Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition

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by Victor Mildew » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:14 am

Jezo wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind


This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by Jezo » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:34 am

Victor Mildew wrote:
Jezo wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind


This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

You can play how you like, I just said it was annoying for me. And I wouldn't give you agro over it lmao. On the flip side I see the same people complain about jumping online for the first time and finding players who are 'too good' and it's 'unfair'. Not saying that's you ofc. There's a difference between learning the intracies of a game through playing others and experiencing the meta, and just learning the absolute basic rules of the game. Sorry to hear you don't play online games because of this though, you shouldn't let others put you off something you enjoy. I know there are definitely some toxic players out there who are just nasty to everyone.

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by Jenuall » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:36 am

It's a game about hitting someone lots, it's not chess!

Sounds like they need a better matchmaking system more than anything, if they pitched people against others of similar skill well then you wouldn't really have this problem.

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by Zilnad » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:45 am

Jenuall wrote:It's a game about hitting someone lots, it's not chess!


This is a guy who doesn't understand fighting games :lol:

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by Jenuall » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:46 am

Zilnad wrote:
Jenuall wrote:It's a game about hitting someone lots, it's not chess!


This is a guy who doesn't understand fighting games :lol:

Are they chess? No.

Do they involve hitting someone lots? Yes.

Looks like I understand it fine to me ;)

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by Zilnad » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:49 am

Touché

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by Jenuall » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:52 am

There's definitely a hell of a lot of complexity to many fighting games, there's no denying that.

Like I say it sounds like the main problem is matchmaking - genuine n00bs with no skill in the game shouldn't be getting paired up against someone who knows their gooseberry fool - as Jezo describes that situation is not going to be fun for anyone!

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by Victor Mildew » Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:54 am

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Victor Mildew wrote:
Jezo wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind


This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

You can play how you like, I just said it was annoying for me. And I wouldn't give you agro over it lmao. On the flip side I see the same people complain about jumping online for the first time and finding players who are 'too good' and it's 'unfair'. Not saying that's you ofc. There's a difference between learning the intracies of a game through playing others and experiencing the meta, and just learning the absolute basic rules of the game. Sorry to hear you don't play online games because of this though, you shouldn't let others put you off something you enjoy. I know there are definitely some toxic players out there who are just nasty to everyone.


Yeah I wasn't having a go at you personally, it just seems to be the case where you're expected to pump in 1000s of hours to know every single aspect of the game you're playing online, and if you're not up to scratch then you're either a burden on a team or deemed so gooseberry fool you become a target and can't enjoy the game either way. In my first and only COD online game, I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it. The same match a helicopter appeared so I tried to shoot it down, and had the opposition laughing at me and calling me a wanker for the rest of the match.

I tried to play some evolve online and got abuse because I got assigned a medic role but DARED to shoot at the monster when it appeared. strawberry floating knobs, not everyone has the time to dedicate to learning everything before going online.

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by coldspice » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:04 am

In honour of BOTW's birthday, silent protagonists.

An insane stretch of suspension of disbelief that the gaming community at large seems to have decided is good.

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by Jezo » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:07 am

Victor Mildew wrote:
Jezo wrote:
Victor Mildew wrote:
Jezo wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind


This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

You can play how you like, I just said it was annoying for me. And I wouldn't give you agro over it lmao. On the flip side I see the same people complain about jumping online for the first time and finding players who are 'too good' and it's 'unfair'. Not saying that's you ofc. There's a difference between learning the intracies of a game through playing others and experiencing the meta, and just learning the absolute basic rules of the game. Sorry to hear you don't play online games because of this though, you shouldn't let others put you off something you enjoy. I know there are definitely some toxic players out there who are just nasty to everyone.


Yeah I wasn't having a go at you personally, it just seems to be the case where you're expected to pump in 1000s of hours to know every single aspect of the game you're playing online, and if you're not up to scratch then you're either a burden on a team or deemed so gooseberry fool you become a target and can't enjoy the game either way. In my first and only COD online game, I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it. The same match a helicopter appeared so I tried to shoot it down, and had the opposition laughing at me and calling me a wanker for the rest of the match.

I tried to play some evolve online and got abuse because I got assigned a medic role but DARED to shoot at the monster when it appeared. strawberry floating knobs, not everyone has the time to dedicate to learning everything before going online.

Yeah that just sounds like a bunch of knobs lmao. That's unfortunate, most people aren't that angry from my experience. I'm sure I would have tried shooting at the helicopter too tbh lol

Victor Mildew wrote:I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it.

Sounds like you already figured out the best strats ;)

Jenuall wrote:There's definitely a hell of a lot of complexity to many fighting games, there's no denying that.

Like I say it sounds like the main problem is matchmaking - genuine n00bs with no skill in the game shouldn't be getting paired up against someone who knows their gooseberry fool - as Jezo describes that situation is not going to be fun for anyone!

I was thinking more just people who don't even know the controls like A is jump or whatever lol, but yeah, that's why good matchmaking is key!

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by Jenuall » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:09 am

Jezo wrote:
Victor Mildew wrote:
Jezo wrote:
Victor Mildew wrote:
Jezo wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind


This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

You can play how you like, I just said it was annoying for me. And I wouldn't give you agro over it lmao. On the flip side I see the same people complain about jumping online for the first time and finding players who are 'too good' and it's 'unfair'. Not saying that's you ofc. There's a difference between learning the intracies of a game through playing others and experiencing the meta, and just learning the absolute basic rules of the game. Sorry to hear you don't play online games because of this though, you shouldn't let others put you off something you enjoy. I know there are definitely some toxic players out there who are just nasty to everyone.


Yeah I wasn't having a go at you personally, it just seems to be the case where you're expected to pump in 1000s of hours to know every single aspect of the game you're playing online, and if you're not up to scratch then you're either a burden on a team or deemed so gooseberry fool you become a target and can't enjoy the game either way. In my first and only COD online game, I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it. The same match a helicopter appeared so I tried to shoot it down, and had the opposition laughing at me and calling me a wanker for the rest of the match.

I tried to play some evolve online and got abuse because I got assigned a medic role but DARED to shoot at the monster when it appeared. strawberry floating knobs, not everyone has the time to dedicate to learning everything before going online.

Yeah that just sounds like a bunch of knobs lmao. That's unfortunate, most people aren't that angry from my experience. I'm sure I would have tried shooting at the helicopter too tbh lol

Victor Mildew wrote:I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it.

Sounds like you already figured out the best strats ;)

Jenuall wrote:There's definitely a hell of a lot of complexity to many fighting games, there's no denying that.

Like I say it sounds like the main problem is matchmaking - genuine n00bs with no skill in the game shouldn't be getting paired up against someone who knows their gooseberry fool - as Jezo describes that situation is not going to be fun for anyone!

I was thinking more just people who don't even know the controls like A is jump or whatever lol, but yeah, that's why good matchmaking is key!

Oh man, if people are going in without even knowing what buttons to press then that is really something! :dread: :lol:

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by OrangeRKN » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:18 am

Minty14 wrote:In honour of BOTW's birthday, silent protagonists.

An insane stretch of suspension of disbelief that the gaming community at large seems to have decided is good.


Link isn't a silent protagonist, his dialogue is inferred from context

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by coldspice » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:22 am

They made his silence canon in BOTW

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by Jenuall » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:24 am

Silent protagonists are great. The Guy in GTA3 is infinitely better than having to listen to Ray Liotta talking gooseberry fool in Vice City all the time. Similarly silent Jak in the original Jak & Daxter is far more effective than the angsty emo moaner he becomes from the second game!

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by coldspice » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:27 am

See, both of those are just examples of bad writing in the cases of the alternatives.

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by Jenuall » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:31 am

A well written protagonist can of course be a very good thing, but a silent protagonist is not an inherently bad choice if it fits the design and is implemented in the right way.

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by coldspice » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:47 am

no they r rubbish

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PostRe: Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition
by OrangeRKN » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:08 pm

Minty14 wrote:They made his silence canon in BOTW


They both explain why he remains silent but also have dialogue that clearly implies Link to be talking (including dialogue options) so...

Jenuall wrote:Silent protagonists are great. The Guy in GTA3 is infinitely better than having to listen to Ray Liotta talking gooseberry fool in Vice City all the time. Similarly silent Jak in the original Jak & Daxter is far more effective than the angsty emo moaner he becomes from the second game!


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by Jenuall » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:10 pm

I didn't think it would be long before I would incur the wrath of ORKN!

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by OrangeRKN » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:15 pm

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