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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Garth » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:17 am

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Rocsteady » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:40 am

I hadn't realised TLP is a PAC made of former Republicans. They must have spent a gooseberry fool ton for the traction they're getting.

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by Photek » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:24 am

Rocsteady wrote:I hadn't realised TLP is a PAC made of former Republicans. They must have spent a gooseberry fool ton for the traction they're getting.

They doing a better job than the Democrats.

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by Corazon de Leon » Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:49 am

Photek wrote:I find Kayleigh McEnany annoyingly attractive.


Really? She looks about ten years older than she actually is.

I found out she released a populist book in 2018, I have to own it. Building quite a library of contemporary Trump literature, I’m really looking forward to his presidential library opening in a few years’ time...

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:06 pm

Photek wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:I hadn't realised TLP is a PAC made of former Republicans. They must have spent a gooseberry fool ton for the traction they're getting.

They doing a better job than the Democrats.


The Democrats are going to need to build a group of equal or greater ability and effectiveness, because while TLP is presently an ally, it is an alliance of convenience. The moment Biden wins, if he wins, that alliance is as good as dead.

The Democrats need to develop in just a few months a strong propaganda machine.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Fade » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 pm

Photek wrote:I find Kayleigh McEnany annoyingly attractive.

Is that the blonde in the tweet who's trying to make her hair and skin the same colour?

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:06 pm

Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.

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by Corazon de Leon » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:24 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.


I think that historically speaking the US police today most resembles the US police of the last however many years it's been in existence, if I'm totally honest.

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by Lex-Man » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:29 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.


I think that historically speaking the US police today most resembles the US police of the last however many years it's been in existence, if I'm totally honest.


I don't know the militarisation of the US police is fairly new.

Edit: Well they started in the 70's.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by KK » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:18 pm

Rather amusing Instagram account of various ‘Karen’s’ going wild in America:

https://instagram.com/karensgoingwilds? ... 57knycpu19

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by Moggy » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:26 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.


I think that historically speaking the US police today most resembles the US police of the last however many years it's been in existence, if I'm totally honest.


I don't know the militarisation of the US police is fairly new.


Not really. They look more like the military now and have more army like weapons, but the US police have a very very long history of violence, abuse and murder.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:46 pm

The fact that you have so many people who seem fine with police being able to beat the gooseberry fool out of anyone giving even the mildest of resistance to the police is worrying. They have this attitude that only 100% complete obedience to the police is allowed even if what they're doing is unjustified.
Shooting people in the back while they're running away is somehow justified as well which is just crazy.

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by Lex-Man » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:51 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:The fact that you have so many people who seem fine with police being able to beat the gooseberry fool out of anyone giving even the mildest of resistance to the police is worrying. They have this attitude that only 100% complete obedience to the police is allowed even if what they're doing is unjustified.
Shooting people in the back while they're running away is somehow justified as well which is just crazy.


I remember watching some guy was told the number of people killed in his area, he cheered and said they should kill more people.

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by Corazon de Leon » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:25 pm

Moggy wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.


I think that historically speaking the US police today most resembles the US police of the last however many years it's been in existence, if I'm totally honest.


I don't know the militarisation of the US police is fairly new.


Not really. They look more like the military now and have more army like weapons, but the US police have a very very long history of violence, abuse and murder.


I think the fact that Trump's "When the looting starts, the shooting starts" quote was lifted word-for-word from a police chief in the 1960s tells you everything you need to know about law and order in the United States.

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:03 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.


I think that historically speaking the US police today most resembles the US police of the last however many years it's been in existence, if I'm totally honest.


I don't know the militarisation of the US police is fairly new.

Edit: Well they started in the 70's.


Funnily enough, it only started because Black Panthers and other black people began legally arming themselves. So of course white cops decided that they needed overwhelming force to handle people who were no better or worse armed than white people, who were threatened with violence by racists on a daily basis (this at a time of lynchings IIRC).

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by Lex-Man » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:08 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.


I think that historically speaking the US police today most resembles the US police of the last however many years it's been in existence, if I'm totally honest.


I don't know the militarisation of the US police is fairly new.

Edit: Well they started in the 70's.


Funnily enough, it only started because Black Panthers and other black people began legally arming themselves. So of course white cops decided that they needed overwhelming force to handle people who were no better or worse armed than white people, who were threatened with violence by racists on a daily basis (this at a time of lynchings IIRC).


I thought it was because they were offered a load of army surplus for next to nothing.

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:10 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.


I think that historically speaking the US police today most resembles the US police of the last however many years it's been in existence, if I'm totally honest.


I don't know the militarisation of the US police is fairly new.

Edit: Well they started in the 70's.


Funnily enough, it only started because Black Panthers and other black people began legally arming themselves. So of course white cops decided that they needed overwhelming force to handle people who were no better or worse armed than white people, who were threatened with violence by racists on a daily basis (this at a time of lynchings IIRC).


I thought it was because they were offered a load of army surplus for next to nothing.


The recent militarization, yes.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Moggy » Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:18 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:Dave Anthony, in the latest Dollop podcast episode (on the actor Sessue Hayakawa), said that, historically speaking, the US police today most closely resembles the police of Apartheid South Africa.

I know nothing about South African history, and can't find a podcast covering it, so I can't speak to the truth of that statement. I suppose I should start looking for some kind of YouTube coverage or a book.


I think that historically speaking the US police today most resembles the US police of the last however many years it's been in existence, if I'm totally honest.


I don't know the militarisation of the US police is fairly new.

Edit: Well they started in the 70's.


Funnily enough, it only started because Black Panthers and other black people began legally arming themselves. So of course white cops decided that they needed overwhelming force to handle people who were no better or worse armed than white people, who were threatened with violence by racists on a daily basis (this at a time of lynchings IIRC).


They were pricks long before that.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:07 am

I'm aware; the Dollop series on the history of the LAPD and the history of Ferguson (where the rioting took place a few years back) was quite eye opening for me. I was just speaking to the militarization of the police that lead to SWAT teams and, more recently, military surplus flooding the police world.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Moggy » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:44 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:I'm aware; the Dollop series on the history of the LAPD and the history of Ferguson (where the rioting took place a few years back) was quite eye opening for me. I was just speaking to the militarization of the police that lead to SWAT teams and, more recently, military surplus flooding the police world.


If you like The Dollop then you should check out "Behind the Bastards". They've just finished a 6 part look at the history of the US police, from slavery to today.

It's not as funny as The Dollop but it's a great podcast to learn more about evil bastards.


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