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PostRe: USTV Chat - Alex Rider debuts. Killing Eve & Legends Of Tomorrow finale.
by Grumpy David » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:22 pm

I don't watch Batwoman but why would it be a new character playing her and not just pretend nothing happened like Spartacus main actor or Will's Aunt in Fresh Prince of Bel Air?

(Been years since I saw either show but can't remember if they broke the 4th wall to address Fresh Prince change. I think Spartacus did a tribute at the end credits though since the actor died as opposed to quit or got the sack.)

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Alex Rider debuts. Killing Eve & Legends Of Tomorrow finale.
by Memento Mori » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:26 pm

Grumpy David wrote:I don't watch Batwoman but why would it be a new character playing her and not just pretend nothing happened like Spartacus main actor or Will's Aunt in Fresh Prince of Bel Air?

(Been years since I saw either show but can't remember if they broke the 4th wall to address Fresh Prince change. I think Spartacus did a tribute at the end credits though since the actor died as opposed to quit or got the sack.)



“To be honest with you, I did consider the ‘soap opera version’ [of recasting] for a hot minute, because selfishly we already had a couple episodes written, and transition-wise it would be seamless,” she told Plec. “But upon further reflection — and I think [Arrowverse EP] Greg [Berlanti] helped me make this call — he’s like, ‘I think we should just reboot Batwoman as a different character.'”

In addition to paying “respect to everything that Ruby [Rose] put into the Kate Kane character” during Season 1, Dries said, “it also helps the audience, because we’re not asking them to address ‘the elephant in the room'” by accepting a new face as the same person.

Dries went on to affirm that “Ryan Wilder” is “a whole new character who in her past was inspired by Batwoman, so she is going to take on the mantle,” adding that the scrappy twentysomething who lives in a van, with her plant, “is maybe not the right person at the time to be doing it, so that’s what makes it fun.”


I still don't understand.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Alex Rider debuts. Killing Eve & Legends Of Tomorrow finale.
by Cuttooth » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:31 pm

I don't get what's wrong this seems entirely in keeping with how comic books are written?

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Alex Rider debuts. Killing Eve & Legends Of Tomorrow finale.
by Hexx » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:23 pm

Batwoman S1 (and left over due to lockdown) threads are all about Kate Kane and her family though.

Go the easy root and have the Alice Actor play all the parts (she's best in show)

The Kate Kane/Batwoman in the show is already very different from the comics - and now it's not going to even be that

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Alex Rider debuts. Killing Eve & Legends Of Tomorrow finale.
by Memento Mori » Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:56 am

Yeah all the supporting characters are Kate's family, ex-girlfriend etc who will presumably have no connection to the new Batwoman. They've just spent a whole series about Kate learning to be Batwoman and now it's going to be repeated with someone new. In the comics when a legacy character replaces an existing super-hero (Dick Grayson becoming Batman for example), it's planned well in advance not done ad-hoc.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Alex Rider debuts. Killing Eve & Legends Of Tomorrow finale.
by Ironhide » Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:40 pm

There'll be some lazy explanation for the reboot, probably involving the multiverse still changing after the events of Crisis. Or have Barry travel through time (again) and change reality (again).

All the supporting characters won't have any memory of Kate's existence.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Alex Rider debuts. Killing Eve & Legends Of Tomorrow finale.
by Edd » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:42 pm

Obviously wasn't going to happen because they're still successful (and would be mental for CW to drop half their shows at once), but the Arrowverse should have ended with Arrow/Crisis like the MCU should have ended with Endgame.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Alex Rider debuts. Killing Eve & Legends Of Tomorrow finale.
by Captain Kinopio » Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:25 pm

Just finished S4 of The Wire. Definitely the best.

That last episode though is strawberry floating brutal. Bodie on the bench with McNulty, knowing what’s coming, makes me cry. Bubs, Randy, Carver and Duqwan as well. Such a crushing episode.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Cuttooth » Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:50 pm

Against my better judgement I am rewatching Lost as my partner thinks she only got part way through the second season and is curious how the story progressed.

It's so weird watching a show that basically has the production qualities of any other big series since 2010 but with the standard number of episodes (to be precise: too many) for the time. You can date prestige television from the 90s to the early 00s much more than something like Lost as well, which gives it this oddly unique feel to it.

The first season held up much better than I thought it would as well as it seems like it was only from the second season onward that it got so obsessed with both adding more and more new, more obtuse mysteries and trying to explain the minutiae around existing ones with greater and greater outlandishness; which ultimately made for a worse show in retrospect.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Memento Mori » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:17 pm

I should rewatch Lost. It's on Amazon Prime right?

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Cuttooth » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:23 pm

That's how we're watching it, yeah.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by That's not a growth » Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:49 pm

I had a rewatch of Lost about 5 years ago and I found it pretty watchable until about half way through the second to last season. Ended up not finishing it.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Cuttooth » Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:13 pm

Getting towards the end of season two, the main annoying thing I forgot is just how little information the survivors give each other. :lol: :x

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Memento Mori » Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:14 am

The Lethal Weapon 5 episode of Sunny has been removed from Netflix because of the blackface scenes.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Grumpy David » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:34 am

Memento Mori wrote:The Lethal Weapon 5 episode of Sunny has been removed from Netflix because of the blackface scenes.


Isn't that episode making fun of people who do blackface rather than mocking black people? I think they even discuss in that episode when is blackface acceptable? The humour is from the characters lack of understanding of why it's so offensive.

And isn't there a Lethal Weapon 6 episode too? Did they just forget that exists? :slol: Plus other episodes have Martina Martinez and Taiwan Tammy.

Not all of South Park is on Netflix but the episode where:

    Mr Garrison gets a sex change to a woman
    Resulting in Kyle's Dad getting a half Dolphin half human species change "Dolphinplasty"
    And then Kyle getting a "Negroplasty"
    Mr Slave breaks up with Mrs Garrison because he's disgusted by Vaginas
    Whilst the surgeon explains that whilst your appearance might have changed, you aren't truly changed (just as Kyle tries to play basketball and his kneecaps explode).

Seems like something Comedy Central might stop airing. :slol:

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Corazon de Leon » Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:42 pm

We were talking about this in our group chat last night. I think South Park almost gets away with a lot of the over-the-line stuff they do because it seems to be less about nastiness for nastiness' sake and more about calling out the insane levels of hypocrisy that exist in American society. But I don't know how long that can last.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Ironhide » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:20 pm

Memento Mori wrote:The Lethal Weapon 5 episode of Sunny has been removed from Netflix because of the blackface scenes.


That's the episode of Peep Show where Jeremy blacks up for his girlfriend during 'taboo breaking sex' getting removed then

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Reality Z & finale of What We Do in the Shadows out now.
by Captain Kinopio » Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:17 pm

strawberry float me the last episode of The Wire is so good. I’ve no idea why people look down their nose on S5 it’s absolutely brilliant.

Still the best show ever made by a huge strawberry floating distance.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Series finale of I Know This Much Is True & Season finale of Insecure.
by Monkey Man » Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:01 pm

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No new shows this week. Next new show is Perry Mason remake on 21st June (22nd June on Sky Atlantic).

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Returning Shows this week

The Order 18th June (New) - all episodes that day on Netflix UK
The Politician 19th June (New) - all episodes that day on Netflix UK

Finales this week (UK Days)

Monday - Series finale of I Know This Much Is True. Season finale of Insecure.
Tuesday - Season finale of Roswell: New Mexico.

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PostRe: USTV Chat - Series finale of I Know This Much Is True & Season finale of Insecure.
by Monkey Man » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:27 pm



Coming up as part of their Upfront event where they show off their new shows.

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