Tipping restaurants in America

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PostRe: Tipping restaurants in America
by Lagamorph » Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:43 am

[iup=3653332]mrspax[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3652015]Lagamorph[/iup] wrote:Actually printing tip amounts on the bill? FFS :fp:



Why the face palm? I think you completely miss the point of it. It's not a special feature for tourists you know.

Because if you are going to tip, the level of that tip should be determined by the quality of the service, not by just picking from a pre-defined list where even the minimum might be way more than you feel is appropriate. Why should you tip 15% if the service was utterly terrible?

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PostRe: Tipping restaurants in America
by mrspax » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:04 pm

[iup=3654982]Lagamorph[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3653332]mrspax[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3652015]Lagamorph[/iup] wrote:Actually printing tip amounts on the bill? FFS :fp:



Why the face palm? I think you completely miss the point of it. It's not a special feature for tourists you know.

Because if you are going to tip, the level of that tip should be determined by the quality of the service, not by just picking from a pre-defined list where even the minimum might be way more than you feel is appropriate. Why should you tip 15% if the service was utterly terrible?



You don't tip then.

But don't go whinging just because the sums are already done for the vast majority of people who will. Like I said, it's not there as some prompt to make you overcome your dislike of the American cultural custom. If you think it is, I think you are putting far to much emphasis on your indignation at the concept. No one in America cares! (Except Mr Pink).

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PostRe: Tipping restaurants in America
by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:27 pm

[iup=3653332]mrspax[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3652015]Lagamorph[/iup] wrote:Actually printing tip amounts on the bill? FFS :fp:



Why the face palm? I think you completely miss the point of it. It's not a special feature for tourists you know.

It's done for good reason - remember, Yanks do not even question the social requirement to tip. They just do it. Therefore the numbers at the bottom are there to genuinely help those that can't add up quickly. Some find it difficult to do 17.5% of a bill quickly.

Although that said, most Americans have the calculation almost preprogrammed when handing over the cash.

Sounds like you did the best of a bad situation No 1 FFF. Your cousin's association with the slurping in Japan is irrelevant as it is used as almost an optional thing. It's not expected as a social norm and most importantly, it's not ensuring the person serving you makes a living wage. The function thing is also complete crap. At these s events there is often a tip jar and or the waiting staff are paid a premium to cater for the fact teny will not be receiving direct tips. The cost of eating at such functions is also much higher because it's well understood that eating out in the US is cheap.

Recommend your cousin sticks to the UK where his social expectations won't be affronted!

Ps - How was Nobu? I have been to the London restaurant and thought was pretty good, but it did lose its Michelin stars recently (so can't quite command the price!). Not sure if the LV one is the same.

Thanks for explaining those situations regarding slurping and functions. As at the time I didn't how to respond to my cousin. I'll know what to say now if he says anything like that again though. It just annoys me how someone can say those things and think they have got a good point... :fp: nm

Nobu was good. I had the taster menu with like 8 courses which included the famous black cod miso and the jalapeño yellow tail sashimi. My cousin left out the miso soup course because he said salty foods are bad for you...I couldn't believe he refused to drink it...there was even a couple of clams in the miso soup :)
Service was good too, they explained each dish as they came out and service was quick. At one point I stepped away to the rest room and upon my return my napkin had been folded back into its original shape and placed on the table lol.
But overall even though the food was nice...for the money I don't think I'd eat there again as it didn't appeal to me as much as I hoped it would. Glad I went though. There were two Nobu's in Vegas, one in Caesars Palace (went to this one) and another in Hard Rock hotel.


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