UFC Undisputed 3 announced: PRIDE Mode!

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by Lazy Fair » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:06 pm

I know what Pride is, but I honestly read somewhere that in Pride in this, the fights were set outdoors. Think it was on CVG (and perhaps therefore not very reliable). Outdoor Pride just makes me think of a gooseberry fool backyard wrestling theme.

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PostRe: UFC Undisputed 3 announced: PRIDE Mode!
by zXe » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:01 am

Lazy Fair wrote:I know what Pride is, but I honestly read somewhere that in Pride in this, the fights were set outdoors. Think it was on CVG (and perhaps therefore not very reliable). Outdoor Pride just makes me think of a gooseberry fool backyard wrestling theme.


It won't be anything like that, unless they had totally lost their minds. Never been anything like that associated with MMA. I can't comment on CVG's journalistic quality as I find their website is too in your face with it's layout/scheme.

Also as Floex said, I would probably bet that Fedor will not be in the game, Overeem I don't know as I've not heard anything about his contract. But I would presume his would be similar to say Diaz in that he could be brought over for UFC fights more easily than say Emelianenko, who's contract is strictly controlled by his management-global. He probably has some strict rights with EA.

As far as Undisputed 3 gameplay goes, I'm in two minds. I thought the gameplay in the standup worked well enough in undisputed 2009, but most fighters felt the same to play as, same style kicks for thai fighters etc. Akward movement. I liked the look and feel of EA MMA more, it was more fluid and had better animations that the UFC titles, but those animations became repetitive too quickly, such as the transition movements and takedowns. Both games suffered from the fact that the move sets just weren't deep enough, and despite EA MMA focusing more on individual fighter personality, in thier movement standing, and some of the punches/kicks they threw, the grappling, and submissions all were the same as well as limited. I was also let down by the create a fighter mode in EA MMA. The main selling point for the game was to create your own fighter and train them around the world at different gyms with specific trainers and becoming a champion. Yet the actual creation mode was so limited, basically rushed job I thought. You couldn't even have lengthy hair (I have shoulder length hair :( ). You only get a basic TUF fighter look, tattoos and crew/shaved hair cuts. Let down... (wanted to make myself :shifty:)

A crucial point Undisputed 3 needs to get right this time is the online. I know the first game 2009's was terrible, and EA MMA's matchmaking was awful too, but probably due to so few players online. Players could also exploit the game mechanics, and create high level CAF's (created fighters) to dominate. So these issues need to be better implemented and balanced. The fact they are bringing in pride is a great bonus though, so I'm looking forward to what they'll do with the new control system and hopefully make something something fresh.

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by A J Styles » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:26 pm

This looks strawberry floating amazing :shock:

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PostRe: UFC Undisputed 3 announced: PRIDE Mode!
by zXe » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:43 am

Some more info on the game with one of the devs answering some sent in questions from fans. One thing from it that was interesting is that GSP will also feature in the middleweight division :wub:


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PostRe: UFC Undisputed 3 announced: PRIDE Mode!
by Cumberdanes » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:54 am

I never understood Pride's rules. For example elbow strikes were totally illegal in Pride but in UFC they are allowed just not downward point of elbow strikes, yet in Pride you could boot a guy in the head when he's on the deck which is totally taboo in UFC. Pride was responsible for some pretty awesome fights however, anyone looking for an amazing brawl should check out Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama from Pride 21. As Good Ol' JR would put it its a slobberknocker!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf420h ... yama_sport

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by zXe » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:21 am

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:I never understood Pride's rules. For example elbow strikes were totally illegal in Pride but in UFC they are allowed just not downward point of elbow strikes, yet in Pride you could boot a guy in the head when he's on the deck which is totally taboo in UFC. Pride was responsible for some pretty awesome fights however, anyone looking for an amazing brawl should check out Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama from Pride 21. As Good Ol' JR would put it its a slobberknocker!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf420h ... yama_sport


Pride rule differences from the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts

Some states' athletic commissions require mixed martial arts events to modify rules to match the Mixed Martial Arts Unified Rules of Combat, as introduced by the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board, and adopted by the Nevada State Athletic Commission in order to receive state sanctioning.

Pride's rules differed from the Unified Rules of Combat in the following ways:

* Pride allows kicking and kneeing the head of a downed opponent. This is considered a foul in the Unified Rules, which only allows kicks and knees to the head of a standing opponent.
* Pride allows a fighter to stomp the head of a downed opponent. This is considered a foul in the Unified Rules.
* Pride allows a fighter to spike (piledriver) an opponent onto the canvas on his head or neck. This is considered a foul in the Unified Rules.
* Pride does not allow elbow strikes to the head of an opponent. The Unified rules allows elbows provided they are not striking directly down with the point of the elbow.
* Pride's matches include a ten minute first round, with two minute rest periods. The Unified rules allow rounds no longer than five minutes, with rest periods not exceeding one minute.
* Pride's matches are not judged on the ten point must system, rather judges score the whole fight. The Unified rules call for all matches to be judged using the ten point must system.

At the announcement on March 27, 2007 that the Fertittas are purchasing Pride, it was stated that all future Pride events (after Pride 34) would be held under Unified Rules, eliminating 10 minute opening rounds, ground knees, stomps and more, though there were no more Pride events held to use these rules.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_Figh ... mpionships

Basically Pride was originally owned by japanese promoters Kakutougi Revolution Spirits, which was then was took over by Dream Stage Entertainment. As all the Pride events were held in Japan, they were not governed by any athletic commission like in North America. That is at least until Pride 32 which was the first US Pride event and it's debut in North America, thus had to adopt the unified rules.

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by Cumberdanes » Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:40 am

zXe wrote:
IAmTheSaladMan wrote:I never understood Pride's rules. For example elbow strikes were totally illegal in Pride but in UFC they are allowed just not downward point of elbow strikes, yet in Pride you could boot a guy in the head when he's on the deck which is totally taboo in UFC. Pride was responsible for some pretty awesome fights however, anyone looking for an amazing brawl should check out Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama from Pride 21. As Good Ol' JR would put it its a slobberknocker!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf420h ... yama_sport


Pride rule differences from the Unified Rules of Mixed Martial Arts

Some states' athletic commissions require mixed martial arts events to modify rules to match the Mixed Martial Arts Unified Rules of Combat, as introduced by the New Jersey State Athletic Control Board, and adopted by the Nevada State Athletic Commission in order to receive state sanctioning.


Pride's rules differed from the Unified Rules of Combat in the following ways:

* Pride allows kicking and kneeing the head of a downed opponent. This is considered a foul in the Unified Rules, which only allows kicks and knees to the head of a standing opponent.
* Pride allows a fighter to stomp the head of a downed opponent. This is considered a foul in the Unified Rules.
* Pride allows a fighter to spike (piledriver) an opponent onto the canvas on his head or neck. This is considered a foul in the Unified Rules.
* Pride does not allow elbow strikes to the head of an opponent. The Unified rules allows elbows provided they are not striking directly down with the point of the elbow.
* Pride's matches include a ten minute first round, with two minute rest periods. The Unified rules allow rounds no longer than five minutes, with rest periods not exceeding one minute.
* Pride's matches are not judged on the ten point must system, rather judges score the whole fight. The Unified rules call for all matches to be judged using the ten point must system.

At the announcement on March 27, 2007 that the Fertittas are purchasing Pride, it was stated that all future Pride events (after Pride 34) would be held under Unified Rules, eliminating 10 minute opening rounds, ground knees, stomps and more, though there were no more Pride events held to use these rules.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_Figh ... mpionships

Basically Pride was originally owned by japanese promoters Kakutougi Revolution Spirits, which was then was took over by Dream Stage Entertainment. As all the Pride events were held in Japan, they were not governed by any athletic commission like in North America. That is at least until Pride 32 which was the first US Pride event and it's debut in North America, thus had to adopt the unified rules.


Yeah I've read the rules online before myself. They just don't make sense to me. I don't get why dangerous moves such as piledrivers and soccer kicks are legal. They pose a serious risk to the fighters, I get it that it's a contact sport and that they know what they're getting themselves into but that doesn't make it cool.

I wonder how the game will simulate Pride's famously bias referees. Pehaps when you're kicking the gooseberry fool out of say Kazushi Sakuraba the in game ref will just let it go hoping for him to make a superman like come back in the closing minutes just like in real Pride.

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PostRe: UFC Undisputed 3 announced: PRIDE Mode!
by zXe » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:30 am

lol...

Reading though the rules again I was quite surprised that a spiked piledriver was actually even allowed, if they knew the danger in that kind of move, seems odd they would not make it a foul. However regarding the soccer kicks, I have no issue with them so much, I think they can be defended quite well if you're a smart fighter. I think It' more of a case of not allowing yourself to get in a situation where you're prone to getting kicked in the head on the ground...obviously. With foot stomps, quite fun to watch, but I can understand more now why they should be a foul, as they cause nasty cuts quite easily. That being said, I do like watching them. :shifty:

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by PCCD » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:33 pm

Wouldn't mind seeing how the competitive fighting crowd take to this. If they bitch about the ground game or impose rules on what you can do grapplingwise I will throw a tantrum.

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by Dblock » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:31 pm

IAmTheSaladMan wrote:I never understood Pride's rules. For example elbow strikes were totally illegal in Pride but in UFC they are allowed just not downward point of elbow strikes, yet in Pride you could boot a guy in the head when he's on the deck which is totally taboo in UFC. Pride was responsible for some pretty awesome fights however, anyone looking for an amazing brawl should check out Don Frye vs Yoshihiro Takayama from Pride 21. As Good Ol' JR would put it its a slobberknocker!

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf420h ... yama_sport


If pride rules still exist Fedor would have killed Dan Hendo with foot stomps.

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by Dblock » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:36 pm

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My god. I'm so hyped for this. They should've released it this year.

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PostRe: UFC Undisputed 3 announced: PRIDE Mode!
by zXe » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:53 pm



Looks pretty good, but the sound effects in that trailer :fp: I hope the striking doesn't sound that gooseberry fool in the finished game.

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by Dblock » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:45 am

Leg TKO's?

What? I understand crippling someone but to actually TKO them with leg kicks to the leg is just bit gooseberry fool.

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PostRe: UFC Undisputed 3 announced: PRIDE Mode!
by False » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:49 pm

Well, it happens in real life I guess. I suppose you just have to hope its rare and hard to pull off. Perhaps you need a particular fighter skillset to do it or something.

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by zXe » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:02 pm

Just don't play against jose aldo as uriah faber

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by Dblock » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:47 pm

Falsey wrote:Well, it happens in real life I guess. I suppose you just have to hope its rare and hard to pull off. Perhaps you need a particular fighter skillset to do it or something.


Well I have not seen it so far but the worst I've seen is Aldo vs Faber but even that didn't tko him even though he got literally carried out the cage after the fight and was hospitalised. :lol:

You should see the video faber made of his legs a day after the fight. It was a mess.

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PostRe: UFC Undisputed 3 announced: PRIDE Mode!
by False » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:42 pm

Im sure Ive seen at least one where it had to stop because the guy physically couldnt stand anymore. May have been a UFC undercard.

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by PCCD » Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:37 pm



So it can be done.

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