The Walking Dead on AMC

Tragic Magic wrote:Where has this bread joke come from?

I don't know, but there's no knead for them!

Tragic Magic wrote:Where has this bread joke come from?

Sasha was a baker.

Ad7 wrote:

more heat than light wrote:I didn't think it was that terrible, there have been worse episodes this season. Still annoying that they tend to focus on the least likeable characters, and Jesus is still gooseberry fool.

Who was the guy in the dark at the end? Couldn't make it out.

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At least something happened, but as usual it was done badly. So the main saviour Base is now guarded by one person, captain mullet? Two dippy sulking women can just stroll up to a fence, cut it and walk in a door and nobody anywhere else clocks anything?

At least the hidden escape hatch thing was cool.

As bad as that was the [scene missing] and then in the next scene they're sitting in an abandoned industrial unit with perfect sniper's sight of the Saviours' base. They spend most the time there not watching for Negan, and when they are, they're just sticking up with their heads out the window, talking in their normal voices.

And then, worst of all, instantly give up on an otherwise sound plan because it hasn't worked once.

Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Poser wrote:

Ad7 wrote:

more heat than light wrote:I didn't think it was that terrible, there have been worse episodes this season. Still annoying that they tend to focus on the least likeable characters, and Jesus is still gooseberry fool.

Who was the guy in the dark at the end? Couldn't make it out.

Notsureifserious.gif

At least something happened, but as usual it was done badly. So the main saviour Base is now guarded by one person, captain mullet? Two dippy sulking women can just stroll up to a fence, cut it and walk in a door and nobody anywhere else clocks anything?

At least the hidden escape hatch thing was cool.

As bad as that was the [scene missing] and then in the next scene they're sitting in an abandoned industrial unit with perfect sniper's sight of the Saviours' base. They spend most the time there not watching for Negan, and when they are, they're just sticking up with their heads out the window, talking in their normal voices.

And then, worst of all, instantly give up on an otherwise sound plan because it hasn't worked once.

Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

We've been here waiting to snipe for 10 minutes and Negan hasn't come outside. Obviously that must mean he never ever leaves his compound so let's go commit suicide. But not you, it's not your time, I'll go and die for no reason at all and be the cause of the Saviours taking revenge on our loved ones. Yay, it's a great plan!

And then, they lez up.

Moggy wrote:

Poser wrote:

Ad7 wrote:

more heat than light wrote:I didn't think it was that terrible, there have been worse episodes this season. Still annoying that they tend to focus on the least likeable characters, and Jesus is still gooseberry fool.

Who was the guy in the dark at the end? Couldn't make it out.

Notsureifserious.gif

At least something happened, but as usual it was done badly. So the main saviour Base is now guarded by one person, captain mullet? Two dippy sulking women can just stroll up to a fence, cut it and walk in a door and nobody anywhere else clocks anything?

At least the hidden escape hatch thing was cool.

As bad as that was the [scene missing] and then in the next scene they're sitting in an abandoned industrial unit with perfect sniper's sight of the Saviours' base. They spend most the time there not watching for Negan, and when they are, they're just sticking up with their heads out the window, talking in their normal voices.

And then, worst of all, instantly give up on an otherwise sound plan because it hasn't worked once.

Fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

We've been here waiting to snipe for 10 minutes and Negan hasn't come outside. Obviously that must mean he never ever leaves his compound so let's go commit suicide. But not you, it's not your time, I'll go and die for no reason at all and be the cause of the Saviours taking revenge on our loved ones. Yay, it's a great plan!

Yes. They know their allies are not yet ready for a battle with the Saviours. So let's dive in and strawberry float them over.

Honestly, the scriptwriters have just strawberry floating given up. At least give them a reason why they have to give up on the sniping plan. They could have discovered the Saviours were doing sweeps of the unit. There ya go, they've got to move.

I think there is some going to be some heavy retconning, in terms of reducing the scale of the Saviours when it comes down to an actual fight. It looked like there were hundreds of them in previous episodes - I bet that never materialises.

Ad7 wrote:And then, they lez up.

That would have saved the episode for me.

And another thing... we're all sitting there thinking Rosita is a whingy banana split who has never done anything. As far as we were concerned, she hadn't earned the right to sulk and behave like an idiot, cheated on and grieving or otherwise. She was just a background eye candy character.

And then Sasha is all 'we're so grateful to have you, you know how to do everything'. And Rosita spends the episode being useful. It's like they've forgotten to point out that she's a badass. Oh, gooseberry fool, yeah, this is why she's not dead yet and why you should care about her. Soz. Our bad.

To be fair I think captain mullet helpfully expositioned on the radio enough to say the saviours were going to check the out buildings for more zombies, so that's why they moved on. It just wasn't explained very well.

The smell of freshly baked walking bread would have led them there eventually anyway.

Poser wrote:And another thing... we're all sitting there thinking Rosita is a whingy banana split who has never done anything. As far as we were concerned, she hadn't earned the right to sulk and behave like an idiot, cheated on and grieving or otherwise. She was just a background eye candy character.

And then Sasha is all 'we're so grateful to have you, you know how to do everything'. And Rosita spends the episode being useful. It's like they've forgotten to point out that she's a badass. Oh, gooseberry fool, yeah, this is why she's not dead yet and why you should care about her. Soz. Our bad.

During that bit I was trying to think of any useful things that Rosita has done during the 4 or 5 seasons that she has been in the show that nobody else has done.

I still can’t think of any. Even Coral has managed to be more useful.

Ad7 wrote:To be fair I think captain mullet helpfully expositioned on the radio enough to say the saviours were going to check the out buildings for more zombies, so that's why they moved on. It just wasn't explained very well.

Ah, cheers, I managed to miss that somehow.

Ad7 wrote:To be fair I think captain mullet helpfully expositioned on the radio enough to say the saviours were going to check the out buildings for more zombies, so that's why they moved on. It just wasn't explained very well.

Yeah it is far better to attack a heavily guarded compound rather than lie in wait and just ambush a couple of guys that are heading to a building that they assume is abandoned.

I can't believe how this season has quickly turned hardened viewers in to 'haters' so easily! Now all we're doing is ripping the piss out of it!

I was right all along.

I don't really know why I watch it. I can't remember a time when it was actually decent.

Gandalf wrote:I can't believe how this season has quickly turned hardened viewers in to 'haters' so easily! Now all we're doing is ripping the piss out of it!

I don't actually hate it, it has great moments and I enjoy it for the most part.

What it needs is to have less episodes per season and then they can cut out the crappy filler.

Gandalf wrote:I can't believe how this season has quickly turned hardened viewers in to 'haters' so easily! Now all we're doing is ripping the piss out of it!

It's because we love it that we're so hard on it. We know how good it could be, but simple errors, oversights and laziness seem to undermine the awesome bits.

I think its telling that all the good bits are straight from the comics, and all the rubbish is stuff they have decided to add. Really doesn't reflect very well on the tv writers.

Beyond the slight tweak they did with Glenn's death, I can't think of anything of value the tv writers have added.

Albear wrote:I think its telling that all the good bits are straight from the comics, and all the rubbish is stuff they have decided to add. Really doesn't reflect very well on the tv writers.

Or the TV industry as a whole.

I remember reading about how 24's writers never knew how a season was going to end when they started it, because of the way filming schedules work. They often never know if they're getting another series, at any point, so they end up hedging their bets. Obviously fiction is all 'made up' but they are quite often literally making it up as they go along.

From the point of view of creating decent narrative, the best thing they can do for TWD, and most TV shows, is set a fixed end point and stick to it. But they never will because they have to make funding decisions on the fly based on audience figures, syndication sales and advertising rates.

It's a really shitty industry

(That doesn't excuse the crapness of many segments of TWD, but in terms of the overall story arcs, it's easy to see how they get it so wrong.)

Poser wrote:From the point of view of creating decent narrative, the best thing they can do for TWD, and most TV shows, is set a fixed end point and stick to it.

Yeah, that worked really well with Lost....