UK Government to implement 'porn pass' age verification from April 2019

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:20 am

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<]:^D wrote:age of consent will always be a fudge - if 2 16 year olds have some sex then i wouldnt want to prosecute them.
if on the other hand some dirty old man makes a porno with a 16 year old, i wouldnt feel comfortable with it.


I think “Romeo and Juliet” laws work well for age of consent, with a sliding scale depending on the age of both parties. So you wouldn’t procedure a 16 year old for having sex with 15 year old but you would prosecute a 40 year old for example.


Does that mean that their would be a special genre of porn that only young people could make and buy?


People still buy porn?

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by Squinty » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:41 am

UK is fast becoming a complete gooseberry fool hole.

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by Errkal » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:42 am

Squinty wrote:UK is fast becoming a complete gooseberry fool hole.


Yeah but you will to provide credit card details to see it.

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by Squinty » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:44 am

Errkal wrote:
Squinty wrote:UK is fast becoming a complete gooseberry fool hole.


Yeah but you will to provide credit card details to see it.


What, the gooseberry fool hole?

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by KK » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:08 am

VPN usage in the UK is going to jump exponentially. I mean seriously, if you sign up for this scheme you're an imbecile. Not because I particularly distrust the UK government in some sort of sinister way, but because it's going to get hacked, it's going to end up in the public domain. And it'll be schadenfreude when it's a politician.

Saying that, I don't think the UK is going to be the only country to sign up to it (or something similar) either.

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by Lagamorph » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:15 am

I can see at least some states in the US (like Utah) watching this closely as a model to copy.

It's no surprise I've even seen TV ads for VPN services lately.

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by Preezy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:28 am

So how would this work if I wanted to look at grot on reddit through their app? Asking for a friend...

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by KK » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:48 am

I've even noticed VPN companies running adverts on football hoardings recently as well.

Preezy wrote:So how would this work if I wanted to look at grot on reddit through their app? Asking for a friend...

Nobody knows. At the moment normal websites (that also happen to have porn on them) are exempt. But they're more likely to now start regulating themselves (like Tumblr). The porn industry is quite deceptive in that it looks big but is actually quite small (write your own jokes, Jim...) - the vast majority of streaming sites are owned by the same people. I'm guessing the small independent sites will just be blocked, like a number of foreign sites currently are due to GDPR (though they've done that themselves) and torrents.

Everything can be circumvented very easily with a VPN. Tor for example is fine if you just want to read articles (it's too slow for anything else).

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by lex-man » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:13 pm

Preezy wrote:So how would this work if I wanted to look at grot on reddit through their app? Asking for a friend...


I think stuff you'll be fine for the time being but they're going to make further changes in the future to address it.

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by Hexx » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:56 pm

I blame the parents. All of them.
Just control your god damn children so hysterical puritans can't scream and force this sort of nonsense through

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by lex-man » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:04 pm

KK wrote:VPN usage in the UK is going to jump exponentially. I mean seriously, if you sign up for this scheme you're an imbecile. Not because I particularly distrust the UK government in some sort of sinister way, but because it's going to get hacked, it's going to end up in the public domain. And it'll be schadenfreude when it's a politician.

Saying that, I don't think the UK is going to be the only country to sign up to it (or something similar) either.


With that won't you still be able to use those free web VPN's like 'hide my ass' to access porn. My brother was using it to access bit torrent stuff not sure if he's still doing it but this really seems like a totally ineffectual step.

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by Lagamorph » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:47 pm

Trying to ban VPN will be massively anti-business as well since many companies use VPN solutions to allow employees to securely work from remote locations.

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by Errkal » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:50 pm

Lagamorph wrote:Trying to ban VPN will be massively anti-business as well since many companies use VPN solutions to allow employees to securely work from remote locations.


They can bring in a business VPN License that allows the use for corporate reasons.

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by Sandy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:55 pm

Errkal wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Trying to ban VPN will be massively anti-business as well since many companies use VPN solutions to allow employees to securely work from remote locations.


They can bring in a business VPN License that allows the use for corporate reasons.


Then people will just pay £100 to make a company and that company will need a VPN for corporate reasons.

There are so many workarounds that they'll never keep up, this is just a waste of effort, like most of their ideas to do with the internet.

I'm surprised any political party would go through with this, it's the best way to lose 50% of the vote.

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by lex-man » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:59 pm

I don't necessarily mean banning paid for VPNs but you can literally go to the link below and use a free proxy without installing any software or configuring anything in your browser's options menu. Surely those pages will have to be blocked.

https://www.hidemyass.com/en-gb/proxy

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by Errkal » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:00 pm

Sandy wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Trying to ban VPN will be massively anti-business as well since many companies use VPN solutions to allow employees to securely work from remote locations.


They can bring in a business VPN License that allows the use for corporate reasons.


Then people will just pay £100 to make a company and that company will need a VPN for corporate reasons.

There are so many workarounds that they'll never keep up, this is just a waste of effort, like most of their ideas to do with the internet.

I'm surprised any political party would go through with this, it's the best way to lose 50% of the vote.


They wont loose much vote for it, most people wont give a gooseberry fool about it as doesn't impact them, a chunk will be glad of because "think of the children" and the other lot probably didn't vote tory anyway,

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by KK » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:00 pm

Give it time, to use a VPN you'll have to register with the government as a business.

I would imagine whereas before if you were using a VPN or TOR you probably went on some sort of security agency watchlist, or at least peaked their interest. Now millions are going to end up using it, making that a win for the terrorists and others up to nefarious means.

Now in 2019 you've got to use Tor to read the news, have a wank, and watch the football at 3pm (probably).

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by lex-man » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:09 pm

Sandy wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Trying to ban VPN will be massively anti-business as well since many companies use VPN solutions to allow employees to securely work from remote locations.


They can bring in a business VPN License that allows the use for corporate reasons.


Then people will just pay £100 to make a company and that company will need a VPN for corporate reasons.

There are so many workarounds that they'll never keep up, this is just a waste of effort, like most of their ideas to do with the internet.

I'm surprised any political party would go through with this, it's the best way to lose 50% of the vote.


I think there will always be work arounds but the governments aim will be to reduce access rather than totally stop it. If you're some 15 year old kid you're not going to have £100 a year to pay for a VPN. That said at worse you're going to have to copy a load of stuff from you're dodgy mate whose parents don't give a gooseberry fool and lets him do whatever he wants on his computer.

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PostRe: UK Government delays age verification for porn
by Sandy » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:43 pm

Errkal wrote:They wont loose much vote for it, most people wont give a gooseberry fool about it as doesn't impact them, a chunk will be glad of because "think of the children" and the other lot probably didn't vote tory anyway,


We've definitely got different perceptions of the male swing vote that allows the tories to win general elections. From the ones I know and work with this would stop them voting tory.


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