US Politics 2

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Moggy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:09 pm

Many people are saying that Christianity has had its day, many many people would like to see Trumpianity replace it

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Alvin Flummux » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:13 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:Many people are saying that Christianity has had its day, many many people would like to see Trumpianity replace it


I know you're half joking, but when you combine Prosperity Theology with Trumpism, that's exactly what you get.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Moggy » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:27 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:Many people are saying that Christianity has had its day, many many people would like to see Trumpianity replace it


I know you're half joking, but when you combine Prosperity Theology with Trumpism, that's exactly what you get.


Who’s joking? Trump floats amongst the clouds like the one true god that he is. He’s taken the apple away from the evil ones. Praise him Alvin, praise him.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Moggy » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:03 am

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Tomous » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:41 am

Doesn't understand wind but knows windmills better than anyone :lol:

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Lex-Man » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:55 am

What is he actually trying to say? Is he saying that wind power is environmentally unfriendly.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Xeno » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:53 pm

He is saying the production and instillation of windmills is harmful to the environment.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Dual » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:08 pm

If my grandad talked like that I'd put him in a home.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:40 pm

Dual wrote:If my grandad talked like that I'd put him in a home.


It is amazing watching Trump talk absolute gooseberry fool and people defending him. It'll be interesting to see how bonkers he can get and still have that backing.

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:42 pm

Lex-Man wrote:What is he actually trying to say?


"Help! I'm being used by authoritarian forces to advance their fascist agenda, and my mental faculties have declined beyond the point where I can articulate any coherent objection. This is abuse. Please help me."

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Moggy » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:36 pm

twitter.com/Dutchwouter777/status/1210171609929138176



You can hear the fear in the cops voice. Stupid racist banana split. :lol:

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:41 pm

It does seem like the US is becoming more and more of a police state and any interaction with them can become violent at a moments notice and some people will defend them even though it's obvious they're in the wrong.
For a nation that says it values freedom it's a rather odd paradox.

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by KK » Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:03 am

Interesting article on California in the NYTimes:

NYTimes wrote:California Is Booming. Why Are So Many Californians Unhappy?

Fire, garbage and homelessness increasingly plague the Golden State.

Christine Johnson, a public-finance consultant with an engineering degree, was running for a seat on the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.

She crisscrossed her downtown district talking about her plans to stimulate housing construction, improve public transit and deal with the litter of “needles and poop” that have become a common sight on the city’s sidewalks.

Today, a year after losing the race, Ms. Johnson, who had been in the Bay Area since 2004, lives in Denver with her husband and 4-year-old son. In a recent interview, she spoke for millions of Californians past and present when she described the cloud that high rent and child-care costs had cast over her family’s savings and future.

“I fully intended San Francisco to be my home and wanted to make the neighborhoods better,” she said. “But after the election we started tallying up what life could look like elsewhere, and we didn’t see friends in other parts of the country experiencing challenges the same way.”

California is at a crossroads. The state has a thriving $3 trillion economy with record low unemployment, a surplus of well-paying jobs, and several of the world’s most valuable corporations, including Apple, Google and Facebook. Its median household income has grown about 17 percent since 2011, compared with about 10 percent nationally, adjusted for inflation.

But California also has a pernicious housing and homeless problem and an increasingly destructive fire season that is merely a preview of climate change’s potential effects. Corporations like Charles Schwab are moving their headquarters elsewhere, while Oracle announced that it would no longer stage its annual software conference in San Francisco, in part because of the city’s dirty streets. “Shining example or third-world state?” a recent headline on a local news website asked.

“You get depressed if you listen to everything going on, but you can’t find a contractor and the state continues to create jobs,” said Ed Del Beccaro, an executive vice president with TRI Commercial Real Estate Services, a brokerage and property management company in the Bay Area.

Whether it’s by taming bays and mountains with roads, bridges and power lines or grappling with a lack of water and crippling earthquakes, California is perennially testing the limits of growth. Its population has swelled to 40 million and the state’s economy has grown more than previous generations had thought possible, cramming more cars and more people into cities that were supposed to be tapped out, while seeding new companies and new industries as old ones died or moved elsewhere.

But today it has a new problem. For all its forward-thinking companies and liberal social and environmental policies, the state has mostly put higher-value jobs and industries in expensive coastal enclaves, while pushing lower-paid workers and lower-cost housing to inland areas like the Central Valley.

This has made California the most expensive state — with a median home value of $550,000, about double that of the nation — and created a growing supply of three-hour “super commuters.” And while it has some of the highest wages in the country, it also has the highest poverty rate based on its cost of living, an average of 18.1 percent from 2016 to 2018.

That helps explain why the state has lost more than a million residents to other states since 2006, and why the population growth rate for the year that ended July 1 was the lowest since 1900.

“What’s happening in California right now is a warning shot to the rest of the country,” said Jim Newton, a journalist, historian and lecturer on public policy at the University of California, Los Angeles. “It’s a warning about income inequality and suburban sprawl, and how those intersect with quality of life and climate change.”

Rest: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/29/busi ... eless.html

Imagine spending that long travelling to work most or every day. Would send you loopy.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Peter Crisp » Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:18 pm

That's what happens when people are completely against the government helping to fund public transport or infrastructure.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Meep » Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:22 pm

It is the modern way, promote private wealth while destroying public well-being. One would have to imagine there comes a point when a few percent on your tax does not seem to bad when the alternative is spending your life struggling to travel anywhere, using run down services and constantly stepping over homeless people. Sadly, most voters don't seem able to make the connection.

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by Peter Crisp » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:13 pm

Meep in Heavenly Peace wrote:It is the modern way, promote private wealth while destroying public well-being. One would have to imagine there comes a point when a few percent on your tax does not seem to bad when the alternative is spending your life struggling to travel anywhere, using run down services and constantly stepping over homeless people. Sadly, most voters don't seem able to make the connection.


What makes the situation in the US so odd is that they have had some of the most dramatic public supported schemes in history and have all benefited from them but now a large chunk of the population actually have this idea that public workers are parasites and actively dislike them.

They seem to find the idea that helping people get to work by funding busses or trains is somehow socialism rather than just good old fashioned self interest in that the more people who can get to work the better.
These people would be horrified living in a place like London where taxes are used to help fund public transport so that millions of people can travel in from outside but its made London way more money than it costs and deciding that it'd be better to just give the rich a tax cut and pull funding would be utter madness.

It's completely short sighted and the fact that China has built a metric fuckton of high speed trains in the last decade that will benefit them massively should show them why it's so short sighted but I'm sure Tucker Carlson on Fox News will just laugh it off and proclaim that helping people get to work is somehow evil and wrong.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by captain red dog » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:23 am

I'll shed no tears for Soleimani, but the US attack on him seems utterly reckless and I have no idea how that can be considered legal in international law.

Its either going to lead to war, or further action from Iran that will lead to more loss of life and more disruption to the region (disruption sounds like a crass understatement). Iran aren't going to back down from this, it would have been like them assassinating Mike Pence or something (as much as many people would rejoice that too, it also wouldn't be allowed to just slide by from the US point of view).

Fraught times ahead. :(

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by Moggy » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:37 am

captain red dog wrote:I'll shed no tears for Soleimani, but the US attack on him seems utterly reckless and I have no idea how that can be considered legal in international law.

Its either going to lead to war, or further action from Iran that will lead to more loss of life and more disruption to the region (disruption sounds like a crass understatement). Iran aren't going to back down from this, it would have been like them assassinating Mike Pence or something (as much as many people would rejoice that too, it also wouldn't be allowed to just slide by from the US point of view).

Fraught times ahead. :(


It's almost like there is an election this year.....

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Squinty » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:52 am

Trump strawberry floated up. This could be really bad.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Memento Mori » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:05 am

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
captain red dog wrote:I'll shed no tears for Soleimani, but the US attack on him seems utterly reckless and I have no idea how that can be considered legal in international law.

Its either going to lead to war, or further action from Iran that will lead to more loss of life and more disruption to the region (disruption sounds like a crass understatement). Iran aren't going to back down from this, it would have been like them assassinating Mike Pence or something (as much as many people would rejoice that too, it also wouldn't be allowed to just slide by from the US point of view).

Fraught times ahead. :(


It's almost like there is an election this year.....

twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/141604554855825408



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