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Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:09 pm
by Dual
Had an email from the Green Party asking for donations so they can put up a candidate in every seat for Worcestershire. Going to give them something and will probably vote for them.

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:31 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Twitter people being retweeted by Laura K seem convinced this Remain alliance is actually happening :nod:.

Glorious victory awaits :datass:

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:34 pm
by Hexx

twitter.com/DerbyChrisW/status/1192192053612077065


Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:36 pm
by <]:^D
getting sick and tired of these cookie cutter resignation twitter announcements
cant the next person just say "strawberry float it im out"

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:43 pm
by Garth
Williamson was already barred from standing as a Labour candidate :P

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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:50 pm
by Drumstick
<]:^D wrote:getting sick and tired of these cookie cutter resignation twitter announcements
cant the next person just say "strawberry float it im out"

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Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:07 pm
by Hexx
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... toral-pact

PC, Greens and LibDems make a pact for only 1 remain party to stand in 60 seats

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:29 pm
by Tineash
Fielding candidates against sitting Labour MPs, excluding the few who voted for the Boris deal, is self-indulgent & dumb as strawberry float.

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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:45 am
by Rex Kramer
I'd imagine it's because they're a Remain alliance.

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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:45 am
by Moggy
Tineash wrote:Fielding candidates against sitting Labour MPs, excluding the few who voted for the Boris deal, is self-indulgent & dumb as strawberry float.


Does the same apply to Labour fielding candidates against sitting Lib Dem/PC/Green MPs?

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:01 pm
by KK
BBC News wrote:Labour voters should support Boris Johnson in the general election, former Labour MP Ian Austin has said.

The former minister resigned from the party in February, accusing leader Jeremy Corbyn of failing to tackle anti-Semitism.

Mr Austin, MP for Dudley North, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that Mr Corbyn was "completely unfit" to be PM.

Asked about his comments, Labour's Rebecca Long Bailey said telling people to vote Conservative was "absurd".

The shadow business secretary said Mr Austin had done "great work" as an MP but added that it wasn't "any secret" that he had differences with the Labour leader.

Chief Secretary to the Treasury Rishi Sunak called Mr Austin's comments a "truly devastating indictment of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership".

Speaking to the Express and Star newspaper, Mr Austin also announced he would be standing down as MP for Dudley North - a seat he held at the 2017 election with a majority of just 22.

He said: "I am so sorry that it has come to this, but as has always been the case, I have to do what I think is right."

He added: "I must do everything I can to stop Jeremy Corbyn from getting into power."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50330007

twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1192407382409781248



Another good reason to register to vote (even if you don't ultimately vote):

BBC News wrote:Q - Does registering to vote improve your credit score?

A - It can do. Registering to vote puts you on the electoral roll, which helps banks and other lenders verify your identity.

A higher credit score can make it easier to borrow money or enter into financial agreements such as a mortgage or mobile phone contract, and may mean you get a better repayment rate. This could be particularly useful to younger people who haven't had a chance to build up much of a credit rating yet.

Not being on the electoral register may also slow down the lending process, as you could be asked for more documents to verify your identity.

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:16 pm
by captain red dog
Interesting watching the news that they don't seem to be mentioning that Ian Austin is on the Boris Johnson payroll.

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:16 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Liberal Democrat Unite to Remain statement:

We (and the Green party) are standing aside for Plaid Cymru in the following Welsh seats:
Arfon (Held)

Dwyfor Meirionnydd (Held)

Carmarthen East and Dinefwr (Held)

Ynys Mon

Pontypridd

Caerphilly

Llanelli

We (and Plaid Cymru) are standing aside for the Green party in the following Welsh seat:
Vale of Glamorgan

We are standing aside for the Green party in the following English seats:
Brighton Pavilion (Held)

Isle of Wight

Bury St Edmunds

Bristol West

Stroud

Dulwich & West Norwood

Cannock Chase

Exeter

Forest of Dean

Plaid Cymru and the Green party are standing aside for us in the following Welsh seats:
Brecon & Radnorshire (Held)

Cardiff Central

Montgomeryshire

The Green party are standing aside for us in the following English seats:
Bath (Held)

North Norfolk (Held)

Oxford West & Abingdon (Held)

South Cambridgeshire (Held)

Totnes (Held)

Twickenham (Held)

Westmorland & Lonsdale (Held)

Bermondsey & Old Southwark

Buckingham

Cheadle

Chelmsford

Chelsea & Fulham

Cheltenham

Chippenham

Esher & Walton

Finchley & Golders Green

Guildford

Harrogate

Hazel Grove

Hitchin & Harpenden

North Cornwall

Penistone & Stocksbridge

Portsmouth South

Richmond Park

Romsey & Southampton North

Rushcliffe

South East Cambridgeshire

South West Surrey

Southport

Taunton Deane

Thornbury & Yate

Tunbridge Wells

Wantage

Warrington South

Watford

Wells

Wimbledon

Winchester

Witney

York Outer

This a bold move by all concerned for the cause of Remain, and the choices involved have been hard ones.

No decisions have been taken lightly, and we owe a debt of gratitude to the candidates and local parties who have taken the principled and generous decisions to step aside at this election.

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:21 pm
by Lex-Man
KK wrote:

twitter.com/MattChorley/status/1192407382409781248



Another good reason to register to vote (even if you don't ultimately vote):

BBC News wrote:Q - Does registering to vote improve your credit score?

A - It can do. Registering to vote puts you on the electoral roll, which helps banks and other lenders verify your identity.

A higher credit score can make it easier to borrow money or enter into financial agreements such as a mortgage or mobile phone contract, and may mean you get a better repayment rate. This could be particularly useful to younger people who haven't had a chance to build up much of a credit rating yet.

Not being on the electoral register may also slow down the lending process, as you could be asked for more documents to verify your identity.


Although I'd actually like to lower my credit score. My bank told me that I got get a credit card with £8000 limit. The idea of having instant access to borrow that much is scary.

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:28 pm
by Jenuall
Whilst I applaud the sentiment and effort behind what Plaid, the Greens and Lib Dems are going it still feels fairly pointless. For a "remain pact" to have any real value it needs to include Labour.

I'm not intimately familiar with the majority of the seats mentioned above but the ones I do know about (Cheltenham and Cardiff Central) this will have very little impact. Cardiff Central is a strong Labour seat so this is irrelevant and Cheltenham, whilst certainly there is a battle here between LD and Tories the Greens dropping out of the race will barely make a dent in the gap between them. Getting Labour on board would have stood a good chance of tipping that seat in favour of the Lib Dems though.

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:32 pm
by Cuttooth

twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1192400952210477056


Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:34 pm
by Rex Kramer
Jenuall wrote:Whilst I applaud the sentiment and effort behind what Plaid, the Greens and Lib Dems are going it still feels fairly pointless. For a "remain pact" to have any real value it needs to include Labour.

I'm not intimately familiar with the majority of the seats mentioned above but the ones I do know about (Cheltenham and Cardiff Central) this will have very little impact. Cardiff Central is a strong Labour seat so this is irrelevant and Cheltenham, whilst certainly there is a battle here between LD and Tories the Greens dropping out of the race will barely make a dent in the gap between them. Getting Labour on board would have stood a good chance of tipping that seat in favour of the Lib Dems though.

But it can't because Labour aren't explicitly a remain party.

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:36 pm
by Jenuall
Rex Kramer wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Whilst I applaud the sentiment and effort behind what Plaid, the Greens and Lib Dems are going it still feels fairly pointless. For a "remain pact" to have any real value it needs to include Labour.

I'm not intimately familiar with the majority of the seats mentioned above but the ones I do know about (Cheltenham and Cardiff Central) this will have very little impact. Cardiff Central is a strong Labour seat so this is irrelevant and Cheltenham, whilst certainly there is a battle here between LD and Tories the Greens dropping out of the race will barely make a dent in the gap between them. Getting Labour on board would have stood a good chance of tipping that seat in favour of the Lib Dems though.

But it can't because Labour aren't explicitly a remain party.

Their policy is essentially the same as Labour, this is a direct quote from their website:

The Liberal Democrats want to give you the final say on the Brexit deal

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:37 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Jenuall wrote:Whilst I applaud the sentiment and effort behind what Plaid, the Greens and Lib Dems are going it still feels fairly pointless. For a "remain pact" to have any real value it needs to include Labour.

I'm not intimately familiar with the majority of the seats mentioned above but the ones I do know about (Cheltenham and Cardiff Central) this will have very little impact. Cardiff Central is a strong Labour seat so this is irrelevant and Cheltenham, whilst certainly there is a battle here between LD and Tories the Greens dropping out of the race will barely make a dent in the gap between them. Getting Labour on board would have stood a good chance of tipping that seat in favour of the Lib Dems though.

Labour were invited to join but refused.

Realistically, we're hoping for a significant minority of non-Tory/Labour Remain MPs that will wield enough power to force a second referendum through whatever sort of government we end up with.

Re: UK General Election, 12th December 2019     | Forum poll | Opinion polling | Manifestos & campaigns | Tactical votin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:52 pm
by satriales
Some interesting seat choices by the remain alliance.
Guildford was over 50% Tory but Anne Milton has now become an independent and it is a remain area, so there is a small chance of an upset.

The other two Surrey seats they've gone for are currently held by Dominic Raab and Jeremy Hunt, but again both are remain areas and I can see a lot of moderate Tories switching to Lib Dem.