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by Minty14 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:46 am

Jenuall wrote:
Minty14 wrote:I mean, I generally know how to keep within the speed limit, but it's good my car has a speedometer to tell me exactly what I'm doing.

Not the best analogy really, it's not like the police are going to fine you for going over 70kwh or something! :lol:

Knowing what amount of energy is being used at any one point in time is certainly interesting but unless it helps drives change then it's not really gaining you anything. I know that turning things off will save me energy, I know that swapping appliances out for lower consumption alternatives is a smart move - something showing me those numbers changing in real time doesn't really change that situation in any meaningful way - I already knew the changes would help!

I just wanted to be a facetious internet arsehole :lol:

I do think it will drive change though. If people see their usage in real time, it brings it to the front of your mind constantly, rather than once a month. More transparency in the charges we get from energy companies is also a good thing imo.

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by jawafour » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:49 am

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:The meter cabinet is the responsibility of the property owner. The meter itself is the responsibility of the Meter Operator (MOP). No amount of complaining is going to change that, as it is set in law. Even if you end up going to OFGEM about it, they'll come down on the side of the MOP.

It seems a bit odd that a customer can be asked to check fittings inside the cabinet and, if necessary, get them replaced. I've looked online and it appears that UK Power Network has responsibility for the cabling and fuse, whilst the power provider (in my case, EDF) has responsibility for the meter. When I spoke to UK Power Network, they said that they can replace the meter boarding but the request should come via EDF. I went back to EDF and they've avoided answering this point; my complaint has just been answered with a "Your home can get a smart meter fitted" standard response :fp: .

I only agreed to the work because EDF made it sound as if there was a safety issue and, after wasting a day, I'm just gonna leave it as is.

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by Somebody Else's Presents » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:57 pm

jawafour wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:The meter cabinet is the responsibility of the property owner. The meter itself is the responsibility of the Meter Operator (MOP). No amount of complaining is going to change that, as it is set in law. Even if you end up going to OFGEM about it, they'll come down on the side of the MOP.

It seems a bit odd that a customer can be asked to check fittings inside the cabinet and, if necessary, get them replaced. I've looked online and it appears that UK Power Network has responsibility for the cabling and fuse, whilst the power provider (in my case, EDF) has responsibility for the meter. When I spoke to UK Power Network, they said that they can replace the meter boarding but the request should come via EDF. I went back to EDF and they've avoided answering this point; my complaint has just been answered with a "Your home can get a smart meter fitted" standard response :fp: .

I only agreed to the work because EDF made it sound as if there was a safety issue and, after wasting a day, I'm just gonna leave it as is.


I used to do customer services for EDF. You'll have been speaking to an underpaid, undertrained agent, who will most likely have only been with the company for a few weeks, because people keep leaving because the job is utter gooseberry fool and the management are banana splits.

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by jawafour » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:05 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:...You'll have been speaking to an underpaid, undertrained agent...

Oh, absolutely, SEP - when I was talking to the second guy it was clear that he wasn't really aware of what options there were to resolve the issue and I was totes polite with him; I feel for folk who are put in that position and treated like crap by their company. I'd imagine they face a barrage of calls from frustrated customers and it's not their fault that the process is a pile of pony.

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PostRe: Thing's that annoy u. Is it Friday yet PSML
by Ding Dong Merrilly on Hide » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:17 pm

jawafour wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:The meter cabinet is the responsibility of the property owner. The meter itself is the responsibility of the Meter Operator (MOP). No amount of complaining is going to change that, as it is set in law. Even if you end up going to OFGEM about it, they'll come down on the side of the MOP.

It seems a bit odd that a customer can be asked to check fittings inside the cabinet and, if necessary, get them replaced. I've looked online and it appears that UK Power Network has responsibility for the cabling and fuse, whilst the power provider (in my case, EDF) has responsibility for the meter. When I spoke to UK Power Network, they said that they can replace the meter boarding but the request should come via EDF. I went back to EDF and they've avoided answering this point; my complaint has just been answered with a "Your home can get a smart meter fitted" standard response :fp: .

I only agreed to the work because EDF made it sound as if there was a safety issue and, after wasting a day, I'm just gonna leave it as is.


I had similar issues when I switched ISPs to get fibre broadband, went from EE to BT, who accidentally ended up disconnecting our second line, BT wouldn't accept responsibility and neither would EE.

Wankers.

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by Green Gecko » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:20 pm

Quacks. Check out this guy, Clive de Carle, doing a talk in my town, "international health educator".

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The same guy promotes administration of industrial-strength bleach solution in the form of MMS ("Miracle Mineral Solution") as a fluid enema (rectal pumping), including in children, in order to cure autism. The theory is, of course, you "cleanse" your gut of pathogens which are giving you cancer, or autism, or whatever the information-averse targets looking for magic pills from predatory con men promoting things such as "frequency healing" sent remotely over magic for just £49 per year... and replace that with a vegan diet and massive mineral/vitamin supplements costing like £90 a bottle. What this actually does, obviously, is bleach your intestines and destroy the natural lining of your gut, amongst other consequences for literally taking bleach up your ass.

Just google the name of this mentalist.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cliv ... -2h2s7pj0t

A British man who claims that diluted bleach can treat autism has been dropped from a conference in Waterford next month.

The Open Minds Ireland Conference includes speakers on topics including “natural health,” “exposing corruption” and “life mysteries”.

Clive de Carle, who describes himself as a specialist in health mastery, was dropped for speaking of the potential benefits of miracle mineral solution (MMS), a type of diluted bleach produced by mixing two chemicals. There is no scientific evidence that it works and it can be actively harmful.

Complaints were lodged against Mr de Carle’s inclusion. In a Facebook post the organisers said: “Clive de Carle has withdrawn from the Open Mind Ireland Conference. We feel this is the best thing for all. We do not advocate any dangerous substances being used on children.”

Mr de Carle said he would attend the conference as a guest and give his talk in another venue. He told The Times that he did not advocate the use of MMS but claimed there was evidence that 500 children who were treated with it had been cured of autism.

“I am not advocating it. I’m advocating research on it. Proper scientific research, that is what I’m advocating, I don’t want to say that I’m advocating the product,” he said.

Asked if it could “cure” autism, he said: “I’m not saying it could, I’m saying, according to the reports, in over 500 cases, it has. That’s an important distinction.”

Mr de Carle was referring to claims by Kerri Rivera, a US advocate for the treatment, who wrote about it in her book Healing the Symptoms Known As Autism. In March Amazon removed the book from its website after a petition gathered nearly 6,000 signatures.

In a phone call uploaded to YouTube in 2016 Mr de Carle offered advice on MMS to the parent of a non-verbal child. He claimed there was “no question” that it had worked for a lot of people but added that he is “not its biggest fan”. He instead recommended “rerum,” an injectable treatment made from human blood.

He initially declined to provide MMS but when pressed by the parent he replied: “Oh, alright, I can send you some.” When asked by the parent how much the MMS cost he said “about a tenner”. He advised that the child take it in the form of an enema, rather than drinking it.

When questioned about the video by The Times, he said: “You may notice I initially declined to supply her. But she told me that she had a non-verbal child, and that she needed somebody who she could trust.”

Mr de Carle’s website claims that he is “one of the world’s leading health researchers” and a specialist in “eliminating blockages such as physical and emotional toxins”. He also sells supplements and access to his “secret health club” for £100.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/ ... heir-kids/

A SELF-STYLED health guru is pushing potentially lethal drugs to desperate
parents trying to help their autistic kids.

Clive de Carle, 60, offered to sell Rerum, which is a stronger form of
unlicensed product GcMAF, and bleach solution MMS.

He promotes his alternative therapies on his Health Revolution website. But
the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency warns GcMAF poses a
“serious risk” to health.

It has also issued warnings over MMS, which has been linked to at least one
death.

Taylor, 41, has since been investigated by Trading Standards and stopped
selling it.

But de Carle, of Marlborough, Wilts, offered to sell it to autism campaigner
Emma Dalmayne, 39, to give to her young daughter. And he said: “Whatever you
do, don’t give it orally.”

Emma said pushing unregulated products was “child abuse”. And the National
Autistic Society warned against “charlatans peddling dubious cures”.

De Carle denies selling unlicensed medicines.


My father, emeritus professor of physiology and dean of life sciences at UCL has pointed out that Victorian-era UV generation device is capable of blinding people and emitting X-rays when operated by someone who has no strawberry floating clue what they are doing.

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As a scientist how do you feel about this sort of thing? I think it's comparable to eugenics trying to cure, or promoting a made up effort to "cure" in no way supported by any science whatsoever, neurodivergent conditions like autism in order to effectively eradicate people with a permanently different type of brain. It presents a real threat to turning parents and adults away from the care they and their children need and all legitimate socially progressive movements of inclusivity and diversity in the past 50+ years, such as the Autism Act and the work of charities such as Scope and the National Autistic Society to raise awareness.

And yes, the same group running the venue are super into anti-vaccination and blaming heavy metal poisoning and microwaves for every health condition known to man, because, Facebook told them so.

If anyone is interested in popping along to London to gleam this wisdom, here's the flyer. £75. That's just over £10 per hour per person.

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Obviously I've complained about it.

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PostRe: Thing's that annoy u. Is it Friday yet PSML
by Dual » Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:10 pm

Seems legit

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by Cheeky Devlin » Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:45 am

Dual wrote:Seems legit

Dual several days after the event.

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by Green Gecko » Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:14 am

Same guy pedals this shite for £470 and promotes taking turpentine orally (paint thinner) in one of his youtube videos, which is of course highly toxic.



There's even a kid on one of the videos saying they treated autism by praying and are thankful their mum refused to accept it, and everyone should stop accepting autism :simper:. His stimming (wild flapping or making noises, dancing etc to quell anxiety) was a demon in his brain. The kind of bullshit people start following when they fall down this rabbit hole is so sad.

I despair that these kind of charlatans actually get away with existing nevermind making a living out peddling bleach as medicine and so prevent people getting actual help.

Hopefully can get his appearance raised a public health hazard, which it is. I wish I were making it up but this is actually a thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_M ... Supplement

The Guardian described MMS as "extremely nasty stuff, and the medical advice given is that anyone who has this product should stop using it immediately and throw it away. In Canada it was banned after causing a life-threatening reaction."[17] In August 2009, a Mexican woman travelling with her American husband on their yacht in Vanuatu took MMS as a preventative for malaria. Within 15 minutes she was ill, and within twelve hours she was dead.


In 2015 BBC London conducted an undercover investigation into MMS, with a reporter posing as a family member of a person with autism. The BBC reporter was sold two bottles containing sodium chlorite and hydrochloric acid by a self-styled "reverend" Leon Edwards linked to the Genesis II Church in the United States. Edwards told the reporter that the solutions would cure nearly all illnesses and conditions, including cancer, HIV, malaria, autism and Alzheimer's disease. He recommended 27 drops per day for a baby. Laboratory analysis later showed that the concentration of both bottled solutions was stronger than advertised. Edwards told the reporter:

"I put it in my eyes, my nose, my ears, bathe in it, drunk it, breathed it in my lungs. I got injected in my butt with it."[36]

ABC News and KABC-TV investigated the MMS phenomenon in 2016, and uncovered an "underground network" centred around southern California which was promoting the substance as a cure for conditions including cancer, Parkinson's disease and childhood autism.[9]

It was reported in January 2018 that at least six police forces had investigated the use of MMS in the UK, where it continues to be available. Spokespersons for the UK's Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency and the Food Standards Agency repeatedly warned of the dangers of using such a product.[9][37]

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:38 am

It's amazing that people still fall for snake oil salesmen.

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by Festivus Maximus » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:21 am

That guy needs locking up, shameful.

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by Green Gecko » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:20 pm

I complained and they insist on messaging me on Facebook or speaking to me on the phone to convert me over. The conman is still due to be hosted. :fp:

What is there to discuss?

Just cancel the bloody event, this guy is obviously bad news, it's a matter of public record that they are peddling illicit "cures" which literally destroy your intestines. Good luck arguing with or censoring a report in the Times to make a quick buck.

Top tip: don't open an establihsment on the high street and start hosting mentalists with track records of illegal behaviour once you graduate from an energy healing cult Facebook community with 8,500 members full of information-averse idiots.

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by Victor Mistletoe » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:57 am

"Just finished your deliveroo run have you?! :lol: Well done!"

Oh ahaahahahhahahahahah :|

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by Vermi Claus » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:09 am

Went to buy a rail ticket this morning from the ticket booth, and ended up stuck for ages behind someone who wanted to travel on the most complicated route they could think of.

All I wanted was a bloody basic ticket, I had less than 10 mins before my train and yet, I found myself having to wait bloody ages behind some daft bint who didn't even want to travel until Friday!

Oh and I would have used the ticket machine, but that was out if order too.

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by Errkal » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 am

Ad7 wrote:"Just finished your deliveroo run have you?! :lol: Well done!"

Oh ahaahahahhahahahahah :|


Turn the joke on them, join deliveroo wait until you get a delivery for them, then when they open their door throw it in their face.

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by abcd » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:26 am

Vermilion wrote:Went to buy a rail ticket this morning from the ticket booth, and ended up stuck for ages behind someone who wanted to travel on the most complicated route they could think of.

All I wanted was a bloody basic ticket, I had less than 10 mins before my train and yet, I found myself having to wait bloody ages behind some daft bint who didn't even want to travel until Friday!

Oh and I would have used the ticket machine, but that was out if order too.


I suspect this person didn't want to get stuck behind someone on the day that they're travelling and cause unnecessary jeopardy to their travel arrangements.

Sounds like they were planning ahead. That's smart thinking.

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by LewisD » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:51 pm

I'm annoyed by the news about these 39 dead people in Essex today.

Obviously it's very sad that these people have died, but the news keeps calling it a "Lorry container".
Lorry. Container :x

It is not a strawberry floatin' Container!
It's an Articulated Refrigerated Trailer!

Articulated Refrigerated Trailer:
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You can't even confuse it with a Skeleton Trailer ("Skelly Trailer") that is designed for containers:
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by LewisD » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:03 pm

Someone on BBC news just called it a Refridgerated Lorry.

The Truck itself isn't refridgerated!
Jesus wept!

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by Errkal » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:15 pm

LewisD wrote:Someone on BBC news just called it a Refridgerated Lorry.

The Truck itself isn't refridgerated!
Jesus wept!


This is the type of truckist rubbish I’ve come to expect from the BIASED BBC!

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by Rocsteady » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:49 pm

Green Gecko wrote:Quacks. Check out this guy, Clive de Carle, doing a talk in my town, "international health educator".

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(Image taken from his own Facebook profile.)

The same guy promotes administration of industrial-strength bleach solution in the form of MMS ("Miracle Mineral Solution") as a fluid enema (rectal pumping), including in children, in order to cure autism. The theory is, of course, you "cleanse" your gut of pathogens which are giving you cancer, or autism, or whatever the information-averse targets looking for magic pills from predatory con men promoting things such as "frequency healing" sent remotely over magic for just £49 per year... and replace that with a vegan diet and massive mineral/vitamin supplements costing like £90 a bottle. What this actually does, obviously, is bleach your intestines and destroy the natural lining of your gut, amongst other consequences for literally taking bleach up your ass.

Just google the name of this mentalist.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cliv ... -2h2s7pj0t

A British man who claims that diluted bleach can treat autism has been dropped from a conference in Waterford next month.

The Open Minds Ireland Conference includes speakers on topics including “natural health,” “exposing corruption” and “life mysteries”.

Clive de Carle, who describes himself as a specialist in health mastery, was dropped for speaking of the potential benefits of miracle mineral solution (MMS), a type of diluted bleach produced by mixing two chemicals. There is no scientific evidence that it works and it can be actively harmful.

Complaints were lodged against Mr de Carle’s inclusion. In a Facebook post the organisers said: “Clive de Carle has withdrawn from the Open Mind Ireland Conference. We feel this is the best thing for all. We do not advocate any dangerous substances being used on children.”

Mr de Carle said he would attend the conference as a guest and give his talk in another venue. He told The Times that he did not advocate the use of MMS but claimed there was evidence that 500 children who were treated with it had been cured of autism.

“I am not advocating it. I’m advocating research on it. Proper scientific research, that is what I’m advocating, I don’t want to say that I’m advocating the product,” he said.

Asked if it could “cure” autism, he said: “I’m not saying it could, I’m saying, according to the reports, in over 500 cases, it has. That’s an important distinction.”

Mr de Carle was referring to claims by Kerri Rivera, a US advocate for the treatment, who wrote about it in her book Healing the Symptoms Known As Autism. In March Amazon removed the book from its website after a petition gathered nearly 6,000 signatures.

In a phone call uploaded to YouTube in 2016 Mr de Carle offered advice on MMS to the parent of a non-verbal child. He claimed there was “no question” that it had worked for a lot of people but added that he is “not its biggest fan”. He instead recommended “rerum,” an injectable treatment made from human blood.

He initially declined to provide MMS but when pressed by the parent he replied: “Oh, alright, I can send you some.” When asked by the parent how much the MMS cost he said “about a tenner”. He advised that the child take it in the form of an enema, rather than drinking it.

When questioned about the video by The Times, he said: “You may notice I initially declined to supply her. But she told me that she had a non-verbal child, and that she needed somebody who she could trust.”

Mr de Carle’s website claims that he is “one of the world’s leading health researchers” and a specialist in “eliminating blockages such as physical and emotional toxins”. He also sells supplements and access to his “secret health club” for £100.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/ ... heir-kids/

A SELF-STYLED health guru is pushing potentially lethal drugs to desperate
parents trying to help their autistic kids.

Clive de Carle, 60, offered to sell Rerum, which is a stronger form of
unlicensed product GcMAF, and bleach solution MMS.

He promotes his alternative therapies on his Health Revolution website. But
the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency warns GcMAF poses a
“serious risk” to health.

It has also issued warnings over MMS, which has been linked to at least one
death.

Taylor, 41, has since been investigated by Trading Standards and stopped
selling it.

But de Carle, of Marlborough, Wilts, offered to sell it to autism campaigner
Emma Dalmayne, 39, to give to her young daughter. And he said: “Whatever you
do, don’t give it orally.”

Emma said pushing unregulated products was “child abuse”. And the National
Autistic Society warned against “charlatans peddling dubious cures”.

De Carle denies selling unlicensed medicines.


My father, emeritus professor of physiology and dean of life sciences at UCL has pointed out that Victorian-era UV generation device is capable of blinding people and emitting X-rays when operated by someone who has no strawberry floating clue what they are doing.

Karl wrote:

As a scientist how do you feel about this sort of thing? I think it's comparable to eugenics trying to cure, or promoting a made up effort to "cure" in no way supported by any science whatsoever, neurodivergent conditions like autism in order to effectively eradicate people with a permanently different type of brain. It presents a real threat to turning parents and adults away from the care they and their children need and all legitimate socially progressive movements of inclusivity and diversity in the past 50+ years, such as the Autism Act and the work of charities such as Scope and the National Autistic Society to raise awareness.

And yes, the same group running the venue are super into anti-vaccination and blaming heavy metal poisoning and microwaves for every health condition known to man, because, Facebook told them so.

If anyone is interested in popping along to London to gleam this wisdom, here's the flyer. £75. That's just over £10 per hour per person.

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Obviously I've complained about it.

Of course it's got Tesla in the flyer.

This got to me in Belgrade, everyone worshipped the guy as though he was a god with the keys to unlocking the secrets of the universe. Obviously he was an incredibly impressive scientist but the amount of gooseberry fool I see on insta where he created free unlimited energy if only the man hadn't put a stop to it!!1!

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