UK General Election 2015

Lagamorph wrote:

Fatal Exception wrote:

Lagamorph wrote:

Fatal Exception wrote:You can't just dismiss 'democracy' as being a vote in an outdated and unfair electoral system. It doesn't matter who got the majority.

Yes it does.

Yeah cut out the part of that post which gives that second part context. It seems you don't understand, or want to understand how politics in this country works.

No matter the context, the statement was just plain wrong. Who got the majority absolutely does matter, whatever the voting system.

OK since you're continuing to ignore the parts you cut out of my post I will type them again. With more words. Parliament does not proportionately represent the UK. It actually doesn't matter who proportionately gets the most votes in . In theory, someone could get the most seats without having the most votes (although it would be a close election if that happened). If the house of commons proportionately represented the whole of the UK, no one would care if the Tories/Labour or even strawberry floating UKIP got the biggest chunk and were in charge. The votes cast on our behalf would represent us and our vote wouldn't be thrown away because not enough people with the same views lived in the same part of the same town.

Lucien wrote:

Denster wrote:Some of the drivel posted in here about lack of democracy is astonishing. Risible sentiments from malcontent little bitches.

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Loved all the saltiness in the last 48 hours or so from people who didn't get the results they wanted.

Why shouldn't they if they disagree with decisions? As long as they voted, they absolutely are allowed their opinion. This gooseberry fool absolutely matters. Just because you got everything you wanted, doesn't mean you get to laugh at those who didn't.

Mind you a Tory supporter probably would support the happier getting happier and the sad getting sadder.

Lucien wrote:

Denster wrote:Some of the drivel posted in here about lack of democracy is astonishing. Risible sentiments from malcontent little bitches.

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Loved all the saltiness in the last 48 hours or so from people who didn't get the results they wanted.

Hardly anyone here voted UKIP (I think) yet they want the voting system changed; I voted SNP who won out of FPTP and I want it changed. But yes, we're a bunch of bitches.

Yup, I voted Labour, who would actually have done virtually the same in both systems. Yet it's the way the millions who voted UKIP and Green have been shafted that makes me want PR.

If it was a Tory/UKIP coalition in control I'd like to see the reaction. UKIP policy is simply more radical, hard-line Conservative.

Denster wrote:Maybe they don't want to give publicity to twats?

But Cameron and Osborne have been getting loads of stories

KKLEIN wrote:

DML wrote:Whatever your opinion on the protests and the riots (I'm not willing to wade in on that one) you must at least admit its absolutely CRAZY its not being reported on in nearly every major media outlet? Now that IS wrong.

It's being reported by Sky News, The Daily Telegraph, Mirror, and Daily Mail.

The BBC website for whatever reason aren't. I haven't watched the News on TV.

It's been covered on the election live page

Lotus wrote:Sturgeon still moaning

Despite Scotland getting its own parliament, the Scotland Act of 1998 and 2012, numerous other devolved powers, and a referendum on staying in the UK, today she says that Scotland will "no longer be sidelined or ignored". Yes, that's what's been happening hasn't it. What a cretinous woman.

Always strawberry floating moaning about how hard done by they are.

Exactly. I really want Scotland to gain independence and just strawberry float off. The SNP are so bloody annoying.

Hexx wrote:

KKLEIN wrote:

DML wrote:Whatever your opinion on the protests and the riots (I'm not willing to wade in on that one) you must at least admit its absolutely CRAZY its not being reported on in nearly every major media outlet? Now that IS wrong.

It's being reported by Sky News, The Daily Telegraph, Mirror, and Daily Mail.

The BBC website for whatever reason aren't. I haven't watched the News on TV.

It's been covered on the election live page

Oh, well there you go then; all the major outlets reporting.

Vandalising a war memorial when a VE Day concert is going on is possibly the thickest thing any protester has ever done. And that's a big list. Way to make headlines for the wrong reason!

The People's Assembly is Owen Jones's group, btw. I'm sure he's very proud.

I'm sure it'll make the front pages of tomorrow's papers. An example will be made of the individual who did it if the police find him/her and then leaked to the press who will probably reveal it's a rich, white kid who is the son of a banker.

In fact a lot of these protesters over the years have ended up being outed as rather well-off...oddly.

Ha ha, Laurie Penny has tweeted that she has 'no problem with this'. Words fail me. What an amazing bubble she must live in.

I never seem to have any clue who these Twitter people are.

For what it's worth Bob from Cornwall just tweeted he's getting sucked off in the back of his camper van if anyone is interested.

Only found tomorrows cover for the mail so far


This is what the cover was going to be before the 'protest'

Well if the Mail hates it then it must be a good thing.

A front page the News of the Screws would have been proud of.

As mentioned on Sky News, if those campaigning for PR were to get what they wanted they'd have ended up with one of the most right wing governments the UK has seen in decades and decades. Conservatives and UKIP...what a prospect.

KKLEIN wrote:As mentioned on Sky News, if those campaigning for PR were to get what they wanted they'd have ended up with one of the most right wing governments the UK has seen in decades and decades. Conservatives and UKIP...what a prospect.

Brings new meaning to the term 'useful idiots'.

I don't feel strongly about the voting system either way but the fact the current system kept one fairly popular, bigoted party and another economically illiterate, scientifically naïve one away from any real decision making is probably a good thing.

Lotus wrote:Sturgeon still moaning

Despite Scotland getting its own parliament, the Scotland Act of 1998 and 2012, numerous other devolved powers, and a referendum on staying in the UK, today she says that Scotland will "no longer be sidelined or ignored". Yes, that's what's been happening hasn't it. What a cretinous woman.

Always strawberry floating moaning about how hard done by they are.

I don't get how she doesn't see her own hypocrisy. Bleating on about a voice being heard, whilst before the election she basically campaigned on shutting out the voice of what always looked likely to be the biggest party in England.

Hime wrote: and another economically illiterate, scientifically naïve one away from any real decision making is probably a good thing.

I thought they won?