UK General Election 2015

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Shadow** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:16 pm

Memento Mori wrote:Murdoch doesn't even like David Cameron. According to Private Eye his favourite UK politician is Alex Salmond.

He doesn't need to like him, he just needs to know his puppet will give him the EU referendum he wants.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by KK » Fri May 08, 2015 9:20 pm

Murdoch and Cameron could in fact be lovers, but this never ending myth that Murdoch now influences enough votes to make a meaningful difference with a couple of newspapers with declining sales on a daily basis is absurd.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Lagamorph** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:20 pm

Shares in Bacofoil must be through the roof with the nutcases in here.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Memento Mori** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:22 pm

Shadow wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:Murdoch doesn't even like David Cameron. According to Private Eye his favourite UK politician is Alex Salmond.

He doesn't need to like him, he just needs to know his puppet will give him the EU referendum he wants.

A Rupert Murdoch puppet is unlikely to have ordered the Leveson Inquiry.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Shadow** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:22 pm

Lagamorph wrote:Shares in Bacofoil must be through the roof with the nutcases in here.

Is that directed at me? Even after John Major went to the Leveson Enquiry and said that while he was PM, Murdoch threatened he'd throw his full support behind Labour if Major wouldn't take the UK out of the EU? (Major refused, and sure enough Murdoch backed Blair into No. 10)

That's not a conspiracy theory, that's what John Major went and said in front of a parliamentary enquiry.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Lagamorph** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:22 pm

Shadow wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Shares in Bacofoil must be through the roof with the nutcases in here.

Is that directed at me? Even after John Major went to the Leveson Enquiry and said that while he was PM Murdoch threatened he'd throw his full support behind Labour if Major wouldn't take the UK out of the EU?

That's not a conspiracy theory, that's what John Major went and said in front of a parliamentary enquiry.

Ok. And? So what? Murdoch can say whatever the hell he wants, doesn't mean it'll amount to anything.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Shadow** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:24 pm

So we have primary evidence that Murdoch is willing to use his media empire to blackmail our country's leader.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by KK » Fri May 08, 2015 9:24 pm

In this election if Cameron had refused an EU referendum I think Murdoch still would have backed Cameron. He was never going to go with UKIP because Murdoch only backs winners.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Lagamorph** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:25 pm

No we don't. We have a man throwing a bit of a hissy at not getting his own way, so going off to back someone else in a huff.

I don't think Blackmail means what you think it means.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Shadow** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:28 pm

Watch that to the end. Murdoch was attempting to blackmail John Major.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Lagamorph** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:29 pm

Blackmail him with what? A threat to not support him? That's not blackmail.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by KK » Fri May 08, 2015 9:30 pm

Well back then not getting the backing of The Sun or The Times would have been curtains for him. Oh, and the News of the World.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Shadow** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:35 pm

A threat to switch his support from Conservative, to the other guys. A threat he followed through on.

At the end of the video John Major even says:
"It is not very often someone sits in front of a Prime Minister and asks him to change his policy, and if you don't change your policy we will not support you"

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Lagamorph** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:37 pm

Is this a game of Guess Who?

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Parksey** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:38 pm

Laga, accusing people arguing against you of being biased is a little much, when you seem equally equally as biased in the opposite direction.

Threatening to withdraw support if you don't follow a course of action is blackmail. Just because it doesn't prescribe to your political viewpoint doesn't make it any less of a threat.

Whether the situation today is the same as 1992 is highly debatable to say the least, mind.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Lagamorph** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:42 pm

I'm not saying he's biased. I'm saying he's paranoid.

Eighthours wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Eighthours wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Great, five more years to march headlong into an American healthcare oblivion, despite all evidence that universal and single payer systems are far cheaper, more equitable and just all round superior to the American model.

Best get ready to shell out hundreds of pounds for ridiculous insurance premiums and out of pocket costs, everyone.

I love the hyperbole. I hope I remember to quote this in 5 years when the NHS is still free.

How many contracts will have been sold off to private companies by then?

Even if that happens (and I don't think it will happen anywhere near as much as you think), it's still nothing like what you said in your other post.

Didn't a Conservative go to the US to bash the NHS for the idiots here? Or was that a UKIPper? Might've been that one UKIP MEP who Cal has such a boner for.

Anyway, they've always struck me as the party which would, if at all possible, revert British healthcare back to the pre-NHS era, where the poor didn't get any healthcare and were practically left to rot by the state. The makes far more economic sense to go single payer or remain universal, but these people are reminiscent of Republicans - they'd rather get a cushy post-political job in some big company's board of directors than do right by the people.

That Labour stone thing cost 30k? :shock:

I wonder why people didn't trust them with the economy :lol:

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Lagamorph** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:49 pm

Final tally of lost Lib Dem deposits was £170,000.

PostRe: UK General Election 2015 by **Ario** » Fri May 08, 2015 9:54 pm

Captain Kinopio wrote:That Labour stone thing cost 30k?

I wonder why people didn't trust them with the economy

I actually thought the stone was a good idea :shifty:

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