US Politics 2

Victor Mildew wrote:Yeah but for whom

Hillary

I am just hoping the margin is big enough that Trump can't stir any gooseberry fool and there's no far right terrorism on the street.


Oh, who am I kidding, they're going to do that anyway.

Based on the level of voter suppression going on with the Trump campaign last time, I'm a little hopeful of those numbers.

And I know I probably shouldn't be based on what else we've seen over recent years.

Victor Mildew wrote:Yeah but for whom

Brave Donald Trump, covid survivor and locker-up of Crooked Hillary and Horrible Hunter, that's who! So important, people are telling me it's going to be a massive landslide unless it isn't in which case its a total fix, so unfair and mean.

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Moggy wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:Yeah but for whom

Hillary

That would be amazing .

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Staggering that its come to this for America.

A straight vote between Democracy and Fascism and it’s unclear which way it will go.

The fact that the Republican Party has allowed this to happen confirms their status as pure evil but if they enable him to steal the election...well I don't know what to stay.

Fully prepared for some truly shameful remarks from Boris this week too.

Just like every other week then?

Tuesday night into Wednesday morning could be amazing tv. Trump surely can’t win, can he?

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Tuesday night into Wednesday morning could be amazing tv. Trump surely can’t win, can he?

Trump isn't going to win a fair election.

Staggering America is at a point where that might not be enough.

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Tuesday night into Wednesday morning could be amazing tv. Trump surely can’t win, can he?

Probably not but Dems made a choice in Biden over Bernie before Super Tuesday - safety of the understood over the enthusiasm for the unknown. That enthusiasm gap is the possibility of the polls being wrong and where there might be a surprise. That being said, I think Covid has lost it for Trump and working-class in swing states.

Tomous wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Tuesday night into Wednesday morning could be amazing tv. Trump surely can’t win, can he?

Trump isn't going to win a fair election.

Staggering America is at a point where that might not be enough.

speedboatchase wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Tuesday night into Wednesday morning could be amazing tv. Trump surely can’t win, can he?

Probably not but Dems made a choice in Biden over Bernie before Super Tuesday - safety of the understood over the enthusiasm for the unknown. That enthusiasm gap is the possibility of the polls being wrong and where there might be a surprise. That being said, I think Covid has lost it for Trump and working-class in swing states.

What were the polls like at this point with Hillary and trump? My only concern is how Trump lost the popular vote by such a large number yet scraped enough of the electoral colleges to win.

My gut feeling though is he’s going to lose well enough that there’s no argument other than ‘fraud, they cheated, blah blah’ etc

The difference in popular vote was only 2.1% in 2016, even worst case scenarios of similar polling errors would see Biden winning by a larger margin than that.

Cuttooth wrote:The difference in popular vote was only 2.1% in 2016, even worst case scenarios of similar polling errors would see Biden winning by a larger margin than that.

Is that all it was? I thought it was ten million votes or something

Captain Kinopio wrote:A straight vote between Democracy and Fascism and it’s unclear which way it will go.

I'm opening myself up for mockery next week, but it's really not unclear.

Everything says Trump is going to lose. And lose badly.

Moggy wrote:

Captain Kinopio wrote:A straight vote between Democracy and Fascism and it’s unclear which way it will go.

I'm opening myself up for mockery next week, but it's really not unclear.

Everything says Trump is going to lose. And lose badly.

The only question is, will he be able to litigate his way to a "win"?

Alvin Flummux wrote:The only question is, will he be able to litigate his way to a "win"?

If he loses both houses but does somehow find a way to get the Supreme Court to declare him the winner surely it'll just be a stalemate for the next 4 years?
Not great but he won't be able to do anything.

There's really no uncertainty at all. I actually predicted there was strong possibility he would win last time but this time I cannot see any possible way.

The main decided factor here is educated white people, who might have voted Trump before just because they were nominally Republican but now just want their ordinary lives back.