US Politics 2

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Hexx** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:11 pm

Trump says Suleimani strike was 'retaliation'

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office alongside the Greek prime minister, Trump claimed the US strike that killed Iranian general Qassem Suleimani was “retaliation.”

“He was a monster. And he’s no longer a monster. He’s dead,” Trump said, according to the White House pool report.

But senior US officials have previously said the strike was meant to prevent an “imminent” attack on Americans, although they have refused to provide further details on the threat.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Lex-Man** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:21 pm

Meep in Heavenly Peace wrote:Not buying the 'oops, our president is a moron' play by the war hawks for one second. They knew Trump is an idiot and they put the option in front of him, so the US military command bares responsibility for this IMO.

Dems are being pathetic again and refusing to condemn the current course of events. Honestly, if you sampled the mealy platitudes coming out of their mouths and mixed with those vomited out in the lead up to Iraq you would be hard pressed to tell which is which. As usual, Sanders proves himself to be the only Democratic candidate with an actual working spine by opposing military escalation.

The Dems know that if this escalates to full war they're going to look bad in a lot of Americans eyes if they're seen to be against the war.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Alvin Flummux** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:11 pm

The Rally Round The Flag Effect is a very powerful one - it's what got Dubya re-elected.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Garth** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:48 pm

twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/status/1214691368787988482

twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1214691102185443335

twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1214693141716127745

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Peter Crisp** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:12 am

Well this is going to end badly.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Alvin Flummux** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:26 am

There's Trump's justification for a military hissy fit.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Lex-Man** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:30 am

This is not going to end well. Hopefully nobody else gets involved although I'm sure Boris will throw his full weight behind Trump.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Alvin Flummux** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:46 am

Is Tehran still there? What's going on? I'm assuming Trump's nuking everyone.

A Ukrainian plane has crashed in Iran, with 180 people on board, according to local media.

Source.

Related?

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Squinty** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:52 am

Iranian state media are saying it was a technical fault. We should probably wait for more confirmation.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Return_of_the_STAR** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:04 am

Being selfish here but if this strawberry floats up my holiday to Disney world in two weeks Trump's rage will be nothing.

The Ukrainian plane crash has to be some weird coincidence surely. Can't see much logical sense in anyone targeting it other than russian backed Ukrainian rebels.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Lex-Man** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:07 am

Apparently no one died from the missile strikes last night. Was that the plan or is America that good at defence / Iran just suck at missiles?

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Zilnad** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:13 am

Could Iran be goading America into being the side who declares war? Or are they just testing to see how far they can push Trump? The BBC noted that the time of the attacks would have ensured minimal casualties so it must have been a conscious decision on their part?

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **OrangeRKN** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:20 am

Iran don't want open war with the US (as literally no country wants), but they are both pressured into response by their posturing and will use US aggression to their advantage (in reducing US influence and involvement in the region) if they can

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Moggy** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:20 am

America hasn’t declared war since WW2, so they have little hope of that happening.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Qikz** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:23 am

I think this plane crash is tragic and I really hope it's nothing to do with tensions, it was mostly Iranians who died on the flight as well (Iranians and Iranian Canadians).

Iran responded in the safest way possible and aimed to not even kill anyone, where as America deliberately targeted a general for no reason. America are strawberry floating gooseberry fool.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Qikz** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:23 am

I think this plane crash is tragic and I really hope it's nothing to do with tensions, it was mostly Iranians who died on the flight as well (Iranians and Iranian Canadians).

Iran responded in the safest way possible and aimed to not even kill anyone, where as America deliberately targeted a general for no reason. America are strawberry floating gooseberry fool.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Moggy** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:25 am

I am not sure firing missiles is the safest possible way of retaliation.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Qikz** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:27 am

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:I am not sure firing missiles is the safest possible way of retaliation.

I mean, they missiled at a time they knew the base would be practically empty. America has done this before with Iranian airfields.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Jenuall** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:09 pm

A "proportional response", something Trump has no strawberry floating clue how to say let alone comprehend!

Oh well, when this all kicks off at least we might be able to get a new Desert Strike out of it.

PostRe: US Politics 2 by **Preezy** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:11 pm

Qikzmas wrote:where as America deliberately targeted a general for no reason.

Well, not exactly. They had (correct) intelligence of the location of a wanted target that was behind multiple attacks on coalition forces, and they went for it.

It's not like they just looked him up on Wikipedia and sent a drone to his house.

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