US Politics 3

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Tomous** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:52 pm

Squinty wrote:
speedboatchase wrote:I'm confused by the Hutchinson testimony. She wasn't in the car when this happened. Can they get the driver or someone else from Secret Service to corroborate? It certainly sounds like something Trump would say, but isn't it hearsay? I suppose the onus is now on those who were in the car to refute her testimony under oath, but it's not a slam dunk until that smoke clears imo.

Unless they have testimony from the people who were there, this wheel thing is just pointless.

It's worth pointing out that a source close to the secret service said this isn't true and the guys in the car will testify to that effect. That's just a source, the secret service haven't said this.

They also think the Republicans are witness tampering, something else to consider....

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Hexx** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 5:12 pm

twitter.com/MaggieBlackhawk/status/1542147095750213633

Effectively no longer judiciary but an unchallengeable legislator…

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Peter Crisp** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:06 pm

Memento Mori wrote:If they don't speak under oath, it's meaningless hearsay. Hutchinson was under oath.

She doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would enjoy prison food so I rather doubt she would intentionally purger herself in such a high profile case as I have a feeling anyone being caught in obvious purjury is going to have the book thrown at them particularly hard.
I hear the wine selection in US prison is really bad.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Tomous** » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:34 pm

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/MaggieBlackhawk/status/1542147095750213633

Effectively no longer judiciary but an unchallengeable legislator…

This is absurd. Completely unelected and doing whatever the strawberry float they want.

States should just ignore them. What they gonna do? (Semi serious question.....)

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Lex-Man** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:33 am

twitter.com/Popehat/status/1541909079509020672

Apparently it's not hearsay.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Tomous** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:55 pm

The Republicans have strawberry floated this. They're basically banking on this running out of steam by November mid-terms but they're seriously underestimating. Sadly, we're going to start hearing about women dying because of this law soon.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **speedboatchase** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:17 pm

It depends on the measures they run on and the vociferousness of tone from the Democrats. A problem that Dem strategists will have to square is that a lot of the anger is towards the structures of US politics and the Supreme Court in particular. The sexy solution is to burn it all down. Harder to convince people that voting will make a difference this time, particularly since voting for Biden has led to a situation where his entire ability to govern is limited by two purple state senators and a Republican majority SCOTUS. Republicans will get the House either way imo because US will likely be in a recession soon and that's the main issue.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Drumstick** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:50 pm

I disagree.

1) The oncoming recession is a global issue, not one limited to America.

2) If you don't have any human rights, which is the direction the Rs are heading, what does money matter?

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **speedboatchase** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:12 pm

Drumstick wrote:I disagree.

1) The oncoming recession is a global issue, not one limited to America.

2) If you don't have any human rights, which is the direction the Rs are heading, what does money matter?

I think the next Biden opinion polls will be a decent bellwether. Very difficult for any president to do well in their first midterms and Biden's approval rating keeps dropping. That's where I see the certainty of a Republican victory in November. If Biden was able to see the SCOTUS has handed him a huge opportunity I'd be a bit more hopeful, but he remains useless:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-unlikely-meet-bold-democrat-demands-after-abortion-ruling-sources-2022-06-29/

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Tomous** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:18 pm

Biden just feels useless but surely you take useless over erosion of human rights

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Drumstick** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:26 pm

Sleepy Joe needs to wake up.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Cuttooth** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:47 pm

twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1542520127681286144

The Democrats really urgently need a strategy that isn't just calling for votes as it will soon prove impossible for them to win entirely rigged races.

Biden has suggested they need to get rid of the filibuster for abortion bills, which is true. The reality though is that they need to get rid of everything that continues to disenfranchise their own supporters.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Knoyleo** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 4:51 pm

Tomous wrote:Biden just feels useless but surely you take useless over erosion of human rights

Will you vote for the party that wants to erode your human rights, or the party that will do nothing to stop the erosion of your human rights?

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Balladeer** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:08 pm

At least the party freeing the leopards and putting Bisto on my face is doing something!

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Grumpy David** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:33 pm

twitter.com/dsamuelsohn/status/1542272059937546243

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Tomous** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:39 pm

He's going to hate that headline :slol:

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **<]:^D** » Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:09 pm

captain red dog wrote:The US right wing is up in arms as apparently the Biden administration is considering setting up abortion clinics in hostile states on federal land.

I'm not sure how or if that would work, but if he can do that then it would be one of the greatest achievements of his presidency and one of the greatest achievements in upholding human rights.

this is brilliant but also id be concerned for the safety of any of those working in them... :dread:

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Tomous** » Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:47 pm

School's out forever: Arizona moves "to kill public education" with new universal voucher law

Actively trying to make their base stupider :fp:

More intelligent people are the less likely they are to vote for them I guess.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Alvin Flummux** » Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:13 pm

<]:^D wrote:
captain red dog wrote:The US right wing is up in arms as apparently the Biden administration is considering setting up abortion clinics in hostile states on federal land.

I'm not sure how or if that would work, but if he can do that then it would be one of the greatest achievements of his presidency and one of the greatest achievements in upholding human rights.

this is brilliant but also id be concerned for the safety of any of those working in them...

It's not going to happen. Biden is not going to stand in defense of the rights of the American people - he just made a deal with Mitch "Bad Faith" McConnell to seat an anti-abortion judge in a lifetime position in a Kentucky circuit court, in exchange for a promise to not stand in the way of upcoming US attorney nominations, or something. :fp:

He's also not going to expand the Supreme Court, because he's afraid to anger the Nazis.

At this rate, we're probably headed toward a bloody civil war that will more closely resemble the Troubles than the set piece battles of the 19th century.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Lagamorph** » Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:07 am

New York not strawberry floating around

twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1543032520853307396

twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1543027695671558151

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