The Wrestling Thread III

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT
by captain red dog » Thu May 16, 2019 3:41 pm

Floex wrote:As a nostalgia bump :datass:

But who in their right mind wants to be compared to the dumpster fire brand that is WCW these days :lol:

Well I think WCW in its dying days was still a better program that Raw and Smackdown is presently. I don't think we really appreciate just how poor the current product is. It's worse than Nitro in my opinion as at least stuff happened on Nitro. The last memorable thing I can remember on Raw was the Festival of Friendship and I just googled it and that was back in 2017. It feels like nothing of note has happened since then. I've kept up to date with Raw based on YouTube clips alone for the last 2 years and nothing at all has really captured my attention.

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by Mafro » Thu May 16, 2019 4:01 pm

Dangerblade wrote:Also I realise he's in the twilight of his career and I've never seen him in his prime but Taguchi is just...garbage to me

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT
by KK » Thu May 16, 2019 4:52 pm

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Mafro wrote:Sounds like WWE rights are moving to BT.


Wow just wow. That would surely hurt wwe significantly.

Really is the end of an era, spanning The Sky Channel in the 80s (which my parents used to record onto VHS for a neighbour), Sky1 in '89 and early 90s, Sky Movies (UK Rampage, SummerSlam 91 and 92) and of course Sky Sports...

Realistically WWE really should now be on free-to-air because if you're a UK fan without a pay TV subscription you've likely got AEW on ITV, IMPACT WRESTLING on 5 and MLW on Freesports, while WWE has now just made itself even more niche. The audience share for BT Sports is awful.

Virgin Media and BT customers will be pleased though as it's considerably cheaper than Sky Sports, but on the downside, BT Sport still isn't sold separately like Sky Sports via NowTV, and is incredibly expensive for Sky customers (£30 a month).

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by Mafro » Thu May 16, 2019 5:11 pm

Apparently BT are losing the FA Cup rights to ITV so I guess they're not exactly short of cash. Wonder how much they're paying for it vs Sky.

Would love to be a fly on the wall in Vince's office with this plus the AEW news.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT
by Jam-Master Jay » Thu May 16, 2019 5:13 pm

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Floex wrote:As a nostalgia bump :datass:

But who in their right mind wants to be compared to the dumpster fire brand that is WCW these days :lol:

Well I think WCW in its dying days was still a better program that Raw and Smackdown is presently. I don't think we really appreciate just how poor the current product is. It's worse than Nitro in my opinion as at least stuff happened on Nitro. The last memorable thing I can remember on Raw was the Festival of Friendship and I just googled it and that was back in 2017. It feels like nothing of note has happened since then. I've kept up to date with Raw based on YouTube clips alone for the last 2 years and nothing at all has really captured my attention.


Perhaps it's me looking back with rose-tinted specs, but I remember the Cruiserweight and US title scene being decent until the end. The Heavyweight scene was an utter shitshow though with David Arquette of all people winning the title and the nWo reforming for what felt like the 50th time.

Although I haven't watched WWE in years I've seen that the roster is full of talent so it's a shame to hear the product is still so stale. Maybe I'll check it out on BT Sport but I'll probably just get annoyed and watch AEW.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by PES Fan » Thu May 16, 2019 5:43 pm

Not really surprised. The way Sky have been moving it around at times for other programming in the last few months just suggests they didn’t care about it much. They got Basketball now for late night programming. But that’s still a lot of programming to fill.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by KK » Thu May 16, 2019 6:26 pm

It certainly leaves a massive hole on Sky Sports Action, Arena and Mix, which were already looking barebones.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Sky dropped the current format and just returned to Sky Sports 1 to 4.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by PES Fan » Thu May 16, 2019 7:20 pm

KK wrote:It certainly leaves a massive hole on Sky Sports Action, Arena and Mix, which were already looking barebones.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Sky dropped the current format and just returned to Sky Sports 1 to 4.


Don’t they sell all the sports separately? So can’t see them doing that.

They probably scrap one of action or arena.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by captain red dog » Thu May 16, 2019 7:24 pm

I can't see Sky being too bothered. Viewing figures for WWE are dreadful, there is now free to air competition out there and I can't imagine the PPV business is worth the hassle.

Probably worth it for BT as they can pick up a few hardcore subscribers and get a bit of promotion out of it.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by KK » Thu May 16, 2019 7:59 pm

Maybe a discount on the WWE Network will be offered for BT TV/Broadband customers.

Hopefully there’s no bullshit like there was with Sky and Main Event, like NXT UK leaving or being delayed on the Network and moving to BT Sport.

Will be interesting to find out how much BT are paying for it considering how bad the ratings currently are on Sky (even adding all the 1 hour, 2 hour and 3 hour showings together, most weeks WWE RAW doesn’t even hit 100,000 viewers, let alone SmackDown). If the rights fees are too low it would probably indicate Sky really lowballed them with their offer.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT
by NBK » Thu May 16, 2019 8:19 pm

Minty14 wrote:Sho/Shingo is in my top 5 for the year so far, loved it.


That was fantastic. It caught me by surprise because I'm not that familiar with either of them.

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Also I realise he's in the twilight of his career and I've never seen him in his prime but Taguchi is just...garbage to me


Yeah, his inclusion in the main event was something else that surprised me. I'd only seen him in a few matches and always thought he was a comedy wrestler, but then they started reeling off all his past accolades and I was like "what happened?".

Interesting what one of the commentators said about other wrestlers being annoyed when he doesn't have a 'proper' match, I can see quite a lot of truth in that.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by Dangerblade » Thu May 16, 2019 11:02 pm

New fav: Osprey vs. Romero

Romero still got it, such a nice guy too.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by Corazon de Leon » Fri May 17, 2019 7:43 am

Ashley Massaro is dead. 39 years old.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by Mafro » Fri May 17, 2019 3:23 pm


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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by KK » Fri May 17, 2019 3:31 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:Ashley Massaro is dead. 39 years old.

Matt Hardy’s wife’s reaction to this news on social media was disgusting. Rather than just say nothing she posted a smiling and kiss emoji, amongst other derogatory things.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by Corazon de Leon » Fri May 17, 2019 4:48 pm

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Corazon de Leon wrote:Ashley Massaro is dead. 39 years old.

Matt Hardy’s wife’s reaction to this news on social media was disgusting. Rather than just say nothing she posted a smiling and kiss emoji, amongst other derogatory things.


What the hell, why?

EDIT: Googled it. Pathetic.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by KK » Fri May 17, 2019 5:08 pm

The vast majority of ratings for the current run of SmackDown on Sky:

WWE SmackDownLIVE (1am-3am) UK ratings - including TV set and delayed viewing (28 days)

19th July 2016 (Sky Sports 5) - SmackDown debuts its Live edition: 65,000
26th July 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 112,000
2nd August 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 46,000
9th August 2016: (Sky Sports 5): 45,000
16th August 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 65,000
30th August 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 62,000
6th September 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 45,000
13th September 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 59,000
20th September 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 41,000
27th September 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 48,000
4th October 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 68,000
11th October 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 34,000
18th October 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 42,000
25th October 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 52,000
1st November 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 59,000
8th November 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 34,000
15th November 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 105,000
22nd November 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 66,000
29th November 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 55,000
6th December 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 54,000
13th December 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 45,000
20th December 2016 (Sky Sports 5): 30,000
27th December 2016 (Sky Sports 4): 46,000
3rd January 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 41,000
10th January 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 33,000
17th January 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 77,000
24th January 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 55,000
31st January 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 32,000
7th February 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 41,000
14th February 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 36,000
21st February 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 62,000
28th February 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 54,000
7th March 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 38,000
14th March 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 39,000
21st March 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 60,000
28th March 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 33,000
11th April 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 57,000
2nd May 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 34,000
9th May 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 41,000
23rd May 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 41,000
30th May 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 38,000
6th June 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 33,000
13th June 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 32,000
20th June 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 23,000
27th June 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 37,000
4th July 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 32,000
11th July 2017 (Sky Sports 5): 37,000
18th July 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 21,000
1st August 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 19,000
8th August 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 35,000
15th August 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 34,000
22nd August 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 29,000
29th August 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 26,000
5th September 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 34,000
12th September 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 29,000
19th September 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 34,000
26th September 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 16,000
3rd October 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 21,000
10th October 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 18,000
17th October 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 24,000
24th October 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 17,000
31st October 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 22,000
7th November 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 41,000
21st November 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 49,000
28th November 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 47,000
5th December 2017 (Sky Sports Arena): 19,000
19th December 2017 (Sky Sports Action): 59,000
2nd January 2018 (Sky Sports Action): 29,000
9th January 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 37,000
16th January 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 19,000
23rd January 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 29,000
30th January 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 35,000
6th February 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 24,000
20th February 2018 (Sky Sports Action): 15,000
27th February 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 60,000
6th March 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 27,000
13th March 2018 (Sky Sports Action): 28,000
20th March 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 30,000
27th March 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 21,000
3rd April 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 35,000
10th April 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 74,000
17th April 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 28,000
24th April 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 15,000
29th May 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 56,000
12th June 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 65,000
19th June 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 53,000
26th June 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 59,000
3rd July 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 69,000
10th July 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 83,000
17th July 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 27,000
24th July 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 60,000
1st August 2018 (Sky Sports Action): 39,000
7th August 2018 (Sky Sports Action: 65,000
14th August 2018 (Sky Sports Action): 84,000
21st August 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 46,000

WWE SmackDownLIVE (1am-3am) UK ratings - including TV set, tablet, smartphones and PC

28th August 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 56,873
4th September 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 33,797
11th September 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 47,174
18th September 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 47,500
25th September 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 70,048
2nd October 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 51,000
9th October 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 44,681
16th October 2018 - 1000th episode (Sky Sports Action): 92,277
23rd October 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 66,400
28th October 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 23,333
5th November 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 56,895
13th November 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 47,572
18th November 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 46,740
27th November 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 22,700
4th December 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 65,493
11th December 2018 (Sky Sports Arena): 63,400
18th December 2018 (Sky Sports Action): 37,166
Delayed Boxing Day 2018 airing (Sky Sports Mix, 10pm): 32,512
New Year's Day 2019 (Sky Sports Action): 23,100
8th January 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 50,639
15th January 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 67,700
22nd January 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 58,680
29th January 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 70,208
5th February 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 34,900
12th February 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 55,498
19th February 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 54,848
26th February 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 49,300
5th March 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 25,475
12th March 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 28,933
19th March 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 61,016
2nd April 2019 (Sky Sports Action): 55,413
9th April 2019 (Sky Sports Mix): 70,225
16th April 2019 (Sky Sports Arena): 46,600

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by Mafro » Fri May 17, 2019 6:43 pm



Braw. If anyone is signing up to FiteTV with a new account you can use my referral code :shifty: 6m9qm15

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by Prototype » Sun May 19, 2019 8:13 am

Mafro wrote:

Braw. If anyone is signing up to FiteTV with a new account you can use my referral code :shifty: 6m9qm15


Did you get my 10 dollars?

:slol: I'm at 47 dollars. Need another 3 new signup for free starrcast :datass:

Have been getting work mates who have no interest in any combat sports to join. Quite clever marketing tbh

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread III: AEW announce partnership with TNT; WWE moving to BT Sport
by Floex » Sun May 19, 2019 8:50 am

PAC Vs Page no longer happening due to “creative differences” :(

Turns out some others advertised on the card might not be there either... WCW lives!


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