The Work Thread 2 - Get back to work!

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by Ecno » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:38 am

blackoutHERO wrote:Do you guys think taxed medical insurance through work is worth it? Can get it for free but it gets added onto my salary by £750 or something so it's technically not free? I don't get it.


The premium counts as additional remuneration, so you 'pay' your marginal tax rate 20/40/45% as additional tax. I can't remember whether NI applies as well.

So if you are a 20% tax payer receiving £1,500 per month net if you take the health insurance you will end up receiving about £1,488 in cash instead.

I guess the way to think of it is would you be willing to be your marginal rate x £750 for private health insurance if it wasn't free from your company?

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by Memento Mori » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:00 pm

A client who I signed less than a year ago has emailed a colleague asking for a contract because they want to use our service. It's the exact same woman who I had multiple emails and calls with during the contract negotiation phase.

They've been paying the fees for almost a year!

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PostRe: The Work Thread 2 - Get back to work!
by Tomous » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:09 pm

Sweet, get them to sign a second contract, double revenue :cool:

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by Zilnad » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:31 pm

What a strawberry floating gooseberry fool show.

Apparently the interviewer was adamant to her director that she wanted to hire me for the job but the director changed their mind about working from home and would only let me have the job if I agreed to go into the office at least two days a week.

It was 100 strawberry floating miles away.

strawberry floating complete waste of time and all that stress and anxiety suffered was for nothing. Told the agency I'm wanting to move pretty quickly now so hopefully something will come along.

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by Tomous » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:36 pm

Sorry to hear that mate.

Extremely frustrating that they changed the terms at the last minute. At least you have the confidence boost of knowing you were their pick but circumstances outside your control meant it didn't work out.

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by Jenuall » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:39 pm

Yeah hard though it is the best thing is to take the (very clear) positives out of this - you obviously interviewed well and will be able to go into the next opportunity that comes up with the confidence that you were the first choice for these guys

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by That's not a growth » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:44 pm

That's a shame, but like the others said that's certainly the most positive way you can be rejected in terms of future opportunities. Hopefully won't be too long until the recruiter finds the next role for you, and you smash that one as well.

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by Drumstick » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:45 pm

Hard luck mate.

One man should not have this much power in this game. Luckily I'm not an ordinary man.
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by Oblomov Boblomov » Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:01 pm

Commiserations :( hopefully something else comes along quickly.

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by Zilnad » Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:08 pm

Thanks guys. I'll try and remember how well this one went when the next one comes along but I'll probably end up being just as stressed either way :dread:

I just hope I can get through work until then as every day feels like I'm on the edge of going postal. But that might just have been the carrot of hope messing with my head.

Guess I better accept I'll be going through that appraisal next month, huh :x

"Where have you gone above and beyond for the company"

Well I worked from home while on annual leave at the same time I was supposed to be caring for my wife who had just gone through surgery as part of her cancer treatment.

The director still thinks he did me a massive favour for letting me work from home that time (before the pandemic) so it's getting thrown right back in his face now.

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by Victor Mildew » Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:15 pm

That's gooseberry fool you didn't get it. Sounds like the director made that 2 days a week a thing as he had no other valid reason not to give you the job (probably privately promised it to the other person or knows them personally).

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by satriales » Wed Apr 07, 2021 3:22 pm

blackoutHERO wrote:Do you guys think taxed medical insurance through work is worth it? Can get it for free but it gets added onto my salary by £750 or something so it's technically not free? I don't get it.

I used to have Vitality health insurance through work. It was worth it the first year as I run a lot and that got me extra discounts at certain retailers that covered the cost of the insurance.

Then the second year they doubled my premium for no reason. I was healthier than ever so I cancelled out of principal.

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by Green Gecko » Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:44 pm

So, I'm not gonna get my first VAT return done on time (by, like, half a day). What a surprise.

Looked it up and for turnover of less than £150,000 ( :slol: ) the penalty is... nothing. You get a "polite letter" asking you to submit it. I'll just keep grinding through Xero until its done then. You do however need to submit the next one on time or you enter the "surcharge system".

Even if I were to pay a penalty it's only a % of the tax I owe (the VAT I've charged). I don't owe anything because in the period for the return I've paid several fold what I've charged in VAT, because I've only had to charge VAT for like, a few weeks. I only registered about a month ago, but still they only went and set up my first return for 4 strawberry floating years due within 60 days, which is not very long to go back and recode every single strawberry floating expense as a VATable expense. It varies too (it's not just claim 20% on everything), some Royal Mail delivery services are 20% VAT, whereas stamps (even if its purchased as the equivalent service online) are VAT exempt. Kid's T-shirts are 0% whereas everything else is 20%. Domestic power is 5% whereas power on business premises is 20%. So many fun little oddities like this to research for strawberry floating days).

I also have to find the European VAT IDs for anyone I've imported from, and attempt to find valid VAT invoices (that normally don't exist, never get issued properly by websites, and have to be pieced together, so I'm trying to claim them anyway by just keeping a record of the VAT number in the accounts). It's way harder than it needs to be to find the suppliers who actually sold you the thing, if they sold that thing through a marketplace or a subsidiary (possibly of an international conglomerate). Then there's the brexit transition period in the middle of that, at which point (31 Jan according to some, 31 Dec according to others) I should have been charged 0% VAT from overseas included Ireland, EU states etc, but probably was charged 20% anyway. :dread:

It's worth it because I'll get a couple of grand back but strawberry float me is it complicated the first time around. If I didn't have my statements and sales/expenses etc recorded essentially in a web browser already, alongside which I can find old invoices, receipts via email etc in separate tabs, this could well and truly strawberry float off. The people who still do a paper return and print off everything, or use a strawberry floating cash book, and do VAT accounting :dread: I bet they exist and are some kind of pen and paper machine.
Zilnad wrote:What a strawberry floating gooseberry fool show.

Apparently the interviewer was adamant to her director that she wanted to hire me for the job but the director changed their mind about working from home and would only let me have the job if I agreed to go into the office at least two days a week.

It was 100 strawberry floating miles away.

strawberry floating complete waste of time and all that stress and anxiety suffered was for nothing. Told the agency I'm wanting to move pretty quickly now so hopefully something will come along.

Having been on Xero for about 5 years now, I'm deeply sorry you won't be able to discover the joys of Find & Recode and updates that, well, there are no updates, it's always up to date. Sure there's bugs sometimes, having to re-enter this thing, or this value changes for some reason (usually going back and correcting historical records like I am now and reclassifying their tax), but the software has never really strawberry floated up any of my work and that's impressive considering how long I've been using it and it's all got to work 100% remotely on some server somewhere that I don't have to worry about crashing or corrupting.

Automatic PayPal import sucks if you're not on the multi-currency package though, thanks to PayPal dicking around with multiple currencies rather than just converting everything you get paid into GBP if you get paid or have to pay in USD for some reason (like a normal British bank will).

My statements and accounts haven't reconciled for strawberry floating years though (it doesn't matter because my profit/loss statement is still correct and that's the only report I actually need) so I'm probably going to archive the whole organisation and start a new one for this tax year, once I've submitted this, and start fresh.

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PostRe: The Work Thread 2 - Get back to work!
by Oblomov Boblomov » Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:13 pm

The Guardian: The evidence is in: working from home is a failed experiment

Unfortunately, the work from home trend is too strong to resist. That’s because there’s this illusion of more independence, flexibility and control over one’s life which is probably why 70% of the workers who participated in the Microsoft survey, despite all their concerns, still desire some type of flexible work options in the future.


It's over, everyone. Pack your bags and get back to the office! Stop moaning about your lost flexibility, it was only ever an illusion anyway!

Make sure to read "study after study" that proves this has been a failed experiment. Just ignore the fact the studies use data originally published in 2017 – that's merely a minor, irrelevant detail.

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by That's not a growth » Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:16 am

Work says they're going to send out this year's 'annual' medical questionnaire, after missing a few years. I've worked here for 6 years and it's never been a thing from what I can remember.

How normal is this? My instinct is to tell them it's none of their business and I'll let them as and when I have something i think concerns them, but am I over reacting?

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by Zilnad » Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:06 am

I had to fill one in when I started at this place. It was the first time I'd ever seen one and I agree, I don't think it's any of their business. It was very personal and far too detailed for just normal office work.

Probably best to check your contract and see if it's mentioned there. A quick Google says employers can't ask for medical information before offering a job but I guess that means they can ask for it as soon as an offer is made?

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by Jenuall » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:16 am

I've never had to do a medical questionnaire for work and agree that it seems invasive. I guess it depends to an extent what level of information they are interested in, and obviously in some lines of work medical knowledge about employees is probably essential, but for most things I'd be wary

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by Zilnad » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:19 am

The one I was asked to fill out went in to as much detail as how many units of alcohol you drank on a weekly basis.

I filled it out because I didn't have a job at the time and needed work but I'll never fill one out voluntarily again. It's completely unnecessary for your standard office environment.

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by Jenuall » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:40 am

"How many units of alcohol do you drink?"

Depends on how often I can get out with the ladz, oi oi!!!!


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by Zilnad » Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:48 pm

Considering I work 9-5, the director just text me asking for some sales figures. In fairness, I do normally send them over on a Friday but today, although I had them drafted and ready, I forgot to hit send before I finished for the day.

And I'm strawberry floating seeing red. I logged back on and sent them over just to avoid the hassle but why it couldn't have just waited until first thing Monday is beyond me.

Don't you dare strawberry floating contact me when I'm not at work. You don't pay me a salary for that and I'm not on call. And if it's deadly important, you have access to the accounts yourself. You're the finance director.

I haven't even replied to his message because I'm so angry that anything I say would only make the situation worse. Like "quit on the spot" worse.

On its own, it wouldn't be such a problem but I'm at a breaking point with this banana split company.

Five strawberry floating grand bonus each. Piece of gooseberry fool banana splits.


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