The Weather Mk. II

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by Green Gecko » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:58 pm

Yeah I shared this story because I know round about now/tomorrow/next month it'll be a comically bizarre and ridiculous occurrence worthy of a monty python sketch. And it was by that realisation that I gave up and just cried instead. Bearing in mind in an emotionally vulnerable state like that logical reasoning doesn't happen, you just want the source of anxiety to please stop. If I suffer a meltdown I can't think coherently and my brain falls apart. Whether or not I chose to express that or say anything at all.

It was a long shot. But I asked shortly after his argument went off as well and it was a lifeboat to suggest its not going to help anything by shouting at them. Then after he had been restrained which I didn't altogether think was necessary but the police can do it, and was still mouthing off, I explained a second time with reasons why it was distressing for someone else besides him.

This was not a considerate or civil person who chose to act in that manner. He wasn't capable of having a discussion either as he spoke over everything anyone said every 3 seconds. On a right bender about it.

I don't necessarily agree with the police's actions but I did feel bad for him, hence I literally posited the question, have a strawberry floating massive paddy about being required to walk a different way literally around a 100ft block and disturb everyone yelling and swearing, or calm down and not present himself the risk of getting arrested, then banging on about being assaulted by a shove and quoting their uniform numbers.

Yes it was pointless but it helped me cope with the sensory overload by directly addressing it. I thought there was a slight chance he would deescalate from another's perspective but he didn't. He chose a one man riot about a piece of plastic in his way and caused undue distress for those in the vicinity. I couldn't leave the house because of the cordon. He could walk away but chose to pick a fight instead.

If I'm suffering a meltdown the brain goes into an emotionally and physically inept state were logic like that flies out the window. I actually wondered if that is what had happened to him and thus voiced some concern it was not going to help anything shouting about it. Basic deescalation through reasoning strategies and socratic questioning. If he was so inconvenienced why not consider others as part of his challenge? A person who actually cares about such public inconveniences does that.

He spoke sarcastically and in bad faith the whole time while accusing them of also being sarcastic. Even said, "you lot love to come up with ways to inconvenience people don't you??" Not likely, they were sent out on a job and a police cordon that says do not cross you don't cross, that would have come from above them following a report of a hazard from another member of the public, they're just actioning that. So if you're super pissed off about that address that kindly or in writing or whatever. What they did instead is create a pointless aggression. Don't yell through someone else's space about such inconveniences, because it's hypocritical and selfish. That's how I feel about people losing their gooseberry fool in public anyway.

They explained debris could fall or be flown about in the strong wind, and could hurt him, sure it's extremely unlikely yet he just kept repeating that's a load of rubbish and he doesn't agree, thus he should be let through. Even if it's unlikely it is still possible. Nice try but no cigar, it's your own funeral yes but is that the best outcome from the situation?

Way over labouring the point here and just blogging about a strange day for my own sensory processing needs, but for sure I'll let the police do their job next time. Maybe I should mind my own business but perhaps they made their business my business and they were unfortunate enough to kick off around someone who doesn't appreciate needless aggression.

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by DarkRula » Mon Feb 21, 2022 7:45 pm

Sorry you had to put up with such ignorance and insolence. What a right idiot. If he hadn't have gone off on one, it'd probably have been quicker to take the diversion. Then again, I doubt he had any sense of rational thinking anyway if he started an argument with police.

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by Green Gecko » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:28 pm

Thank you. It was some of the wildest, most contrarian arguing I've ever seen. Like someone half drunk but this is them normally. They must have had a seriously bad day. In fact I said to the PC, someone must have pissed in their cheerios.

I'm not gonna go out and "have a quiet word" with literal armed criminals (although I was pretty safe in my doorway with two coppers outside), of course not, but the older I get the more willing I am. Not the other way around. I dealt with bullying a lot when I was younger and only recently have I developed some confidence, I'm just not always sure in which circumstances to excercise it.

Probably best to let the police do their job. Yet if someone is yelling continuously outside my home I probably will ask them to move on. Is that petty. I'm not sure. There's a real risk of gooseberry fool going down but a part of me refuses to be afraid of obnoxious people anymore.

There is a very real risk of harassment I need to be careful about but it sucks people have to even worry about that to call others out on shitty behaviour. That's a strawberry floated up society.

I moaned about this more on discord but one example, they literally said "things only fall in one direction, down!! Do they move sideways? No. [I have never heard of wind]". Ok only part of that quote is accurate. It was like arguing with someone about the colour black in a dark room, when you could just turn the light on. (Besides black not being a colour, but let's not get into that).

I seldom relate to people who seek conflict. Maybe I'm a hypocrit for enduring and defending my own sensory overload yet there is a 1 out 100 minority of people who struggle with this gooseberry fool all the time and most of them have no voice at all.

There are people born with the ability to literally tune out sources of conflict or irritance such as loud, continuous yelling. That's a mechanical ability of the human brain. There are those that can't. That's a legitimate disability and its just one such part of those brains.

I get pissed about people endlessly beeping their horns in traffic too. It's strawberry floating pointless.

Oh well. It's happened and it created a odd story of British man arguing the toss with the police about basically nothing and then that upset someone who is neurologically vulnerable to that. First World problems.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:54 am

Sadly people arguing with the police at cordons is a very common thing. People think they have a god given right to walk through them. Usually they try to slip through and pretend they haven't seen them. Others rudely demand they be let through as they are late for something important. Even if theirs a dead body or dying person just yards away.

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by Green Gecko » Tue Feb 22, 2022 1:50 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Sadly people arguing with the police at cordons is a very common thing. People think they have a god given right to walk through them. Usually they try to slip through and pretend they haven't seen them. Others rudely demand they be let through as they are late for something important. Even if theirs a dead body or dying person just yards away.

I was concerned it might have been an unlawful arrest regardless of however it affected me so I did some reading from both the law but also some freedom of speech and protest rights advocacy groups.

They were probably charged under section 5 of the public order act 1986, but arrested under later powers (as not all charges or accusations carry penalties of any kind or warrant an arrest or anything for that matter), as they didn't have a reasonable grounds, such as organised protest, to harass the officers. They had basically no point and just kept telling the officers that he didn't agree it was necessary and they can't tell him what to do. Ok cool. Except they probably can, they're the police. :lol:

I feel the difference in that choice of words there is important: someone can or cannot, or could or could not, or might but might not, tell you to do something (he was asked, not told) but you can choose how you act accordingly. He chose to have a massive one sided vitriole about it instead. It's a basic tenet of behavioural psychology that a healthy person can aim to choose how they act in accordance with thoughts and behaviours, both in how we function as individuals but also in response to others. They were annoyed, a feeling, but they expressed that with harassment. I've done CBT, you learn to identify cycles like this. So I could kind of see this playing out and just thinking, mate, don't choose this hill to die on. Walk away. Anger issues.

The powers of arrest would come under instead Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 amended or superseded by the serious organised crime and policing act (SOCPA, which was pretty dodgy at the time), then updated again in 2017 policing and crime act. There were so many laws updated governing police powers over the past 2 decades mostly around terrorism and some would say to impinge peaceful right to protest. Unless you know your law very well (as in the last few years) it's a not a great idea to get into an argument about them.

I do think these powers are often used to restrict protest, but this guy said what he had to say and then went on to harass and (in terms of the public order act and more recent laws) conduct himself in a way that the officers could reasonably suspect that he would breach the peace, become violent or commit any other civil, statutory or indeed criminal offence. Like, I know it sucks that police can get the wrong idea, but it is their job to make that call and try and prevent offences, not just respond to them.

When distressing another enough beyond mere disturbance or annoyance or offence, such as another person feeling afraid (I did) and they can't reasonably argue they couldn't have known that were possible (Ie they're right next to somebody else's home), and even the police officers themselves can legally count themselves as victims of such (this is upheld by case law, e.g. if an officer feels threatened or harassed, beyond what they would normally expect to deal with on a day to day basis, like being sworn at or whatever), AND their conduct isn't reasonable for some other reasons such as an organised protest, the officers could arrest them to prevent any possible further breach of the peace, and they can use "reasonable force" to do that.

In this case the guy was asked to turn around as he was arrested but refused, so he was forced to kneel, he was cuffed on one hand only and then sat there for a while arguing about the whole thing. I think by that stage he knew he was strawberry floated so finally stopped yelling.

I think angry man yelling at a police woman was relevant too, as it's basically an easier target. This did quickly become two women police officers and he didn't back down. So at each stage of these escalations an officer would have decided they needed help to cope with this person. When a third officer arrived he still wouldn't give up his fight so then he was arrested. Like, you'd have to be there to understand the whole thing but it's kind of remarkable someone was able to dig their heels in that deep over a cordon. Had they nothing else to do?

The guy insisted they weren't police, they were, they had police written on their backs in hi vis, they were not PCSOs, they were just wearing the women's uniform with the bowler hat and checkered strip. This guy didn't recognise a women's police uniform. I found that pretty funny. They're not real police officers! Yes they are, you just only recognise a male police officer. :fp:

I still feel bad about what happened to him, but I was relieved he went away one way or another, shame he got arrested but hey I'm neither the police nor the one arguing with them relentlessly about a plastic ribbon that happens to be in my way one day for a couple of hours.

You could tell he was trying to back pedal after calming down by suggesting to the officers that they wouldn't want to fill out all the paperwork to arrest, charge, detain and release him. :lol: The guy wasn't totally stupid, it was quite funny. I'm not sure they'd want someone yelling at them continuously either. It was such a strawberry floating non issue I'm still struggling to get my head around what happened. His anger got the better of him.

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PostRe: The Weather Mk. II
by Oblomov Boblomov » Mon May 16, 2022 8:52 am

Delhi suffers at 49C as heatwave sweeps India

An intense heatwave is sweeping through northern India with temperatures hitting a record 49.2C (120.5F) in parts of the capital, Delhi.

This is the fifth heatwave in the capital since March.

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Average maximum temperatures for the month were the highest in 122 years.


This would honestly be one of my worst nightmares :dread: those poor people.

Humans are going to have to start migrating away from the equator over the next decade. This is going to be a very big problem. We are absolutely strawberry floated, aren't we :(.

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PostRe: The Weather Mk. II
by Vermilion » Mon May 16, 2022 10:42 am

Had some pretty intense thunder & lightning here last night, trouble was, i'd had a long day and was too tired to crawl out of bed to go and watch.

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by OrangeRKN » Mon May 16, 2022 10:44 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Humans are going to have to start migrating away from the equator over the next decade. This is going to be a very big problem. We are absolutely strawberry floated, aren't we :(.



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by Moggy » Mon May 16, 2022 10:44 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Delhi suffers at 49C as heatwave sweeps India

An intense heatwave is sweeping through northern India with temperatures hitting a record 49.2C (120.5F) in parts of the capital, Delhi.

This is the fifth heatwave in the capital since March.

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Average maximum temperatures for the month were the highest in 122 years.


This would honestly be one of my worst nightmares :dread: those poor people.

Humans are going to have to start migrating away from the equator over the next decade. This is going to be a very big problem. We are absolutely strawberry floated, aren't we :(.


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Read that Mail article if you want to truly despair.

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by Tomous » Mon May 16, 2022 10:47 am

Moggy wrote:Read that Mail article if you want to truly despair.



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by Moggy » Mon May 16, 2022 10:50 am

Tomous wrote:
Moggy wrote:Read that Mail article if you want to truly despair.



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Oh you really should. It makes the characters in the movie Don't Look Up look intelligent.

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PostRe: The Weather Mk. II
by floydfreak » Wed May 18, 2022 11:46 pm

Been a lot lightening tonight around the south and London area

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by Grumpy David » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:03 pm

Hot for the next few days (32c in London expected for Friday) and raining most of the weekend. :x

Most of Europe's heatwave has already started. Madrid and Seville. :dread:

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PostRe: The Weather Mk. II
by jawa_ » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:00 pm

It's time.

The struggle is real.

It's too hot... and tomorrow is gonna be hotter... and... Friday... oh boy :dread: .

Roll on autumn :toot: .

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by Jenuall » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:07 pm

This week has been spot on for me, pretty much perfect conditions. If it could just stay like this for 2-3 months that would be great! :toot:

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by Outrunner » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:13 pm

It's awful. I did my food shop tonight to avoid the heat. Fortunately I can spend the next two days in the house in front of the fan. RIP my electricity bill though :dread: . I don't even have the sweet sweet release of autumn/winter to look forward to this year.

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by Xeno » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:19 pm

Outrunner wrote: RIP my electricity bill though :dread:


This is gonna be an issue for so many people this summer. Broil in your own sweat or get a huge leccy bill.

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PostRe: The Weather Mk. II
by Outrunner » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:28 pm

Xeno wrote:
Outrunner wrote: RIP my electricity bill though :dread:


This is gonna be an issue for so many people this summer. Broil in your own sweat or get a huge leccy bill.


Yeah, I'm not here during the winter this year but generally my electricity bill is higher during the summer than the winter. I'm dreading to see how much I'll be spending this summer.

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by darksideby182 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:38 pm

A fan for house use will use no electricity compared to trying to heat your home come winter.

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PostRe: The Weather Mk. II
by Squinty » Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:02 am

Thought it was warm yesterday morning, but the rest of the day was just grey.

I'm wearing three layers today and I'm comfortable.


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