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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Zellery » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:20 pm

I think Matt Hardy's terrible outfit has been completely swept under the sea of Wrestlemania hate.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Pontius Pilate » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:31 pm

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He should be proud of himself!

Taker and HBK was a classic, just like most HBK matches. I thought Taker was really hurt, and I thought HBK had broke his arm too!

Hardy's match was okie, as was MITB. The rest was a bit mediocre. All in all, I enjoyed the event though, mostly because I was on a sugar rush though :lol:

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Cropolite » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:34 pm

Zellery wrote:I think Matt Hardy's terrible outfit has been completely swept under the sea of Wrestlemania hate.

Wasn't that bad, although it did highlight how out of shape he's gotten lately.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by sw26 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:40 pm

Cropolite wrote:
Zellery wrote:I think Matt Hardy's terrible outfit has been completely swept under the sea of Wrestlemania hate.

Wasn't that bad, although it did highlight how out of shape he's gotten lately.


His hairline is almost half way down the back of his head now too.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Raedus » Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:46 pm

Watched this live with about 9 mates, great atmosphere and i really enjoyed it.

However, in the cold hard light of a sober morning i have the following thoughts:

JBL, what a gooseberry fool squash. Been hearing rumours he's leaving soon anyway due to his back playing up, if that really is his final
match it was a terrible way to go.

Taker vs JBK. Great stuff, as expected taker won, that dive looked sore as strawberry float though.

Orton vs HHH. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWN.

Im glad punk won, im a big fan of his, lets hope they actually go somewhere with him this time other than bigging him up for 2 months then dropping him like a bad smell.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Psychic » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:20 pm

YouSmellOfWee wrote:
WEARGH?! says:
"press X NOW to reverse!"
WEARGH?! says:
"press B NOW to reverse!"
paul. says:
clearly.
Rich says:
Use the special counter!
paul. says:
is his momentum bar filled?
David says:
wtf
HN says:
hot tag now
WEARGH?! says:
SMACKDOWN BAR FULL
Rich says:
TauntTauntTauntTauntTauntTauntTauntTaunt
Rich says:
Steal finisher


:lol:


:lol:

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: WrestleMania 25 (Results page 1)
by Adam Pollard » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:22 pm

Drumstick wrote:
KKLEIN wrote:I feel sorry for the Yanks who had to pay $65 for this.

strawberry floating hell, what a rip off that is.


That was the price for the HD broadcast, standard def was just $55, which is still rape.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Balloon Sod » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:36 pm

I really enjoyed that PPV. Although Maffew of Botchamania is going to have a field day.

The main event was a very strange match, that I enjoyed right up until the last 10 minutes. Triple H is a strawberry floating prick, and truly deflates everything.

The crowd didn't care about a face winning. Vince needs a rethink about his policy.

Edit: I swear, someone needs to show Shawn how to do a Figure 4. The way he puts it on has no excitement, because he's never made anyone tap to it, and he grabs the wrong leg. It's as bad as his sharp shooter.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Drumstick » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:49 pm

It is done. It took me a fair while but once I nailed out the order I figured I might as well go through with it. I based it all on a mixture of how good the events were at the time and how they'd stand up today (in my eyes). I've wrote a little about each one in case you get them mixed up, as someone last night did. Also spoilered because it really is far too long.

01) Wrestlemania X-Seven
Pretty sure there's no debating that this is easily the greatest event the WWE has ever, and at this rate, is likely to ever put on. Pretty much every match on the card delivered, despite some not looking up to much before the event. TLC, Angle vs. Benoit, Hardcore Triple Threat, and on top of that it boasts possibly the biggest 'mania match in history for its main event.

02) Wrestlemania XX
The only other 'mania to seriously give X-Seven a run for its money in my opinion. Packed to the brim with quality matches. Two Fatal Four Way tag matches, Christian and Jericho, Evolution going up against the Rock 'n' Sock, Eddie vs. Angle, Undertaker vs. Kane (again), the classic Triple Threat main event and the rather humourous spectacle that was Goldberg vs. Lesnar. Fantastic event.

03) Wrestlemania 2000
I remember in the past a certain KKLEIN has criticised this event for its lack of one-on-one matches, but I really don't think it's a detriment at all. Early in the card we have the very entertaining Hardcore Battle Royal, followed by TLC I, Angle, Jericho and Benoit battling for the two belts, and the huge Fatal Four Way main event with a McMahon in every corner.

04) Wrestlemania XIX
As I said earlier, it's perhaps not the strongest card on paper but it was a very solid event. The egomaniacal Chris Jericho going up against his idol Shawn Michaels, Hogan vs. McMahon in the Street Fight, Austin vs. Rock III, and the Angle/Lesnar main event which surpassed expectations.

05) Wrestlemania X
I certainly feel that out of the first ten events this is the best. It starts off which possibly the best pure wrestling match Wrestlemania has ever seen, when Bret Hart squares up with his brother Owen in a stone cold classic. It's followed up with a Falls Count Anywhere match between former friends Randy Savage and Crush, and Yokozuna in his first match of the evening facing Lex Luger with Mr Perfect acting as referee. This is capped off with Shawn Michaels showing his true potential with the iconic Ladder match against Razor Ramon, and Bret Hart finally exacting revenge for his defeat at the hands of Yokozuna a year earlier.

06) Wrestlemania X8
This is another event which I feel is very solid. There's only one match anyone cares remembers from it and it isn't the main event, but it has some very good matches along the way. It opens with RVD vs. Regal which is a short but sweet bout with some great counters, Christian vs. DDP, Edge vs. Booker T, and an ongoing Hardcore match with Undertaker demolishing Ric Flair along the way. It also features a surprisingly brilliant Fatal Four Way tag match for the titles. The main event was not well received but it is more than made up for when The Rock faced Hogan, earlier in the night.

07) Wrestlemania XIV
Another strong event although not as solid as the last entry. It opens with a nice tag team battle royal, and Owen Hart vs. HHH for the European Championship among others. It does however pick up a lot in the second half of the card, with The Rock going up against Shamrock in a repeat of their match at the Royal Rumble, the first Undertaker vs. Kane match, the Dumpster match between the Outlaws and Cactus/Funk, and the main event where the cocky champion Shawn Michaels finally got in to the ring with The Rattlesnake.

08) Wrestlemania IV
Weighing in with a whopping sixteen matches, this was the Macho Man's finest hour or four, winning four matches in one night to claim the then vacant WWF Championship. Considering that about 75% of the card is centred around the tournament for the title there isn't too much else to it. Warrior takes on Hercules, the Bulldogs go down to the Islanders and Demolition attempt to take the tag titles away from Strike Force. The focus is all on Savage though, and ultimately, your feelings towards him will decide how much you like this event.

09) Wrestlemania III
Often cited as one of the best 'manias, I think my placing is fair here. It includes the big main event between Hogan and Andre, and some shorter but nevertheless great matches. The Hart Foundation vs. The British Bulldogs in a great tag bout, Piper vs. Adonis in Hair vs. Hair, and The Dream Team vs. The Fabulous Rougeaus. Of course all of this pales into comparison to the Savage/Steamboat classic which is still frequently ranked among the top matches ever.

10) Wrestlemania VI
I'm going to assume that most people might not be too familiar with this event, but this was the first Wrestlemania I ever watched. So it holds a special place for me and I've probably ranked it higher than anyone else would. The main event is the Champion vs. Champion showdown between the Intercontinental title holder, The Ultimate Warrior, and the then reigning WWF Champion, and the biggest draw in the industry at the time, the Hulkster. Other notable matches include Demolition facing off against The Colossal Connection of Haku and Andre the Giant for the tag belts and The Orient Express battling with The Rockers.

11) Wrestlemania 22
This was a lot higher than I'd anticipated. I don't need to say too much about it, the highlights were MITB, HBK vs. Vince in the Street Fight, and the Hardcore match between Foley and Edge. Picks up a few points for Hunter's comical entrance too. Didn't think much of the main event although it created a great atmosphere.

12) Wrestlemania 21
Some good matches, the original MITB, Angle vs. Michaels, and The Undertaker vs. Randy Orton. A weak main event really counts against it though.

13) Wrestlemania XXIV
I remember quite liking this. The Belfast Brawl and the ever reliable MITB opened things up well, the retirement match was probably one of the matches of the year, and Orton surprised everyone by retaining his title. The Undertaker also finally got to be in the main event again at last after being robbed the year before, and put on a great match with Edge.

14) Wrestlemania 13
This one's pretty good. Decent tag team Fatal Four Way to start with, follow by The Rookie and The Sultan. The main event was pretty dull, but this is countered with the superb Submission match and the always entertaining Chicago Street Fight between The Nation and The Road Warriors/Ahmed.

15) Wrestlemania VIII
This event got something right, less matches which were given a decent amount of time to progress makes for a better show. It's big gimmick was a double main event: Savage coming for Flair's title, and Hogan against Sid. Both are fairly entertaining although it is quite obvious which is the better match. Also on the card is Shawn Michaels vs. Tito Santana with his "flying burrito" as Bobby Heenan puts it, and the great Hart/Piper match for the IC title.

16) Wrestlemania 23
Not bad, but the ECW match was too short and would have been far better as an "extreme rules" match and they had the wrong title bout on last. However both title matches were great which is somewhat rare these days. Elsewhere on the card, there's Money in the Bank and the Hair vs. Hair with Trump and McMahon.

17) Wrestlemania XV
I didn't realise just how weak this event was until I looked at the card, as I hold fond memories of it. It should've been so much better. Hell in a Cell was poor, and the rest of the matches were just plain boring and there was seemingly no chemistry anywhere besides the main event which practically saves it.

18) Wrestlemania VII
This again has some nice matches but is guilty of cramming too many in. The main attractions are the Blindfold match between Jake and The Model, Savage's retirement match with the Warrior which is way better than you'd expect, and the main event of Sgt. Slaughter defending his newly won title against Hogan (yawn).

19) Wrestlemania V
The Mega-Powers explode! This event could have been a lot better, but there's too many short matches which would've worked better if they were given the time needed to make them into proper matches. The best matches include Demolition looking to retain the titles they won the previous year against The Powers of Pain, the Brain Busters against a reforming Strike Force, Rick Rude vs. Ultimate Warrior, and the brilliant main event featuring Savage clashing with Hogan.

20) Wrestlemania XII
Even the Iron Man Match and the highly entertaining Hollywood Backlot Street Brawl can't save this event from being amongst the worst. Undertaker and Diesel is average, Steve Austin vs. Savio Vega is better than it should be, and Camp Cornette's battle against Yoko's crew isn't too bad.

21) Wrestlemania II
I don't the whole "emanating three separate arenas" thing with this event. Seems pointless. There is the Boxing match between Mr. T and Roddy Piper, the Battle Royal, Bulldogs vs. The Dream Team, Steamboat and Hernandez, plus the main event Cage battle between Bundy and Hogan. S'alright.

22) Wrestlemania IX
That's right. I even think the shitstorm that was this event was better than last night's shambolic effort. It starts with a really nice opener between Shawn Michaels and Tatanka and builds to the tag match which sees the Mega Maniacs square off against Money Inc. Undertaker vs. Gonzales was pretty fascinating at the time, and all that's left after that is Hart vs. Yoko... and Hogan again.

23) Wrestlemania XXV
I'm sure everyone remembers this. One good match and a couple of average ones all night is not acceptable. How disappointing.

24) Wrestlemania I
Good for its time perhaps but now it's fairly boring. Lots of naff matches all building up to the main event with Hogan and Mr. T taking on Mr. Wonderful and Piper. Andre and Studd's Body Slam challenge wasn't too bad either.

25) Wrestlemania XI
Proper terrible. There isn't an above average match on the card and not even the Submission match between Hart and Backlund can save it. Undertaker goes up again King Kong Bundy in a stinker, while Diesel and Shawn Michaels are booted out of the main event by Bam Bam Bigelow and an American Football player. Total shitfest.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Skippy » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:56 pm

Good work but WM24 > WM20, 21, 22,

:mrgreen:

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by KK » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:59 pm

WrestleMania went through a bit of a funny patch in the mid to late 90's. They really toned down the spectacle. WrestleMania's 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 & 16 were all rather normal affairs, held in normal arenas. WCW no doubt had an impact on 12 & 13 - the production values of the WWF during this period was rotten.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Drumstick » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:06 pm

PsychoPriest wrote:Good work but WM24 > 21, 22,

:mrgreen:

I can give you those two...

PsychoPriest wrote:WM24 > WM20

wat

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by KK » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:08 pm

Oh, & who could forget the culmination of the Billionaire Ted skits at 'Mania. :fp:

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Saint of Killers » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:12 pm

:fp: Spoilers in the thread title? I've yet to see WrastleMania! I'm not *that* pissed off really, but please don't spoil anything else. Please!

Apologies if this has already been covered in the thread.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by KK » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:16 pm

Everyone knew Mickey Rourke was getting involved, surely?

The match results are on Page 1. I never considered putting something like "Triple H turns on Stephanie McMahon/blows up the ring"* in the thread title.

*Joke.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by teh bork » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:32 pm

Drumstick wrote:
PsychoPriest wrote:Good work but WM24 > 21, 22,

:mrgreen:

I can give you those two...

PsychoPriest wrote:WM24 > WM20

wat


I prefer 22 to 24, the Foley v Edge match was fantastic and HBK v Vince also told a great story. I also enjoyed the main event, mainly because of the way the crowd got involved and created an amazing atmosphere.

If I had to rate the Mania's since the first one I watched (16) onto 25 the order would be:

17>20>>22>24>19>18>16>21>23>25

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Drumstick » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:37 pm

teh bork wrote:I prefer 22 to 24, the Foley v Edge match was fantastic and HBK v Vince also told a great story. I also enjoyed the main event, mainly because of the way the crowd got involved and created an amazing atmosphere.

If I had to rate the Mania's since the first one I watched (16) onto 25 the order would be:

17>20>>22>24>19>18>16>21>23>25

I gave him the first two as those three are right next to each other for me. However, in terms of quality XX is just so far ahead of every other WM with the exception of X-Seven it's unreal.

Also, I can't believe you rate 22 and 24so highly, madness!

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by sw26 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:38 pm

Nice list Drummy, of the 'Manias I've seen (14-24, although I do have the DVD of 3 which I've yet to watch) I can't say I disagree with your assessment.

Of the last few years (ie. 2005 onwards) I'd say 22 was my favourite, I just remember thinking that it was a really fun show when I last watched it, although I think the fact that it was a hot Chicago crowd really helped make it feel like something special even if the in-ring action didn't ultimately live up to the reactions.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by Cropolite » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:40 pm

The attitude Mania's were the gooseberry fool, really. X-SEVEN being the best.

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PostRe: Wrestling: Mickey Rourke wallops Jericho at 'Mania 25 (pg1)
by teh bork » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:52 pm

Drumstick wrote:
teh bork wrote:I prefer 22 to 24, the Foley v Edge match was fantastic and HBK v Vince also told a great story. I also enjoyed the main event, mainly because of the way the crowd got involved and created an amazing atmosphere.

If I had to rate the Mania's since the first one I watched (16) onto 25 the order would be:

17>20>>22>24>19>18>16>21>23>25

I gave him the first two as those three are right next to each other for me. However, in terms of quality XX is just so far ahead of every other WM with the exception of X-Seven it's unreal.

Also, I can't believe you rate 22 and 24so highly, madness!


For pure storytelling 22 was great and the crowd were amazing. There were only 2 real matches that were poor, Booker v Bogeyman(which wasn't really a match) and Taker v Henry (which wasn't as bad as it could have been), the rest were very good or excellent.


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