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by Zilnad » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:41 am

Just put it into rest mode.

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by Winckle » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:09 am

Vermilion wrote:I don't leave the PS4 on all the time, which is why this stuff can take several days.

The solution would appear obvious then.

We should migrate GRcade to Flarum. :toot:
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by Tomous » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:31 am

Zilnad wrote:Just put it into rest mode.



Bingo.

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by <]:^D » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:53 pm

jesus christ Vermillion you plonker :lol:

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by OrangeRKN » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:55 pm

This is like jawa never putting the switch on sleep all over again

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by Jenuall » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:01 pm

:lol:

Just remember you do have to set it to allow downloads whilst in sleep mode though. ;)

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by Vermilion » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:55 pm

:fp:

:oops:

I think we should talk about something else now.

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by Choclet-Milk » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:35 pm

Talking in the cinema should be punishable by death.

I went to watch Jojo Rabbit with the missus, and two women who were certainly old enough to know better spent the entire strawberry floating film talking to each other at full volume, cackling in dead silent parts (even that part), and taking strawberry floating selfies!

Who raised you to be this strawberry floating rude?!

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PostRe: AnnoyiNG things. UNEXPECTED MOANING IN BAGGING AREA.
by Tomous » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:40 pm

What the strawberry float, taking selfies? :lol:

Perfect light for a selfie to be fair.

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by Choclet-Milk » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:41 pm

Tomous wrote:What the strawberry float, taking selfies?:lol:

Perfect light for a selfie to be fair.

It would be- they kept the strawberry floating flash on!

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by <]:^D » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:53 pm

as a teacher i think this type of behaviour is not sorted out at school enough :capnscotty:

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PostRe: AnnoyiNG things. UNEXPECTED MOANING IN BAGGING AREA.
by KK » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:40 pm

AVIVA: "We're not on comparison sites". You bloody are, just another a different name (Quote Me Happy)! Even the website is near identical, just with a different overlay.

How cynical.

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by Moggy » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:43 pm

KK wrote:AVIVA: "We're not on comparison sites". You bloody are, just another a different name (Quote Me Happy)! Even the website is near identical, just with a different overlay.

How cynical.


Even if it was true, I fail to see how that’s a good thing. Why wouldn’t they want us to compare their prices to other companies? Why would I want to click through loads of different websites to find the best deal?

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by Frank » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:16 pm

I think their argument is usually that to list on price-comparison websites the website will take a cut so the price you pay will need to be higher to compensate for the price-comparison website listing. Direct Line used to advertise the same thing, right?

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by KK » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:16 pm

I think those that claim not to be on comparison websites are saying 'we save our best deals for those that come direct to us' because they're supposedly passing on the commission directly to the customer. i.e. we're doing you a favour and saving you time and effort. I don't know if AVIVA is the only company playing this game, but AVIVA said they were offering me their absolute best price for renewal, but I've gone via Comparethemarket and Quote Me Happy and it's saved me 40 quid.

I suppose it's a bit like Sky and NOW Broadband. NOW has routinely been the cheaper option, despite the product and service being identical, but a lot of people are just going to go with the more familiar or premium sounding option.

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by Moggy » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:19 pm

Frank wrote:I think their argument is usually that to list on price-comparison websites the website will take a cut so the price you pay will need to be higher to compensate for the price-comparison website listing. Direct Line used to advertise the same thing, right?


That’s the argument, but does anybody believe them? I don’t believe that Aviva and Direct Line are the cheapest and I’m less likely to check them out if they are hiding away on their own websites.

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PostRe: AnnoyiNG things. UNEXPECTED MOANING IN BAGGING AREA.
by Zilnad » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:48 pm

strawberry float going to a direct site and not using a comparison website :dread:

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by Corazon de Leon » Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:26 pm

I've never heard of any advertising from Aviva about passing the commission onto the customer, though admittedly I don't know much about advertising campaigns etc so I'm happy to be proven wrong about that. I do know that their most recent advertising was about existing customers not receiving a worse quote than new customers.

Probably also worth noting it's only Aviva Direct that don't allow quotes to appear on comparison sites. A couple of companies run by Aviva are on them, but they offer a different, more basic product than the Direct arm of the company. Also, quite a few brokers who are underwritten by Aviva or operate as panel brokers(e.g. Adrian Flux) are on the likes of Compare the Market - I don't know how Direct Line operate, but I'd imagine it's fairly similar.

Regardless, whatever Aviva is doing seems to be working. They're the largest general insurer in the UK, though I think there's just been a merger between Liverpool Victoria and someone that will threaten them going forward.

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by Green Gecko » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:28 pm

Of course those savings aren't actually passed onto the customer but the consumer benefits in other ways. It's about owner ship of trust, if you allow people to keep trusting the comparison websites rather than the actual company offering the service. So it's an antitrust thing. There are more and more middlemen these days and a lot of people don't realise that's what's happening. Facebook for example has monopolised "having friends on the Internet and being able to communicate with them efficiently and en masse" so if you are advertising or selling something better do it there and Facebook can scoop up a share of the profits whereas previously this would go directly to the seller. Google is the gatekeeper for pretty much all information on the Internet so rather than "I know where to find that information" it's "I'll Google it", so to get in front of that queue businesses pay for ads at the top of Google or pay search engine optimisation experts to make sure they are on the front page etc, again more money going to services that aren't the actual service itself.

IF a company refuses to do that then they retain the trust of their users and own that trust rather than deferring it to someone else.

Same reason I try not to use PayPal, if you need to pay something on the Internet now it's "PayPal the only way to pay money safely online" when it is totally safe and free to pay in other ways. In the end it's bad for the consumer because they are given the impression of choice when actually that's a carefully curated marketplace siphoning money off the industry in question where smaller businesses cannot compete with those costs, leading to more monopolies than choices for the consumer. It seems good at first but then it becomes "the no.1 destination" and the invisible gatekeeper of this information is basically just ignored, while making insane profits that should go to new businesses or improving services and often those profits are not taxed in the country where those services are actually rendered (see Facebook, Google, Amazon etc. All the big tech firms paying almost no corporation tax - remember most of the products sold on Amazon aren't stocked by Amazon but by marketplace sellers who are paying for that rather than the product).

People might have thought this would never happen with staying in touch with friends, or finding information. Now all of those multiplicities of ways of doing a thing are put into one place. It's good initially but bad in the long term, so it's a good thing to have options that are not curated by media gatekeepers like that.

Remember Google is the richest tech company in the world (I think overtook Apple recently when merging to form the parent company Alphabet) and 90% of their profits come from advertising in curated experiences they have honed over many many years but in 1995 or so simply didn't exist. That's a LOT of money to come out of nowhere by convincing people "go here to do this thing and don't bother with anything else". Even if the service is good. Except the money hasn't come out of nowhere, it's the same money that would have been put back into businesses and back into jobs and people who pay tax, instead it doesn't benefit society in services rendered or consumer choice or more jobs, it just ends up in other countries or in offshore tax havens where it does nothing except hoarde money for 0.1% richest people. So that money saved by the consumer in some cases costs society a LOT more in the long run and it's part of the problem with the wealth divide. People really should not support such monopolies but in order to get a good deal and get buy on their low incomes they feel forced too... And it all goes round in a circle like that, gradually siphoning money from sensible and responsibly sized businesses (people) and consumers (more people) into corporate hands, all the while those corporations aren't rendering any of the services themselves they are just collecting and presenting them, often with a charge attached for doing so. It's late stage capitalism at it's very finest: maximum profit for minimum effort.

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by Trelliz » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:59 pm

People who when parked up for 10+ minutes just leave their lights on. Thanks strawberry floater, I can now see absolutely nothing behind me and have to avoid looking in my rear mirror to not get blinded, and I'm pretty sure everyone knows you're parked so can turn your indicators off too.

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