Things that annoy you - Gaming Edition

Jezo wrote:

OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind

This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

Victor Mildew wrote:

Jezo wrote:

OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind

This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

You can play how you like, I just said it was annoying for me. And I wouldn't give you agro over it lmao. On the flip side I see the same people complain about jumping online for the first time and finding players who are 'too good' and it's 'unfair'. Not saying that's you ofc. There's a difference between learning the intracies of a game through playing others and experiencing the meta, and just learning the absolute basic rules of the game. Sorry to hear you don't play online games because of this though, you shouldn't let others put you off something you enjoy. I know there are definitely some toxic players out there who are just nasty to everyone.

It's a game about hitting someone lots, it's not chess!

Sounds like they need a better matchmaking system more than anything, if they pitched people against others of similar skill well then you wouldn't really have this problem.

Jenuall wrote:It's a game about hitting someone lots, it's not chess!

This is a guy who doesn't understand fighting games

Zilnad wrote:

Jenuall wrote:It's a game about hitting someone lots, it's not chess!

This is a guy who doesn't understand fighting games

Are they chess? No.

Do they involve hitting someone lots? Yes.

Looks like I understand it fine to me

Touché

There's definitely a hell of a lot of complexity to many fighting games, there's no denying that.

Like I say it sounds like the main problem is matchmaking - genuine n00bs with no skill in the game shouldn't be getting paired up against someone who knows their gooseberry fool - as Jezo describes that situation is not going to be fun for anyone!

Jezo wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:

Jezo wrote:

OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind

This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

You can play how you like, I just said it was annoying for me. And I wouldn't give you agro over it lmao. On the flip side I see the same people complain about jumping online for the first time and finding players who are 'too good' and it's 'unfair'. Not saying that's you ofc. There's a difference between learning the intracies of a game through playing others and experiencing the meta, and just learning the absolute basic rules of the game. Sorry to hear you don't play online games because of this though, you shouldn't let others put you off something you enjoy. I know there are definitely some toxic players out there who are just nasty to everyone.

Yeah I wasn't having a go at you personally, it just seems to be the case where you're expected to pump in 1000s of hours to know every single aspect of the game you're playing online, and if you're not up to scratch then you're either a burden on a team or deemed so gooseberry fool you become a target and can't enjoy the game either way. In my first and only COD online game, I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it. The same match a helicopter appeared so I tried to shoot it down, and had the opposition laughing at me and calling me a wanker for the rest of the match.

I tried to play some evolve online and got abuse because I got assigned a medic role but DARED to shoot at the monster when it appeared. strawberry floating knobs, not everyone has the time to dedicate to learning everything before going online.

In honour of BOTW's birthday, silent protagonists.

An insane stretch of suspension of disbelief that the gaming community at large seems to have decided is good.

Victor Mildew wrote:

Jezo wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:

Jezo wrote:

OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind

This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

You can play how you like, I just said it was annoying for me. And I wouldn't give you agro over it lmao. On the flip side I see the same people complain about jumping online for the first time and finding players who are 'too good' and it's 'unfair'. Not saying that's you ofc. There's a difference between learning the intracies of a game through playing others and experiencing the meta, and just learning the absolute basic rules of the game. Sorry to hear you don't play online games because of this though, you shouldn't let others put you off something you enjoy. I know there are definitely some toxic players out there who are just nasty to everyone.

Yeah I wasn't having a go at you personally, it just seems to be the case where you're expected to pump in 1000s of hours to know every single aspect of the game you're playing online, and if you're not up to scratch then you're either a burden on a team or deemed so gooseberry fool you become a target and can't enjoy the game either way. In my first and only COD online game, I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it. The same match a helicopter appeared so I tried to shoot it down, and had the opposition laughing at me and calling me a wanker for the rest of the match.

I tried to play some evolve online and got abuse because I got assigned a medic role but DARED to shoot at the monster when it appeared. strawberry floating knobs, not everyone has the time to dedicate to learning everything before going online.

Yeah that just sounds like a bunch of knobs lmao. That's unfortunate, most people aren't that angry from my experience. I'm sure I would have tried shooting at the helicopter too tbh lol

Victor Mildew wrote:I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it.

Sounds like you already figured out the best strats

Jenuall wrote:There's definitely a hell of a lot of complexity to many fighting games, there's no denying that.

Like I say it sounds like the main problem is matchmaking - genuine n00bs with no skill in the game shouldn't be getting paired up against someone who knows their gooseberry fool - as Jezo describes that situation is not going to be fun for anyone!

I was thinking more just people who don't even know the controls like A is jump or whatever lol, but yeah, that's why good matchmaking is key!

Jezo wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:

Jezo wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:

Jezo wrote:

OrangeRKN wrote:> Losing to literal children online.

Actually being a competitive Smash player, this is just an occupational hazard.

What does annoy me about online play though is fighting against someone who clearly doesn't have a clue how to play the game. This is usually within the first month of playing a fighting game. I'll go through single player, unlock everything, get all the extra doo-dads, and then once I feel like I've got a grasp on how the game works I'll jump into online to fight others, only to find what seems like someone who literally bought the game that day and immediately went to play online. I get that online is the main appeal for a lot of people, but it's very boring to fight against. It's like setting up a complex board game, throwing away the rules, and then trying to play blind

This attitude is why I don't play online games beyond racing games. Why am I not allowed to play how I want? I don't need someone giving me agro over team chat becuase I'm not playing how they want me to or I don't know every square mm of a level yet.

You can play how you like, I just said it was annoying for me. And I wouldn't give you agro over it lmao. On the flip side I see the same people complain about jumping online for the first time and finding players who are 'too good' and it's 'unfair'. Not saying that's you ofc. There's a difference between learning the intracies of a game through playing others and experiencing the meta, and just learning the absolute basic rules of the game. Sorry to hear you don't play online games because of this though, you shouldn't let others put you off something you enjoy. I know there are definitely some toxic players out there who are just nasty to everyone.

Yeah I wasn't having a go at you personally, it just seems to be the case where you're expected to pump in 1000s of hours to know every single aspect of the game you're playing online, and if you're not up to scratch then you're either a burden on a team or deemed so gooseberry fool you become a target and can't enjoy the game either way. In my first and only COD online game, I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it. The same match a helicopter appeared so I tried to shoot it down, and had the opposition laughing at me and calling me a wanker for the rest of the match.

I tried to play some evolve online and got abuse because I got assigned a medic role but DARED to shoot at the monster when it appeared. strawberry floating knobs, not everyone has the time to dedicate to learning everything before going online.

Yeah that just sounds like a bunch of knobs lmao. That's unfortunate, most people aren't that angry from my experience. I'm sure I would have tried shooting at the helicopter too tbh lol

Victor Mildew wrote:I got called a "Camping banana split" by one guy becuase I walked up to a window and looked out of it.

Sounds like you already figured out the best strats

Jenuall wrote:There's definitely a hell of a lot of complexity to many fighting games, there's no denying that.

Like I say it sounds like the main problem is matchmaking - genuine n00bs with no skill in the game shouldn't be getting paired up against someone who knows their gooseberry fool - as Jezo describes that situation is not going to be fun for anyone!

I was thinking more just people who don't even know the controls like A is jump or whatever lol, but yeah, that's why good matchmaking is key!

Oh man, if people are going in without even knowing what buttons to press then that is really something!

Minty14 wrote:In honour of BOTW's birthday, silent protagonists.

An insane stretch of suspension of disbelief that the gaming community at large seems to have decided is good.

Link isn't a silent protagonist, his dialogue is inferred from context

They made his silence canon in BOTW

Silent protagonists are great. The Guy in GTA3 is infinitely better than having to listen to Ray Liotta talking gooseberry fool in Vice City all the time. Similarly silent Jak in the original Jak & Daxter is far more effective than the angsty emo moaner he becomes from the second game!

See, both of those are just examples of bad writing in the cases of the alternatives.

A well written protagonist can of course be a very good thing, but a silent protagonist is not an inherently bad choice if it fits the design and is implemented in the right way.

no they r rubbish

Minty14 wrote:They made his silence canon in BOTW

They both explain why he remains silent but also have dialogue that clearly implies Link to be talking (including dialogue options) so...

Jenuall wrote:Silent protagonists are great. The Guy in GTA3 is infinitely better than having to listen to Ray Liotta talking gooseberry fool in Vice City all the time. Similarly silent Jak in the original Jak & Daxter is far more effective than the angsty emo moaner he becomes from the second game!

You leave my boy alone

I didn't think it would be long before I would incur the wrath of ORKN!

My wrath knows no bounds (other than the strictly bounded format of an internet forum)