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Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:25 pm**

Eighthours wrote:If Cameron gets a token gesture from his renegotiations (which he will - it'll be something that looks flashy on the surface but pretty meaningless underneath), then the Yes side will walk the EU referendum. I've never got Labour's line on denying people this vote - it's an authoritarian, condescending and pretty stupid attitude, although treating the public like fools has for too long been a Labour flaw.

Yes we'll stay, or yes we'll go?

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:27 pm**

If i stay there will be trouble.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:30 pm**

ProPoser wrote:
Cal wrote:stopping Labour at all costs was my No.1 priority. Job done.

You're like some kind of hero. How did you pull it off?

I voted Tory. It was simple.

In other news:

twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/597483138261131264

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:33 pm**

What sword?

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:35 pm**

Cal wrote:
ProPoser wrote:
Cal wrote:stopping Labour at all costs was my No.1 priority. Job done.

You're like some kind of hero. How did you pull it off?

I voted Tory. It was simple.

"At all costs," indeed.

What hardship you have suffered to help our country. And they say soldiers and nurses have it bad.

#Martyr

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:41 pm**

To be fair to Cal, it has cost him £10billion in unspecified cuts, as well as the right to adopt anytime within the next five years.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:42 pm**

ProPoser wrote:
Cal wrote:
ProPoser wrote:
Cal wrote:stopping Labour at all costs was my No.1 priority. Job done.

You're like some kind of hero. How did you pull it off?

I voted Tory. It was simple.

"At all costs," indeed.

What hardship you have suffered to help our country. And they say soldiers and nurses have it bad.

#Martyr

So the paucity of your argument is to resort to personal attacks and fantasy hashtags? Things are worse than I thought. :lol:

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:44 pm**

I don't think he's trying to start an argument. This isn't a DISC thread, I think he's just messing with you.

The lack of winkies is throwing people off, isn't it? Here, everybody take some of these, and use them liberally.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:44 pm**

Dan. wrote:
Eighthours wrote:If Cameron gets a token gesture from his renegotiations (which he will - it'll be something that looks flashy on the surface but pretty meaningless underneath), then the Yes side will walk the EU referendum. I've never got Labour's line on denying people this vote - it's an authoritarian, condescending and pretty stupid attitude, although treating the public like fools has for too long been a Labour flaw.

Yes we'll stay, or yes we'll go?

Yes we'll stay. Sorry, that really wasn't clear at all. I was in a hurry. :lol:

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:45 pm**

Cal wrote:So the paucity of your argument is to resort to personal attacks and fantasy hashtags? Things are worse than I thought.

No, I was simply pointing out how overblown, pompous and downright preposterous you are. I was pointing this out because you really don't seem to realise, and I think you'd get people's backs up far less if you toned down the ridiculous rhetoric.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:47 pm**

Cal wrote:
ProPoser wrote:
Cal wrote:stopping Labour at all costs was my No.1 priority. Job done.

You're like some kind of hero. How did you pull it off?

I voted Tory. It was simple.

In other news:

twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/597483138261131264

No doubt Ed Balls will get a by-election opportunity at some point, but surely the Labour party aren't stupid enough to set this into motion for at least a couple of years! Robinson's majority is only 4,500 with the Tories in second place, and if they parachute Balls in early, enough of those 7,000 UKIP votes from the General Election could easily go to the Tories in protest to defeat him again.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:50 pm**

Eighthours wrote:If Cameron gets a token gesture from his renegotiations (which he will - it'll be something that looks flashy on the surface but pretty meaningless underneath), then the Yes side will walk the EU referendum. I've never got Labour's line on denying people this vote - it's an authoritarian, condescending and pretty stupid attitude, although treating the public like fools has for too long been a Labour flaw.

Wasn't there a referendum on it originally though? I'm not old enough to remember.

That's one more referendum than many other issues.

Talking of which, we have the internet at our disposal and we should be using it regularly to vote on these kind of things. Then we could save money and slim down parliament.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:53 pm**

Eighthours wrote:
Cal wrote:
ProPoser wrote:
Cal wrote:stopping Labour at all costs was my No.1 priority. Job done.

You're like some kind of hero. How did you pull it off?

I voted Tory. It was simple.

In other news:

twitter.com/JasonCowleyNS/status/597483138261131264

No doubt Ed Balls will get a by-election opportunity at some point, but surely the Labour party aren't stupid enough to set this into motion for at least a couple of years! Robinson's majority is only 4,500 with the Tories in second place, and if they parachute Balls in early, enough of those 7,000 UKIP votes from the General Election could easily go to the Tories in protest to defeat him again.

I don't know I'm starting to think that all politicians are out of touch with how the public think. Especially the Liberal Democrats how could they have not seen that wipe out coming from miles around.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 1:56 pm**

'Starting'? :lol:

They've been out of touch for a while.

The Lib Dems did well when they promised an alternative to the other two and had conviction. Their campaign this election was "Errr, how about things stay the same, yah?" Have a strawberry floating opinion. Have some policies, even if you will just ignore them and jump into bed with the Tories again. At least promise to do something rather than nothing.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 2:00 pm**

Eighthours wrote:
Dan. wrote:
Eighthours wrote:If Cameron gets a token gesture from his renegotiations (which he will - it'll be something that looks flashy on the surface but pretty meaningless underneath), then the Yes side will walk the EU referendum. I've never got Labour's line on denying people this vote - it's an authoritarian, condescending and pretty stupid attitude, although treating the public like fools has for too long been a Labour flaw.

Yes we'll stay, or yes we'll go?

Yes we'll stay. Sorry, that really wasn't clear at all. I was in a hurry.

No worries. It was quite critical to the post so I thought I'd best ask. :lol:

I don't think we'd vote to leave the EU either. But someone commented here last week that if we're a smart enough nation to assign so much of the popular vote to a party like UKIP, and considering that the LEAVE campaign will more likely be more impassioned and aggressive than the STAY campaign, a vote for exit could happen. :dread:

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 2:28 pm**

Dan. wrote:
Eighthours wrote:
Dan. wrote:
Eighthours wrote:If Cameron gets a token gesture from his renegotiations (which he will - it'll be something that looks flashy on the surface but pretty meaningless underneath), then the Yes side will walk the EU referendum. I've never got Labour's line on denying people this vote - it's an authoritarian, condescending and pretty stupid attitude, although treating the public like fools has for too long been a Labour flaw.

Yes we'll stay, or yes we'll go?

Yes we'll stay. Sorry, that really wasn't clear at all. I was in a hurry.

No worries. It was quite critical to the post so I thought I'd best ask.

I don't think we'd vote to leave the EU either. But someone commented here last week that if we're a smart enough nation to assign so much of the popular vote to a party like UKIP, and considering that the LEAVE campaign will more likely be more impassioned and aggressive than the STAY campaign, a vote for exit could happen.

It will be interesting. I imagine a lot of the funding from bankers will back the leave campaign so they are not as regulated out of Europe.

I'm not sure how the media would vote though

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 2:40 pm**

BID0 wrote:I imagine a lot of the funding from bankers will back the leave campaign so they are not as regulated out of Europe.

I disagree, don't many large banks and corps base themselves in the UK so as to trade throughout the EU?

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 3:05 pm**

Yeah the banks will be pushing for the UK to stay in the EU.

HSBC have more or less said they'll move their headquarters out of the UK if it leaves the EU.

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 3:12 pm**

Lagamorph wrote:Yeah the banks will be pushing for the UK to stay in the EU.

HSBC have more or less said they'll move their headquarters out of the UK if it leaves the EU.

They won't be the only ones, either. Hopefully the threat of so many job losses will be enough to make people see sense and vote to stay.

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