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by captain red dog » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:16 am

I can actually buy that there were multiple cuts, the creation of TRoS seems to have been pretty chaotic. I've seen rumours today about the Lucas cut and the scene that Anakin was apparently in. I can almost believe that as there were rumours Hayden Christensen had shot a scene, and he voiced one of the force ghosts at the end.

Not sure it would turn the film into a classic, but it does sound like the Lucas cut actually tried to make a bit more sense out of the plot.

Also, moving the sequel trilogy to legacy Canon would probably help fix things. They could either end the Skywalkers saga at ROTJ, which for me is still the best ending they could have come up with, or they can do another trilogy with more Luke and make even more money.

I can see even the most jaded of fans being tempted back for another film centering on Luke.

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by Frank » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:25 am

I reckon them trying to retcon the sequel trilogy would just lead to more confusion from the normal cinema-goer, though. The anthology films not really fitting into the trilogy was bad enough, so then if they say "oh yeah so 7, 8, and 9 don't count anymore so here's a new episode 7" everyone'll just be like "oh another one?!" and not bother with it.

Also I know there's a few Clone Wars fans here but I haven't seen anyone post this:



So the rumours of the Bad Batch spin off were true. Will be really cheap in terms of voice actors :slol:

Hope the Rebels sequel is still in progress, too. Does seem odd that they haven't really bothered with any shows to try and flesh out the sequel universe beyond Resistance, and that didn't even do that much.

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by Victor Mildew » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:29 am

Wiping the films from canon this close to them coming out would be so confusing for all but the most die hard star wars neck beard. Better to just quietly accept they were hugely flawed and move on to making better films.

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by Mafro » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:29 am

Oh my god can they strawberry float off with the Clone Wars-era spin offs and do something else?

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