The Work Thread 2 - Get back to work!

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by That's not a growth » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:51 pm

Is there any sort of service where you can talk to someone about career advice? I don't have any friends or family that know about the kind of work I do, and I don't have any 1-1s or appraisal at work or meetings with anyone about how I'm doing - and there's no progression opportunities. I look for jobs online, but I don't find many I think I can do, and I barely get any interviews of those that I do apply for.

There's certain parts I enjoy, and I want to try and find a job that involves that more - but I just want someone I can talk to honestly about what I do, what I feel my skills and weaknesses are, where I want to be, and what I might need to do to get there. Is there anything like that?

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by idiolekt » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:59 pm

considering that one of the main motivators for originally quitting my job last year was their insistence on a return to full-time office work, I'm not at all bothered about having to go into the office every day in this new role, and am actually enjoying having a bit more structure to my days. not sure how much that'll change once everybody else starts coming in full-time as well, though...

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by Drumstick » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:26 pm

That's not a growth wrote:Is there any sort of service where you can talk to someone about career advice?

Recruitment firms can help you figure some of that out. Clarkman may be able to assist.

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by Zilnad » Thu Jun 17, 2021 8:48 pm

In my experience, recruitment firms care very little, if at all, about you. It's all money to them and you're a commodity to be pawned off for their benefit. Although they'll get him a job, it's probably not the kind of help TNAG is looking for.

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by Dual » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:14 pm

That's not a growth wrote:Is there any sort of service where you can talk to someone about career advice? I don't have any friends or family that know about the kind of work I do, and I don't have any 1-1s or appraisal at work or meetings with anyone about how I'm doing - and there's no progression opportunities. I look for jobs online, but I don't find many I think I can do, and I barely get any interviews of those that I do apply for.

There's certain parts I enjoy, and I want to try and find a job that involves that more - but I just want someone I can talk to honestly about what I do, what I feel my skills and weaknesses are, where I want to be, and what I might need to do to get there. Is there anything like that?


Recruitment agency who specialise in your industry.

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by That's not a growth » Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:45 pm

I was under the impression what Zilnad said was true - they would just try to find a job that I fit in. Not actually have an in depth, honest, conservation about my career goals and what I might need to do to achieve them, even if it meant training etc. I figured I would have to approach a conversation with a recruiter like a job application and sell myself, which is the opposite to what kind of conversation I want to have.

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by Drumstick » Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:17 pm

Perhaps it depends on the recruiter? I can only base it on my experience, which was a conversation about my strengths and what kind of work I was looking for.

You said you wanted to do more of the work you enjoyed - a recruiter can help with that. The career aspirations bit you'll probably want a mentor for, which you could find in a new employer once you start a new post doing the stuff you like.

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by Victor Mildew » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:34 am

I found recruiters to be utterly strawberry floating useless for a creative. Couldn't give less of a toss about what it is a do, you'd spend ages with them running through your portfolio and so on, only for them to turn around and say "if you find anything, let me know and I'll talk to them".

Didn't get a single lead from any of them. Utter shower of bastards.

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by Qikz » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:20 pm

A client I've worked with for over 5 years, most of which in person has spent the last 5 years thinking I was Scottish and only found out I wasn't today when he said if Scotland loses I should lie low or people will take the mick; leading to me being confused and him saying wait, you're Scottish right? :lol:

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by Dual » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:20 pm

Wait, you're not Scottish?

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by Victor Mildew » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:22 pm

I could have sworn you were scotch :?

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by Zilnad » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:32 pm

Then what was all that caber tossing about?

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by That's not a growth » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:38 pm

From April:

That's not a growth wrote:So I'm overseeing a complex React App that's being planned, that is an adaptation of a clients proof-of-concept static-site (that's a bit like a catalogue) to make it dynamic and template driven where their end customers can update content in the catalogue through a web interface. It will end up generating thousands of pages on each instance of the app - and the app is going to be deployed to thousands of locations on touch screens, each with their own different content.
We need to build the React app, with dozens of templates, an API that links a CMS and our content-updating front end, and our content updating front-end to simplify updating thousands of pages for the end-customers.

I need to plan how long this is going to take to build, by working with our developer and build a bit of a forecast so we know how much the charge the client and how many people we need to hire to meet a certain deadline.

I've been generally working on prototypes with our developer one and off for the last year - as we're never really allowed to work on this project, as 'more important' things keep turning up. Until two weeks ago, and the client asked for this quote/forecast.

I asked for a few weeks to figure it, so I could work around the rest of my workload, and after 2 weeks my manager got sick of waiting and just pulled a number out of the air to try and gauge the clients appetite for a rough number. While I'm ok with this being used just for that purpose, they still want a more precise figure for if they're still ok with this initial value. I feel I've actually made solid progress and probably only needed about another 2-3 days, but he's really annoyed it's taken me so long already and is amazed I can't get it done in a few hours. Bare in mind we've never done anything like this before, so the dev and I are breaking it into rough stages, and then trying to figure out how long each of those take based on his prototypes.

We were also talking about how involved I would be once the project kicks off - we would need to actually decide on the various milestones and be specific on features that are to be built, as well as wireframe the front end and figure out how we want to structure the relationships of data in the back end so it can scale in a way that compatible with the CMS. I said it would probably take up more than half of my time for the first month of so, and then get less involved once all the major parts were figured out. My manger was exacerbated at this, expecting me to give it a day or so a week, and then asked can't the developer just figure out all this. His analogy being "if I have to build a wall, I just plan it out all myself and do it, why does it require so much of your time?".

I need a new job.


Looks like project will be kicking off. But having to argue to get time to plan it, they just want the dev to start and questioning why I need to be involved at all. They want him to just manage himself, essentially, and just start building.

And there was me looking to buy a home, and now I'm thinking of just quitting. strawberry float sake.

EDIT: I've calmed down a lot, and spoke with the dev and helped give him some information to just start planning things in the background so we can be in the best place possible. Guess I'll see what happens.

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by Qikz » Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:29 pm

Work today is so busy, I went from having 13 tickets to being on 36 today. It's gaaaaaaarbage.

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by KingK » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:32 pm

I've spent the day reconciling my spreadsheet record of external supplier invoices versus an internal Finance dept created spreadsheet view of the same thing, only with accruals and reversing accruals.

That was fun.

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by Green Gecko » Tue Jun 22, 2021 4:56 pm

Does anyone working professionally in accounting actually use software that basically does this stuff for you?

Or are only the practice owners / head of head of accountants of subaccountants allowed to use the fancy software?

I can't imagine how much this world depends on creaky as strawberry float, made up as we go along, incongruous spreadsheets. strawberry float spreadsheets man.

Don't remind me of any time I've had to open a csv and manually reformat values and shift or remove columns though. Which you have to do interfacing from time to time between systems that won't talk.

Maybe I really am saving money on accounting. Cloud enterprise accounting for a micro business FTW

That said, costs me £30 a month which after a few heads is well over a grand... Not the worst investment I've made made.

But yeah reconciliation is super fun especially when your own strawberry floating bank introduces duplicate account lines.

I just create spend matched to bank feed, upload invoice, assign account and tax rate and move onto the next line. If you're a machine you can do that until the cows come home.

And you can do batch stuff too if you like.

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by Lagamorph » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:30 pm

Remember when the government Covid database was literally just an Excel spreadsheet that broke because they hit the limit of how many rows an Excel spreadsheet can have?

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by Green Gecko » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:48 pm

Omg yes :lol:

What is software. Is that Microsoft? Winware? Does it come with paint?

I guess the downside is I depend on just another kind of proprietary, locked in (although I can easily download all of my account journals and go from there), monthly overhead etc. But gooseberry fool works, it's basically always available. All you need is some random local server or router to go down and you can't work. I can't think of a single time this has actually happened to me.

And Jesus imagine if all of that went up in flames and I don't have my statutory records to show HMRC if needed. All because I wanted to use excel 2003 or whatever and back it up on USB sticks, instead of engage with purchasing manager who can pay £30 a month. Now that is a strawberry floating disaster.

Anyway tldr I am so right and I am still sorry for anyone who has to work with spreadsheets for 99% of the business tasks. I said never again after doing SEO keyword research for months and creating various systems via manual data entry and fancy conditional colour coding other stuff that looked nice but really wasn't much better than paper and was just very early data prototyping / systems analysis /working processes stuff. I swear I started hallucinating at some point.

Yeah, big nope.

I will make one recommendation for hundreds, or thousands of lines of data though. I always had and used (and now have newer) mini version of logitech mx mouse with the hyper scroll wheel on a ball bearing. Whips up and down a Web page or spreadsheet or whatever in seconds.

And a monitor configurable in portrait.

Otherwise yeah have fun in scrolling hell. These are sub £200 adjustments any accountant or someone else working with big amounts of data deserve. I would argue that are obligatory under occupational health / health and safety laws these days because RSI (together with strawberry floated eyes) is not worth it.

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by Zilnad » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:45 pm

I realise I'm still in the honeymoon period but I'm loving my new job and the people in my team :wub: :msgreen:

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by That's not a growth » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:52 pm

You make me sick


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