The Wrestling Thread: WWE WrestleMania 31 [NSFW]

[PES Fan]

BATISTA JUST RETURNED ON RAW!

I hope a heel turn is on the cards for backlash.

Well...he's fighting Orton so I'd doubt it.

Well didn't Orton offer him the chance to join him last year? It just seems too obvious that HHH will retain the title especially now with Batista on his team. It would be a better twist if Batista turned heel. I suppose it depends on the draft next week.

[Ginga]

BATISTA JUST RETURNED ON RAW!

I hope a heel turn is on the cards for backlash.

Well...he's fighting Orton so I'd doubt it.

Well didn't Orton offer him the chance to join him last year? It just seems too obvious that HHH will retain the title especially now with Batista on his team. It would be a better twist if Batista turned heel. I suppose it depends on the draft next week.

This is the WWE we're talking about. The same WWE that managed to create possibly the worst WrestleMania on its 25th Anniversary

I wouldn't hold out much hope.

[Skippy]

I wish I'd watched it, I probably would have marked out for it too

[Rog]

Right the list of winners and those who still need to PM me your email:

Zellery - Recieved (sent ages ago before anyone else ) & Paid.
Brick Tamlin -
AJ Styles - Recieved & Paid.
PsychicSykes - Recieved & Paid.
LaggyJim -
Corzon -

E-man and Croplite need to send me their ADDRESS.

[captain red dog]

I thought Wrestlemania 2 was rubbish. Personally I liked WM9, I think only Hogan winning the title spoiled things.

I haven't been too keen on any of the recent lot since WM18.

Really? 19, despite not having many stand out moments has a really solid card with a couple of cracking matches. XX is probably in my top five, the rest since then have been okay, with the exception of last night's abomination.

The one with Lesnar vs Angle was really good, was that 19?

I suppose I was a bit unfair, last years was quite good and was in a cracking venue.

[Skippy]

My list of favourite Wrestlemanias, that I've seen

1) Wrestlemania X7 - Has to be, overall the quality of wrestling is slightly lower than number 2 on the list but as an all round show it's superior. Even the worst match on the card (Gimmick Battle Royal) was fun. Best main event too.

2) Wrestlemania 19 - Lots and lots and lots of great wrestling. Classics in HBK/Jericho, Rock/Austin, Angle/Lesnar and the spectacle of Hogan/Vince which is hugely entertaining.

3) Wrestlemania 24 - Loved this show, top to bottom great matches bar two exceptions (one being a few seconds long). Two classics as well in HBK/Flair and Edge/Taker.

=4) Wrestlemania 22
=4) Wrestlemania XX
6) Wrestlemania 21 - Strongest undercard EVER (imo)
7) Wrestlemania 23
8) Wrestlemania 25

I REALLY can't decide between 22 and 20, 22's undercard is better but it's main events pale in comparison to 20s. hmmm

I think I've got WM10 somewhere so I might watch that today

[captain red dog]

I remember hating WM10 when it first happened. The main event was rubbish and the ending was cheesy.

Not sure how I would think of it now though might have to dig out my old tapes!

Didn't Macho Man have a street fight on it?

[Shafto]

Sounds like a good RAW.

Where did the phrase 'mark out' originate? Is it a typical USA sports term?

[Skippy]

My match ratings for 17, 19-25

WM17
IC Title – Chris Jericho Vs William Regal – **½
Tazz & APA Vs Right to Censor – **
HC Title - Kane Vs Big Show Vs Raven – ***½
EU Title – Eddie Guerrero Vs Test – ***
Kurt Angle Vs Robin Ethics – ****
Shane McMahon Vs Vince McMahon – ***½
Tag Titles - Edge & Christian Vs The Dudleys Vs The Hardys – ****½
Gimmick Battle Royal – *½
Undertaker Vs Triple H – ****
WWF Title – The Rock Vs Stone Cold – *****

WM19
CW Title – Matt Hardy Vs Rey Mysterio - **½
Undertaker Vs Big Show & A-Train - **
Team Angle Vs Los Guerros Vs Benoit & Rhyno - ***
Shawn Michaels Vs Chris Jericho - *****
World Title – Triple H Vs Booker T - ***½
Hulk Hogan Vs Vince McMahon - ****
The Rock Vs Stone Cold - ****
WWE Title – Kurt Angle Vs Brock Lesnar - ****¼

WM20
US Title – Big Show Vs John Cena - **½
World Tag Titles – **
Chris Jericho Vs Christian - ****
Evolution Vs The Rock & Sock Connection - ***
Cruiserweight Open - **½
Goldberg Vs Brock Lesnar - *
WWE Tag Titles - *½
WWE Title – Eddie Guerrero Vs Kurt Angle - ****
Undertaker Vs Kane - **
World Title – Triple H Vs Shawn Michaels Vs Robin Ethics - *****

WM21
Eddie Guerrero Vs Rey Mysterio - ***
Money in the Bank I - ****½
Undertaker Vs Randy Orton - ****
Kurt Angle Vs Shawn Michaels - *****
Big Show Vs Akebono - *
WWE Title – JBL Vs John Cena - **
World Title – Triple H Vs Batista - ***

WM22
World Tag Titles – Masters & Carlito Vs Kane & Big Show - **½
Money in the Bank II - ****
US Title – Robin Ethics Vs JBL - ***
Edge Vs Mick Foley - ****½
The Boogeyman Vs Booker T & Sharmell – DUD
Undertaker Vs Mark Henry - **½
Shawn Michaels Vs Vince McMahon - ***½
World Title – Kurt Angle Vs Randy Orton Vs Rey Mysterio - ***½
WWE Title – John Cena Vs Triple H - ****

WM23
Money in the Bank III - ****¼
The Great Khali Vs Kane - *
US Title – Robin Ethics Vs MVP - ***
World Title – Batista Vs Undertaker - ****¼
ECW Originals Vs New Breed - **
Bobby Lashley Vs Umaga - ***
WWE Title John Cena Vs Shawn Michaels - ****¼

WM 24
JBL Vs Finlay - ***
Money in the Bank IV - ****¼
Batista Vs Umaga - **
ECW Title - Kane Vs Chavo Guerrero – DUD
Shawn Michaels Vs Ric Flair - *****
WWE Title – Randy Orton Vs John Cena Vs Triple H - ***½
Big Show Vs Floyd Mayweather - ***
World Title – Undertaker Vs Edge - ****¼

WM25
Money in the Bank V - ***½
Chris Jericho Vs Snuka, Piper & Steamboat - **½
Matt Hardy Vs Jeff Hardy - ***
IC Title – JBL Vs Rey Mysterio – DUD
Undertaker Vs Shawn Michaels - ****¾
World Title – Edge Vs John Cena Vs Big Show - ***
WWE Title – Triple H Vs Randy Orton - **½

[Mockmaster]

Have you not seen Mania 18?

[Chocolate Jim]

Batista.most.blatant.heel.turn.ever

[Skippy]

Have you not seen Mania 18?

Nope, seen the match that matters though

[Chocolate Jim]

oh and another thing ....

It was V.Gurrero who again changed the match at Backlash for the title ... SHE IS EMPLOYED BY THE MCMAHONS!!! Why would she do Orton a favour??? THIS DOESEN'T MAKE SENSE

[gaminglegend]

It would be much more of a suprise if HHH had a heel turn, and joined with Orton. This storys been on too long now anyway. It's stupid.

[Mockmaster]

Have you not seen Mania 18?

Nope, seen the match that matters though

It's worth checking out for a couple of the other matches. Undertaker-Flair was pretty good, as was the 4 corners Elimination Tag-match. Kane vs Angle wasn't bad despite the botched finish.

[E-Man]

Raw was pretty good, much better than that gooseberry fool I had to pay for the other night.

Steamboat.

[Skippy]

Have you not seen Mania 18?

Nope, seen the match that matters though

It's worth checking out for a couple of the other matches. Undertaker-Flair was pretty good, as was the 4 corners Elimination Tag-match. Kane vs Angle wasn't bad despite the botched finish.

ooooh, reminds me I've got Taker/Flair on my laptop! Will definitely watch that today

[KK]

Backlash: In Your House is on Sky Sports 1, for those interested. Thank strawberry float.

[Skippy]

If it's good then I'll feel better about paying for Mania, the way I see it that £15 would have paid for both events

[Drumstick]

My list of favourite Wrestlemanias, that I've seen

6) Wrestlemania 21 - Strongest undercard EVER (imo)

What?!

I remember hating WM10 when it first happened. The main event was rubbish and the ending was cheesy.

Didn't Macho Man have a street fight on it?

Aye, against Crush. He hung 'im up to dry. Card (with results) is below.

1 Owen Hart defeated Bret Hart.[2][29] Singles match 20:21
2 Bam Bam Bigelow and Luna Vachon defeated Doink the Clown and Dink.[2][32] Mixed tag team match 06:09
3 Randy Savage defeated Crush (with Mr. Fuji).[2][31] Falls Count Anywhere match 09:49
4 Alundra Blayze (c) defeated Leilani Kai.[2][31] Singles match for the WWF Women's Championship 03:20
5 Men on a Mission (Mabel and Mo) (with Oscar) defeated The Quebecers (c) (Jacques and Pierre) (with Johnny Polo) by countout.[2][31] Tag team match for the WWF Tag Team Championship 07:41
6 Yokozuna (c) (with Mr. Fuji and Jim Cornette) defeated Lex Luger by disqualification.[2][29] Singles match for the WWF Championship with special guest referee Mr. Perfect 14:40
7 Earthquake defeated Adam Bomb (with Harvey Wippleman).[2][31] Singles match 00:32
8 Razor Ramon (c) defeated Shawn Michaels (with Diesel).[2][4][25][32] Ladder match for the WWF Intercontinental Championship 18:47
9 Bret Hart defeated Yokozuna (c) (with Mr. Fuji and Jim Cornette).[2][32] Singles match for the WWF Championship with special guest referee Roddy Piper 10:38