US Politics 2

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by Victor Mildew » Wed May 01, 2019 3:54 pm

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Apart from the avatar, trump is retweeting an account called strawberry float Donald trump

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by Hexx » Wed May 01, 2019 4:11 pm

"For me, it is over "says Lindsey Graham, referring to a report he just said he hasn't read.


Yet further evidence Republicans are scum

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by Peter Crisp » Wed May 01, 2019 5:00 pm

Hexx wrote:
"For me, it is over "says Lindsey Graham, referring to a report he just said he hasn't read.


Yet further evidence Republicans are scum


It's pretty obvious they have no interest in any sort of compromise or want oversight over anything.
It would be funny watching them cry about how long the investigation is taking given the time they wasted on dozens of investigations of Hillary if this wasn't so serious.

The main problem though is the Republican supporters have been completely hoodwinked into believing anything the leadership say even if it's obvious it's complete bollocks.
The republicans recently blocked a law that tried to stop employers stealing from staff.



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by Corazon de Leon » Wed May 01, 2019 7:48 pm

Hexx wrote:
"For me, it is over "says Lindsey Graham, referring to a report he just said he hasn't read.


Yet further evidence Republicans are scum


Lindsey Graham is a disgrace.

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu May 02, 2019 2:33 am

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by KK » Sun May 05, 2019 8:10 pm

A hugely unpopular measure to allow Florida teachers to carry guns in their classrooms was approved by state legislators late on Wednesday May 1st 2019 after a lengthy and contentious debate that left some lawmakers in tears.

Two days of high emotion in state capital, Tallahassee, ended with the Republican-controlled Florida house voting 65-47 to approve a wide-ranging school safety bill that expands the “armed guardian” programme, set up after the 2018 Marjory Stoneman Douglas high school massacre, to include trained educators.

The controversial bill, earlier approved along party lines in the Florida senate, now heads to the desk of Governor Ron DeSantis, who is expected to sign it into law.

“Imagine a student with an emotional behavioral disability with a gun, or a teacher that maybe has become afraid of a student – who says the student won’t be able to disarm them?” said Joy Jackson, 65, a teacher with more than four decades’ experience working with special needs students.

“The first thing you do is pull out [a weapon]. Who’s going to protect that educator if that gun goes off by mistake? As far as arming teachers is concerned, I am so 100% against it until I can’t see straight. It’s the most dangerous decision I have ever heard.”

Jackson, who works at the Robert Renick educational center in Miami Gardens, a school for pre-kindergarten to 12th grade students with emotional and behavioral difficulties, sees the controversial bill as the work of powerful National Rifle Association (NRA) lobbyists in Tallahassee working with the state’s Republican lawmakers.

“I know the NRA gives humungous money to lobbyists, I get it,” she said. “But this is more than money. You can’t pay for a life. If the NRA wants to do something, pay for more officers to be in these buildings, not someone who’s not received the proper training.”

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Moggy » Mon May 06, 2019 8:42 am

I give it 5 minutes until the first teacher shoots all of the annoying little gooseberry fools in their classroom.

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PostRe: US Politics 2
by Preezy » Mon May 06, 2019 11:17 am

America is crazy.

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon May 06, 2019 1:02 pm

Just when you think it can’t get worse, Florida steps up to the plate.

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon May 06, 2019 2:02 pm

Moggy wrote:I give it 5 minutes until the first teacher shoots all of the annoying little gooseberry fools in their classroom.


Underpaid, overworked, racist teacher + firearm + stand your ground law + Florida... It's going to lead to fatalities. It's inevitable.

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by Peter Crisp » Mon May 06, 2019 3:17 pm

Alvin Flummux wrote:
Moggy wrote:I give it 5 minutes until the first teacher shoots all of the annoying little gooseberry fools in their classroom.


Underpaid, overworked, racist teacher + firearm + stand your ground law + Florida... It's going to lead to fatalities. It's inevitable.


Then the police will storm in and see all these armed teachers and obviously everything is going to go just fine :fp: .

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by Monkey Man » Mon May 06, 2019 10:16 pm

375 former prosecutors sign statement that Trump would be indicted for obstruction were he not president -

twitter.com/neal_katyal/status/1125456556617883651



We are former federal prosecutors. We served under both Republican and Democratic administrations at different levels of the federal system: as line attorneys, supervisors, special prosecutors, United States Attorneys, and senior officials at the Department of Justice. The offices in which we served were small, medium, and large; urban, suburban, and rural; and located in all parts of our country.

Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice.

The Mueller report describes several acts that satisfy all of the elements for an obstruction charge: conduct that obstructed or attempted to obstruct the truth-finding process, as to which the evidence of corrupt intent and connection to pending proceedings is overwhelming. These include:

· The President’s efforts to fire Mueller and to falsify evidence about that effort;

· The President’s efforts to limit the scope of Mueller’s investigation to exclude his conduct; and

· The President’s efforts to prevent witnesses from cooperating with investigators probing him and his campaign.

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by Alvin Flummux » Tue May 07, 2019 3:09 am

Couldn't they just arrest him after he leaves office, considering the statute of limitations is frozen until then?

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by Harry Ola » Tue May 07, 2019 8:46 am

He almost certainly will be charged with campaign finance violations on the day he is no longer President. Michael Cohen is going to prison for doing his dirty work, so it's difficult to see how there is not a case against him.

The debate in America is whether to impeach, to get him out of office before the next election. That's the only mechanism that congress has to deal with a corrupt President. but it remains unpopular with the public and so the Dems are reluctant to start.

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by Hexx » Wed May 08, 2019 9:15 am

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/06/politics ... index.html

Utterly despicable. Somehow a new low.

strawberry float anyone who even vaguely supports this evil regime.

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by OrangeRKN » Wed May 08, 2019 9:41 am

I really don't understand the reasoning behind presidential pardons

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by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 9:46 am

So the guy went and shot a prisoner who they were supposed to be releasing because they didn't have the evidence to hold him and they are pardoning him because of what exactly?

FFS America, sort it out. :fp:

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by Moggy » Wed May 08, 2019 9:47 am

This is where the bullshit “support the troops!” rhetoric ends up, in so many eyes soldiers can do no wrong and there will be plenty of people that support freeing a cold blooded murderer just because he had a uniform.

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by Monkey Man » Wed May 08, 2019 9:54 am

twitter.com/nytimes/status/1125898277793206278



By the time his master-of-the-universe memoir “Trump: The Art of the Deal” hit bookstores in 1987, Donald J. Trump was already in deep financial distress, losing tens of millions of dollars on troubled business deals, according to previously unrevealed figures from his federal income tax returns.

Mr. Trump was propelled to the presidency, in part, by a self-spun narrative of business success and of setbacks triumphantly overcome. He has attributed his first run of reversals and bankruptcies to the recession that took hold in 1990. But 10 years of tax information obtained by The New York Times paints a different, and far bleaker, picture of his deal-making abilities and financial condition.

The data — printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service tax transcripts, with the figures from his federal tax form, the 1040, for the years 1985 to 1994 — represents the fullest and most detailed look to date at the president’s taxes, information he has kept from public view. Though the information does not cover the tax years at the center of an escalating battle between the Trump administration and Congress, it traces the most tumultuous chapter in a long business career — an era of fevered acquisition and spectacular collapse.

The numbers show that in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses — largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings. They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.

In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, The Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners. His core business losses in 1990 and 1991 — more than $250 million each year — were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.

“The real estate business — we’re in an absolute depression,” Mr. Trump told the lawmakers, adding: “I see no sign of any kind of upturn at all. There is no incentive to invest. Everyone is doing badly, everyone.”
Everyone, perhaps, except his father, Fred Trump.
While Donald Trump reported hundreds of millions of dollars in losses for 1990 and 1991, Fred Trump’s returns showed a positive income of $53.9 million, with only one major loss: $15 million invested in his son’s latest apartment project.


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by Tomous » Wed May 08, 2019 10:08 am

Jenuall wrote:So the guy went and shot a prisoner who they were supposed to be releasing because they didn't have the evidence to hold him and they are pardoning him because of what exactly?

FFS America, sort it out. :fp:


But it was self defence apparently...

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