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Alvin Flummux wrote:If he isn't retiring, it's a cynical stunt to aid in reelection.

The new poll finds 50% of Americans disapproving of Trump, leaving just 1% expressing no opinion. The average percentage not having an opinion on Trump has been 5% throughout his presidency.

Trump's approval rating has risen because of higher ratings among both Republicans and independents. His 94% approval rating among Republicans is up six percentage points from early January and is three points higher than his previous best among his fellow partisans. The 42% approval rating among independents is up five points, and ties three other polls as his best among that group. Democratic approval is 7%, down slightly from 10%.

The 87-point gap between Republican and Democratic approval in the current poll is the largest Gallup has measured in any Gallup poll to date, surpassing the prior record, held by Trump and Barack Obama, by one point.

The Jan. 16-29 poll was conducted in the midst of the Senate impeachment trial that will likely result in the president's acquittal. The poll finds 52% of Americans in favor of acquitting Trump and 46% in favor of convicting and removing him from office.

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Lex-Man wrote:So this whole thing seems to have blown up in the democrats face. There is now less chance of finding out what Donnie is up to and his approval rating has jumped 9%.

Moggy wrote:

Lex-Man wrote:So this whole thing seems to have blown up in the democrats face. There is now less chance of finding out what Donnie is up to and his approval rating has jumped 9%.

It’s jumped but it went from a rating of “gooseberry fool” to a rating of “slightly less gooseberry fool”.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/tr ... l-ratings/

He’s comfortably below all other recent Presidents.

And what’s the alternative? Ignore his wrongdoing because you’re scared his approval rating might go up slightly?

<]:^D wrote:didnt think id see consequentialism v deontology in the us politics thread

Lex-Man wrote:

<]:^D wrote:didnt think id see consequentialism v deontology in the us politics thread

Well that's basically the argument that is being made. Although I'm guessing Moggy will be back to tell me this case won't effect anything.

Moggy wrote:

Lex-Man wrote:

<]:^D wrote:didnt think id see consequentialism v deontology in the us politics thread

Well that's basically the argument that is being made. Although I'm guessing Moggy will be back to tell me this case won't effect anything.

You really think that anybody has permanently changed their allegiance to Trump because of the impeachment trial?

Trump has so many scandals that this’ll seem like a distant memory by the time November gets here.

And I don’t think it’s a good long term plan to ignore corruption and law breaking by the president.

Meep wrote:The worst thing they could do is select a liberal and then try to appease the chuds who support Trump, which is a waste of time. Those people aren't going to change their minds. For one thing, Trump has not made their lives measurably worse than they were under Obama so they have zero reason to hand power back to another establishment candidate of the DNC while Trump continues to stoke reactionary feelings in the culture war. At the same time they would be alienating the left of the party who, while they might grudgingly turn up and vote for another liberal candidate, certainly won't be dedicating a lot of free time to fight for them or give any passionate support.

Unfortunately I think this is exactly what most of the Democrat establishment is dead set on doing.