Quacks. Check out this guy, Clive de Carle, doing a talk in my town, "international health educator".
(Image taken from his own Facebook profile.)
The same guy promotes administration of industrial-strength bleach solution in the form of MMS ("Miracle Mineral Solution") as a fluid enema (rectal pumping), including in children, in order to cure autism. The theory is, of course, you "cleanse" your gut of pathogens which are giving you cancer, or autism, or whatever the information-averse targets looking for magic pills from predatory con men promoting things such as "frequency healing" sent remotely over magic for just £49 per year... and replace that with a vegan diet and massive mineral/vitamin supplements costing like £90 a bottle. What this actually does, obviously, is bleach your intestines and destroy the natural lining of your gut, amongst other consequences for literally taking bleach up your ass
Just google the name of this mentalist.https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cliv ... -2h2s7pj0t
https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/ ... heir-kids/
A British man who claims that diluted bleach can treat autism has been dropped from a conference in Waterford next month.
The Open Minds Ireland Conference includes speakers on topics including “natural health,” “exposing corruption” and “life mysteries”.
Clive de Carle, who describes himself as a specialist in health mastery, was dropped for speaking of the potential benefits of miracle mineral solution (MMS), a type of diluted bleach produced by mixing two chemicals. There is no scientific evidence that it works and it can be actively harmful.
Complaints were lodged against Mr de Carle’s inclusion. In a Facebook post the organisers said: “Clive de Carle has withdrawn from the Open Mind Ireland Conference. We feel this is the best thing for all. We do not advocate any dangerous substances being used on children.”
Mr de Carle said he would attend the conference as a guest and give his talk in another venue. He told The Times that he did not advocate the use of MMS but claimed there was evidence that 500 children who were treated with it had been cured of autism.
“I am not advocating it. I’m advocating research on it. Proper scientific research, that is what I’m advocating, I don’t want to say that I’m advocating the product,” he said.
Asked if it could “cure” autism, he said: “I’m not saying it could, I’m saying, according to the reports, in over 500 cases, it has. That’s an important distinction.”
Mr de Carle was referring to claims by Kerri Rivera, a US advocate for the treatment, who wrote about it in her book Healing the Symptoms Known As Autism. In March Amazon removed the book from its website after a petition gathered nearly 6,000 signatures.
In a phone call uploaded to YouTube in 2016 Mr de Carle offered advice on MMS to the parent of a non-verbal child. He claimed there was “no question” that it had worked for a lot of people but added that he is “not its biggest fan”. He instead recommended “rerum,” an injectable treatment made from human blood.
He initially declined to provide MMS but when pressed by the parent he replied: “Oh, alright, I can send you some.” When asked by the parent how much the MMS cost he said “about a tenner”. He advised that the child take it in the form of an enema, rather than drinking it.
When questioned about the video by The Times, he said: “You may notice I initially declined to supply her. But she told me that she had a non-verbal child, and that she needed somebody who she could trust.”
Mr de Carle’s website claims that he is “one of the world’s leading health researchers” and a specialist in “eliminating blockages such as physical and emotional toxins”. He also sells supplements and access to his “secret health club” for £100.
A SELF-STYLED health guru is pushing potentially lethal drugs to desperate
parents trying to help their autistic kids.
Clive de Carle, 60, offered to sell Rerum, which is a stronger form of
unlicensed product GcMAF, and bleach solution MMS.
He promotes his alternative therapies on his Health Revolution website. But
the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency warns GcMAF poses a
“serious risk” to health.
It has also issued warnings over MMS, which has been linked to at least one
Taylor, 41, has since been investigated by Trading Standards and stopped
But de Carle, of Marlborough, Wilts, offered to sell it to autism campaigner
Emma Dalmayne, 39, to give to her young daughter. And he said: “Whatever you
do, don’t give it orally.”
Emma said pushing unregulated products was “child abuse”. And the National
Autistic Society warned against “charlatans peddling dubious cures”.
De Carle denies selling unlicensed medicines.
My father, emeritus professor of physiology and dean of life sciences at UCL has pointed out that Victorian-era UV generation device is capable of blinding people and emitting X-rays when operated by someone who has no strawberry floating clue what they are doing
As a scientist how do you feel about this sort of thing? I think it's comparable to eugenics trying to cure, or promoting a made up effort to "cure" in no way supported by any science whatsoever, neurodivergent conditions like autism in order to effectively eradicate people with a permanently different type of brain. It presents a real threat to turning parents and adults away from the care they and their children need and all legitimate socially progressive movements of inclusivity and diversity in the past 50+ years, such as the Autism Act and the work of charities such as Scope and the National Autistic Society to raise awareness.
And yes, the same group running the venue are super into anti-vaccination and blaming heavy metal poisoning and microwaves for every health condition known to man, because, Facebook told them so.
If anyone is interested in popping along to London to gleam this wisdom, here's the flyer. £75. That's just over £10 per hour per person.
Obviously I've complained about it.