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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:16 pm

[iup=3606582]KKLEIN[/iup] wrote:Sky have come out and said the delay to the Network has nothing to do with them at all. Which begs the question why those within WWE have been talking to the wrestling sites making it look like Sky have put a block on it. In fact WWE's Media Relations department have stated that the delay is because of a conflict of interest between the two sides. Dave Meltzer apparently indicated that in particular Sky took umbrage with the Survivor Series being given away for free.

Sky don't usually comment on these things, but over the last month they've had to deny involvement twice now due to the hostility towards them.

Somewhere along the line there has been one hell of a communication break down.


Maybe their relationship is like a husband (wwe) and wife (sky). Wwe asks if they can do something, Sky says yes of course you can, wwe knows full well that sky isn't happy with them doing it but sky insists that they can do what they want, so wwe goes ahead and then ends up sleeping on the sofa.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by KK » Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:24 pm

Whatculture.com wrote:The UK WWE Network launch was halted at the last minute because of WWE negotiations with Sky. “It’s Sky that’s the issue,” Dave Meltzer confirmed on Wrestling Observer Radio,“WWE were in negotiations with Sky before for a TV station. They wanted a TV station, the deal didn’t get done, thats what held it up.”

“There’s several issues. They were in negotiations over putting it as a TV station. Sky when they made their deal, part of the deal was pay per views. They were aware that the network was coming in but that wasn’t until next year. Sky were already promoting Survivor Series at a certain price and WWE came in not even offering it at a lower price but offering it for free.”

The negotiations over the WWE / Sky partnership was what held up the initial Network launch which was meant to happen in October. Obviously the continued negotiations did not go well, leading the WWE to launch it alone on November 3rd. At the last minute (literally in the hours before launch) Sky said or did something that caused WWE to pull the launch. It’s possible that they went as far to get an injunction. This issue is that Sky had already started marketing their Survivor Series pay per view at a price point of £14.95. When WWE suddenly announced last Thursday that the UK would get Survivor Series free on WWE Network, at that point the Sky representatives needed to act in order to protect their business. By the intervention happening at the last minute, WWE have been seriously embarrassed. Meltzer states “I’d guess they’d figured it would get done by November 3rd, they were assuming it was going to get worked out and then it did not get worked out.”

The reason for WWE’s haste was because the US Network numbers had been so bad. They only had 731,000 subscriptions as of last week. The UK is WWE’s number two market, and the original launch for the UK Network had been January 2015. That was then changed to October 2014. WWE then changed it to November as the Sky talks were ongoing. Now there’s no clear launch date, but you’d have to imagine they’ll try for a January date again. It’s important for WWE to get this done for WrestleMania season. It’s also important that they launch soon in order to appease the disgruntled UK fans. WWE and Sky need to work this out quickly as both are being criticised right now. The US Network geo block actually did get removed in the UK earlier on Monday, but was quickly restored a few hours later.

“It could get worked out soon, we don’t know” Meltzer states.

WWE promised something and failed to deliver. The botched launch has seriously hurt their consumer base and there’s a huge bad feeling to the WWE in the UK right now. The timing couldn’t be worse for WWE, as they are due to tour the UK starting the fifth of November to the thirteenth. This will include Raw and Smackdown tapings. The always raucous UK crowd is sure to give WWE a piece of their mind – especially if the shows promote the Network for the US audience.

http://whatculture.com/wwe/uk-wwe-netwo ... hannel.php

Presumably these are all WWE sources; I guess Sky (through the Community Manager and Press Centre) felt they needed to get their side of the story out too - which is 'this has nothing to do with us'. Maybe this was some sort of power play by WWE in attempt to get Sky to pick up the Network as a TV channel & it's completely backfired. Who do you trust less to be telling the truth here - WWE or Sky...

That Sky would be unhappy that WWE are stepping on their toes with what would be the current contract does make sense though. The Network was supposed to have a 6 month commitment and be paid. The current offer has made Sky Box Office completely irrelevant. Nobody is spending £15 on this when it's available legally for free.

One thing Sky aren't is amateur hour. WWE however...well, is.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Banjo » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:32 pm

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Rog » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:00 pm

The Sky denial could easily be a lie. DTA KK.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Reavus » Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:51 pm

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Skippy » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:26 am

Vince addresses UK fans over WWE Network
http://www.wwe.com/videos/wwe-chairman- ... s-26779418

Could end up working VERY well for us if we end up getting a free month ourselves to make up for missing this month. January would be splendid

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by Corazon de Leon » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:14 am

Looks like he's trying to grow his bouffant back. :slol:

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by KK » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:24 am

WWE SmackDown Tapings

Match 1: Goldust & Stardust defeated The Uso brothers inside a steel cage to retain the Tag Team Championship.

Kane was out for a promo. He said what they decided to do to Randy Orton on Monday was the toughest decision The Authority have had to make. He said there were questions about Orton's loyalties and they made an example of him. He said the battle lines have been drawn and warned superstars to choose their side wisely. Kane then said Ziggler thinks he can survive The Authority, so we'll see if Ziggler can survive Kane later tonight. He said since the cage is hanging overhead, they might as well make it a cage match. Kane was about to introduce someone to fill Orton's spot when Cesaro's music hit. He said if The Authority is looking for someone to swing Cena like a ragdoll, Cesaro is their man. Kane said it wasn't who he had in mind, but if Cesaro can beat the guy then he'll get the spot. Cue The Big Guy.

Match 2: Ryback defeated Cesaro.

Match 3: R-Truth beat Adam Rose after the bunny interfered and distracted Rose. Rose then laid out The Bunny. The rest of the The Rosebuds were still partying.

Peep Show with Dean Ambrose was next. Christian plugged Haven first. Wyatt ended up coming out and interrupting Ambrose with a promo on the stage. Ambrose left the ring and went after Wyatt, but the lights cut out. When they came back, Wyatt was standing behind Ambrose. He warned Ambrose to run before the lights cut out again and he was gone. Wyatt appeared on the screen and cut a brief promo before disappearing. Ambrose grabbed a mic and went on a tear about being sick of this hocus-pocus crap. He said he's not leaving Albany until he gets a fight with Wyatt. Wyatt walked back out and hit the ring. They brawled before Ambrose hit his rebound lariat. Ambrose left the ring to fill it with chairs, allowing Wyatt to slip out and head back up the ramp.

Another Xavier Woods promo.

AJ Lee cut a promo backstage when Brie Bella approached her. Brie apologized, but before she could say anything else AJ said she understood the circumstances. Then, Nikki Bella attacked AJ from behind. The segment closed with Nikki complaining that Brie should've acted more sincere.

A clip aired with Tyson Kidd backstage flirting with Summer Rae and Layla. Natalya approached and asked why Kidd wasn't responding to her texts. Kidd said he didn't have his phone with him, before he begrudging left with Nattie.

Match 4: Summer Rae defeated Natalya in a quick match after a Tyson distraction. Tyson and Natty then bickered.

Michael Cole welcomed two members of the Soldier Socks foundation and a member of the military who was injured in Afghanistan and lost the use of his legs. Soldier socks had Army Sgt Dan Rose demonstrate the eckso bionics suit, wherein paralyzed people can walk. The crowd was receptive and chanted "USA" and "Lets go, Dan" and "Thank you, Dan!"

Dolph Ziggler cut a promo backstage. He said he made his intentions clear Monday - he wants The Authority out. He said if that means facing Kane in a cage, it's what he's going to do. Triple H approached him and reminded Ziggler that neither Orton nor Cena were there to save him tonight. He said Ziggler should save himself. He reminded everyone of what happened to Orton on RAW, and questioned what would happen to Ziggler.

Main Event: Dolph Ziggler beat Kane in the second steel cage match of the night. Ziggler was hung up on the top of the open cage door before slamming it into Kane and dropping to the floor for the win to close the show.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by KK » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:10 pm

If they can convince Sky to pick it up as a channel, how will it be positioned. Will it come under the Sky Sports banner & be included as part of the Sky Sports package, will it be a separate entity like Man Utd TV & cost, say, £6 extra a month, will Sky control it whatsoever (perhaps WWE will just get carriage on the platform)...

I'm not opposed to it being a TV station, but WWE wouldn't be able to broadcast the same channel that's online because it would fall foul of TV regulations, with the violence being just one of the problems. And then if it does become a TV channel, that then leaves the problem of On-Demand. Look at Canada, it's crap.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Codename 47 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:22 pm

As much as I dislike Sky you can't blame them for kicking up a fuss. If their Box office deal had run out then fair enough WWE could do what they wanted when it came to PPV stuff over here but after signing a big money deal with WWE to renew their rights to PPV's, to have WWE turn round and say they'll offer a PPV Sky planned on selling for £14 and not to mention future PPV's for half the price and without even needing Sky, it's not surprise they're pissed off to say the least. I can't see us getting it the same level as the US does now.

It's a shame though as i'd have happily have paid the £6+ had they officially launched it the other day like they said. Does that work around people have been using to get the network already, still work?

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by JChalmers » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:33 pm

Off to Newcastle show next Wednesday.

Jericho v Wyatt in a Street Fight and Cesaro v Ziggler for IC Title :twisted:

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Rog » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:41 pm

I'm giving up on the network now. Best to now instead of waiting for the inevitable failure of this sky-backed nonsense. If any of you pay the £15 for a PPV on Sky I hope you rot in hell. You caused this.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Slimgrady » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:25 pm

[iup=3607645]Lucien[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3607601]Codename 47[/iup] wrote:It's a shame though as i'd have happily have paid the £6+ had they officially launched it the other day like they said. Does that work around people have been using to get the network already, still work?


Yep. It'll work out at around £10 a month. You could sign up strategically though to get two PPVs under one 30 day contract.

I'll be looking to do that for Royal Rumble/Elimination Chamber. Two PPVs plus extras for £10... that'll do.

Elimination Chamber is being moved to June.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by captain red dog » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:01 am

I wish they would scrap the PPV between Rumble and Mania. It all looks a bit awkward as someone wins the toughest match of the year to get a title shot at mania, and then another guy gets a title shot for free a month later.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Skippy » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:30 am

[iup=3608338]captain red dog[/iup] wrote:I wish they would scrap the PPV between Rumble and Mania. It all looks a bit awkward as someone wins the toughest match of the year to get a title shot at mania, and then another guy gets a title shot for free a month later.


With the one world title that's probably why they scrapped EC, it's wasted there. I agree though, it should be left, maybe as an alternative they should just have the equivalent of a PPV on an episode of Raw and build towards that.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Mockmaster » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:07 pm

Just wondered whether any of you rasslin' fans fancied entering the Biggest Event of the Winter. GRcade Christmas SigSwap. Going for a record breaking number this year, think of it as a 40 man Royal Rumble type deal.

t:grcade-christmas-sigswap-2014?f=7

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Skippy » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:32 pm

Smackdown moving to Thursdays as of January 15th

http://www.wwe.com/shows/smackdown/2014 ... y-26779849

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Reavus » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:47 pm

According to the Observer, WWE’s running house shows in Cardiff on Monday and Bournemouth on Tuesday, meaning a bunch of people you’d like and expect to see on TV won’t be there.

Expected to miss Raw: Dean Ambrose, Kane, Dolph Ziggler, Bray Wyatt, Cesaro
Expected to miss Smackdown: John Cena, Seth Rollins, Big Show, Sheamus, Luke Harper, Erick Rowan

via Uproxx

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: WWE Network UK launch DELAYED. AGAIN.
by Kanbei » Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:31 pm

Sure they helicoptered The Shield in a couple of years ago if they want people to pull double duty.


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