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by Lex-Man » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:20 pm

BID0 wrote:The Dems putting Ocasio-Cortez in that position is odd, they were trying to get her to fall in line a don't rock the boat only a week or two ago


Anyone can run. We'll probably see a huge number of candidates in the primaries.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:37 pm

So 800k people are still going unpaid and still loads of Republicans don't give a single gooseberry fool.
We're fast getting to a point where a large portion of those people are going to be forced to find a new job and the government is going to be strawberry floating screwed and we'll see just how much those republican supporters like living in the country without government they seem so distrustful of.
Let's see how they enjoy living in a country with almost no food health inspectors (because the food industry would never sell tainted food and Mr Ramsey has never shown a bad restaurant) or the health and safety people for mines as they never have problems ever.

Let's see what happens as government just get's out of their way as they so desperately urge.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by BID0 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:40 pm

lex-man wrote:
BID0 wrote:The Dems putting Ocasio-Cortez in that position is odd, they were trying to get her to fall in line a don't rock the boat only a week or two ago


Anyone can run. We'll probably see a huge number of candidates in the primaries.

Oh right! I thought to get on the oversight committee you had to be nominated by your peers

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:47 pm

BID0 wrote:
lex-man wrote:
BID0 wrote:The Dems putting Ocasio-Cortez in that position is odd, they were trying to get her to fall in line a don't rock the boat only a week or two ago


Anyone can run. We'll probably see a huge number of candidates in the primaries.

Oh right! I thought to get on the oversight committee you had to be nominated by your peers


I may be wrong but I think the only things you need are lots of money and be US born.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Lex-Man » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:27 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:
BID0 wrote:
lex-man wrote:
BID0 wrote:The Dems putting Ocasio-Cortez in that position is odd, they were trying to get her to fall in line a don't rock the boat only a week or two ago


Anyone can run. We'll probably see a huge number of candidates in the primaries.

Oh right! I thought to get on the oversight committee you had to be nominated by your peers


I may be wrong but I think the only things you need are lots of money and be US born.


I think the born in the US is a bit fuzzy. One of the republicans running against Trump was born in Canadian.

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by Alvin Flummux » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:10 pm

BID0 wrote:The Dems putting Ocasio-Cortez in that position is odd, they were trying to get her to fall in line a don't rock the boat only a week or two ago


Could be throwing her in the deep end on purpose, to humble her, put her in her place.

Or they could have realized that her fire and fury will be needed in future oversight hearings.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Monkey Man » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:08 pm

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Irene Demova » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:16 pm

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lol the Dems are cheering on a literal fascist coup

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by Alvin Flummux » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:54 pm

Irene Demova wrote:lol the Dems are cheering on a literal fascist coup


Wait, are they? :o

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Photek » Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:43 pm

Trump there, literally threatening a witness so he doesn't give evidence.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:37 pm

It's amazing how far we've come that he can do something like that, get away with it and even have people back him.
If Obama had done the same Fox News would have gone into instant meltdown and not stopped mentioning it for the next decade at least.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:47 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Irene Demova wrote:lol the Dems are cheering on a literal fascist coup


Wait, are they? :o


I thought Maduro was the one in the wrong - almost the entirety of South America recognise someone else as the Venezuelan leader, as does the United States now. I don't know enough about the situation to pass comment though.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Lex-Man » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:12 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Irene Demova wrote:lol the Dems are cheering on a literal fascist coup


Wait, are they? :o


I thought Maduro was the one in the wrong - almost the entirety of South America recognise someone else as the Venezuelan leader, as does the United States now. I don't know enough about the situation to pass comment though.


I met a guy who worked on oil rigs out there and he was saying that really hot women were offering them sex for bread and milk. It sounds pretty strawberry floated up. Also working on oil rigs seems like an awful job.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by KK » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:56 pm

One paycheck from peril, Sigrid Layne, a furloughed federal worker, now faces a more urgent reality.

"As of today, I have a dollar and six cents in my bank account," Layne said. "It's very terrifying when you look at your bank account, you have no money coming in, you don't know when you're going to get your next paycheck, and you're like, 'What do I do?'"

So far, her answer? Get groceries at food banks and sell things off her own shelves.

"Anything that I can sell that anybody would want to buy because, as I said, I have not been able to get another job," Layne said. "If someone wants to buy it, they can buy it. That's just how desperate I am."

So desperate, Layne now fears losing her home. She said she just bought a new house and can't make her first mortgage payment.

According to a career survey, almost 80 percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck and most government employees don't go into their line of work to get wealthy; they do it to serve the public. As CBS News' Ed O'Keefe reports, an increasing number of them say they don't think they can afford to keep their government jobs.

Sigrid Layne isn't alone. After a 16-day government shutdown in 2013, 64 percent of federal workers said they had less than two weeks' worth of savings set aside. On the day before payday, about 20 percent of them had less than a day's worth of spending money in the bank.

"In the last 40 years, we've had growing inequality in this country, and many families, many workers have barely seen their wages and incomes rise. So it's become increasingly difficult for them to pay for their basic expenses, like housing and food and childcare," said Elisa Gould, senior economist of the Economic Policy Institute.

It's a challenge facing furloughed workers like Jessica Appel, an executive assistant at the Department of Transportation.

"Making sure now that we have enough groceries in the house, that paycheck-to-paycheck is everything for a small family like ours," Appel said.

Because she's a contractor, Appel won't receive any back pay when the government reopens. Already facing a stack of unpaid bills, Appel found out when she went to the doctor that she and her 2-year old son, Chase, lost their health care.

"When I arrived, I was informed that my health insurance wasn't eligible, so I had to make the decision of paying out-of-pocket," Appel said.

So Jessica's boyfriend took a second job at night and she started a GoFundMe campaign – one of about 3,000 for federal workers – that have raised more than $1.3 million. Meanwhile, Sigrid Layne is still stuck.

"I went outside to start up my car, and my battery was dead … and the money that I had to pay for groceries, I had to pay for a car battery yesterday," Layne said. "What am I going to do? … It took everything I had."

At one food distribution center in Washington D.C., foot traffic is up about 20 percent this month at the area food banks they serve. They're on track to serve more than a half a million more meals this month than a typical January, all because of the shutdown.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/government ... d-choices/

Doesn’t appear to be any end in sight either.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Lex-Man » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:13 pm

As somebody who works for the government if we had a shut down I'd be screwed, I can only give my deepest sympathies to these people.

It does make me wonder how many people will actually come back when the government reopens. Surely a lot of people will find other jobs and quit working for the government. This shut down is going to cause real long term problems for the US government even after the government reopens.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Alvin Flummux » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:35 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Irene Demova wrote:lol the Dems are cheering on a literal fascist coup


Wait, are they? :o


I thought Maduro was the one in the wrong - almost the entirety of South America recognise someone else as the Venezuelan leader, as does the United States now. I don't know enough about the situation to pass comment though.


I don't know much about the situation either, but I will say that if the Democrats are against Trump's move, it's probably because they're against most of what he's for.

I haven't seen any sign of a pro-Maduro outcry from them though.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:56 am

lex-man wrote:As somebody who works for the government if we had a shut down I'd be screwed, I can only give my deepest sympathies to these people.

It does make me wonder how many people will actually come back when the government reopens. Surely a lot of people will find other jobs and quit working for the government. This shut down is going to cause real long term problems for the US government even after the government reopens.


I think it may shock you just how much some people in the US despise the government and anyone that works for them (except the military and some police) and will openly call them parasites. They honestly think government workers do nothing and add nothing to society and as such don't give a gooseberry fool about them being made unemployed.
I get the feeling from them that they see dystopian futures where corporations run the world and think "Yeah, that seems really fabulous!" because for them business can be trusted and will never harm consumers. It's an odd mix of blind faith and total lack of any knowledge of history where companies have routinely strawberry floated people (both customers and employees) over for profit and killed people without seemingly any regret.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Harry Ola » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:33 am

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Hexx » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:08 am

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Kudlow praised federal employees for showing up for work in spite of shutdowns, saying they are “volunteering” to do it in honor of the country and “presumably their allegiance to President Trump.”


“That’s not volunteering if you’re being forced to work without pay. If you don’t show up you lose your job. That’s not volunteering…”

Larry Kudlow: “I’m not even going to go there. You know what I’m saying. It’s very clear…

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Preezy » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:10 am

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