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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump Impeachment Inquiry Launched
by Peter Crisp » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:26 pm

I'm currently seeing the doctor who's trying to find out why my short term memory has completely gone (I literally can't remember anything said to me after a few seconds and names of people I just met are pointless now as I'm not remembering it whoever you are) so does that mean I can now commit any crime and just use the "I honestly don't remember doing that" defence?

I just need to stop being a lazy strawberry floater and become a master criminal now :shifty: .

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump Impeachment Inquiry Launched
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:07 pm

TV Dinner wrote:Saying you don't recall something or "to the best of my recollection" is the perjury get out of jail free card.


In fairness, even memories a few hours old can be warped and distorted. Memory in and of itself is highly malleable.

That said, the "no recollection" defense is very old. It would be silly to expect it not to be deployed. But that isn't a perfect defense.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Garth » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:38 am

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Monkey Man » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:02 am

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Prosecutor: he was communicating with the Trump campaign about WikiLeaks' plans every chance he got. Roger Stone knew that if this information came out, it would look really bad for his longtime associate Donald Trump, so he lied to the committee.
Roger Stone told five categories of lies before the committee. He lied about the identity of his intermediary or go-between with WikiLeaks that he was publicly bragging about in August of 2016. He lied about asking his intermediary to get WikiLeaks to do things for him in 2016.
He lied about telling the Trump campaign about his conversations with the intermediary. He lied about his written communications with the intermediary, and he lied about his other written communications about Assange.
Roger Stone's longtime associate Donald Trump is running for president of the United States. Back in 2015, Mr. Stone was employed with the Trump campaign. By this time, July 2016, he is no longer employed with the Trump campaign, but he is talking regularly with the highest
levels of the campaign: Deputy Chairman Rick Gates; CEO Steve Bannon; Campaign Manager Paul Manafort; and even the candidate himself. So when this Twitter message comes out, Roger Stone sees a chance help the Trump campaign and he jumps at it.
June 14, 2016, on the day that the DNC announces that they have been hacked and they think it was the Russians. On the day that announcement comes out, Roger Stone has a phone conversation with the candidate, Donald Trump.
Again on June 30th, on the day that Guccifer 2.0, the entity that claimed credit for the hack, comes out and praises Donald Trump in a WordPress post, Stone has another phone conversation with Donald Trump.
One hour before Roger Stone sends this email to Jerome Corsi, "Malloch should see Assange," Roger Stone has a phone conversation first with Rick Gates, and then with the candidate, Donald Trump.
Remember, Gates testified, he said: Mr. Trump and I are in a car. It's a Suburban. We're going from Trump Tower to LaGuardia Airport. He said: I'm sitting diagonally. This is really like two and a half rows not three rows. I'm sitting diagonal from him.
He says: Candidate Trump has a phone call. Gates says: I can hear it's Roger Stone's voice on the other end of the phone. Trump hangs up the phone, and within 30 seconds, Trump says to Gates: More information is coming.
So when WikiLeaks finally does release more emails on October 7, who asks for credit? Roger Stone. And who gets the credit? Roger Stone. All of this evidence shows that Stone was discussing his conversations with the intermediary, with people involved in the Trump campaign.
Is that what Stone tells the committee? No. He lies again. Why is Stone lying about this? Ladies and gentlemen, Roger Stone is a political strategist. He knows how this is going to look.
A committee of the United States House of Representatives is examining whether the Russians were involved in the WikiLeaks releases, and here is Stone giving the campaign inside information on those releases over and over again. This is going to look terrible for Trump.
And Stone is worried that what he says and does in the hearing is going to reflect back on the president.

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Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, is being investigated by federal prosecutors for possible campaign finance violations and a failure to register as a foreign agent as part of an active investigation into his financial dealings, according to three U.S. officials.

The probe of Giuliani, which one official said could also include possible charges on violating laws against bribing foreign officials or conspiracy, presents a serious threat to Trump’s presidency from a man that former national security adviser John Bolton has called a “hand grenade.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... t=business

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:24 am

It's amazing seeing Trump refuse to show his tax returns and his supporters seeing nothing at all dodgy about that.
I have a feeling that if anyone on here refused to show tax information when asked by authorities they'd be a tiny little bit more forceful than simply saying "Well we asked but you obviously have better things to do so never mind.".

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Harry Ola » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:52 pm

Just now …

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Harry Ola » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:55 pm

Even by Donny's standards this is quite a day. Starts by live tweeting witness intimidation during the Impeachment hearings, then Roger Stone goes to jail for lying about what they all got up to with Wikileaks.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Harry Ola » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:02 pm

Just a little context …

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by KK » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:24 pm

It would be funny if virtually everyone ends up in jail, including members of his own family, but Trump himself.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Monkey Man » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:52 pm

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Garth » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:00 pm

Totally clears Roger Stone. Thank you!

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Dual » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:06 pm

Shifty Schiff :lol:

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Saint of Killers » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:08 pm

Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon testified against Stone during the trial.

Wow.

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Monkey Man » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:47 pm

President Donald Trump underwent a "quick exam and labs" as part of his annual physical exam on Saturday, out of anticipation of a "very busy 2020," the White House said.

Trump, 73, made an unannounced visit Saturday afternoon to the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland. A source with knowledge of the matter told CNN that Trump's trip to Walter Reed was not on his schedule as of Friday. On Saturday evening, Grisham told Fox News's Jeanine Pirro that the President decided to go on Saturday since it was a down day.

Grisham also denied the President had any health issue.

"He's healthy as can be," she told Pirro. "He has more energy than anybody in the White House. That man works from 6 a.m. until very, very late at night."
"Anticipating a very busy 2020, the President is taking advantage of a free weekend here in Washington, D.C., to begin portions of his routine annual physical exam at Walter Reed," White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in a statement earlier Saturday.

Trump's trip to Walter Reed took place under unusual circumstances.

His two previous physical exams in office were announced ahead of time by the White House and noted on his daily public schedule. This time, however, the President's motorcade drove to the medical center unannounced, with reporters under direction not to report his movement until they arrived at Walter Reed. Trump typically takes the Marine One helicopter to Walter Reed, but on Saturday's clear-skied day, the President opted for the motorcade.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/16/politics ... index.html

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Hexx » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:00 pm

Hope he’s dying painfully

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Peter Crisp » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:05 am

He does strawberry float all exercise and eats gooseberry fool like McDonald's all the time so yeah I doubt he's in fantastic shape.

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Victor Mildew » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:10 am

Totally clears the president, thank you.

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Preezy » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:54 am

The Dear Leader is the healthiest person in the history of humanity! Rejoice at his perfect DNA and stable genius, laud his completely clear arteries and extremely superior stamina!

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Dual » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:09 am

Everyone is saying he's the healthiest president in history. A president has never been healthier.

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PostRe: US Politics 2 - Trump adviser Roger Stone found guilty on all 7 counts of lying, obstruction + witness tampering
by Garth » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:02 pm

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