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by Victor Mildew » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:25 pm

Jenuall wrote:Building up a Steam library is pretty cheap compared to console gaming to be fair. The average price of my games on steam is probably about £20 compared to consoles where everything is extortionate, even in the sales!

Checked out the PlayStation Summer Sale this morning - all the PS5 games which are discounted are still over £50! :lol:


I saw that this morning too, £55 For a digital game "on sale" :dread:

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Dual » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:37 pm

Can you stream games on Steam? Just wondering if that's an option if someone wanted the cheaper model with small hard drive.

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by Xeno » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:41 pm

Yes, you can game stream using steam link app

https://store.steampowered.com/remoteplay_hub

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by Dowbocop » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:44 pm

KingK wrote:I like new tech so intrigued by this despite not being a pc gamer. Having recently bought a Win10 laptop I have tried a small number of Game Pass games on there although apart from FM21, not really liked the keyboard and trackpad use.

I thought I’d check my Steam account anyways......I own just 2 games! Company of Heroes 2 and FM2016! :lol:

Don’t think it’s worth me ordering one of these really!

If you've got an Xbox controller can't you just use that for any PC/Gamepass games that need them? I thought the Xbox drivers were baked into W10 now.

WRT mouse and keyboard controls, don't write them off if you've only used a trackpad and built-in keyboard. Even a relatively cheap mouse and external keyboard will be better than laptop inputs. Some games are better with a pad obviously, but for others there is no substitute for WSAD and a mouse.

Also download Epic and get the free games every week - your collection will swell very quickly!

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Bertie » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:51 pm

This epic games store thing. Valve said it would be supported. It’s massive if it’s supported without windows. If you need to install windows for GPU, epic etc, it’s going to be a pain.

How much of a hog is windows, and will it run ok on the hardware?

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Orbital » Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:19 pm

Bertie wrote:This epic games store thing. Valve said it would be supported. It’s massive if it’s supported without windows. If you need to install windows for GPU, epic etc, it’s going to be a pain.

How much of a hog is windows, and will it run ok on the hardware?

Agreed with this, to answer - no one will know for now. Personally, i will love to play Diablo 2 resurrected on this - so i'm in the same boat.

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Bertie » Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:48 pm

Orbital wrote:
Bertie wrote:This epic games store thing. Valve said it would be supported. It’s massive if it’s supported without windows. If you need to install windows for GPU, epic etc, it’s going to be a pain.

How much of a hog is windows, and will it run ok on the hardware?

Agreed with this, to answer - no one will know for now. Personally, i will love to play Diablo 2 resurrected on this - so i'm in the same boat.


I’ve got loads of games on Epic, including control and borderlands. I doubt those games will run well. But, I have loads of smaller games/older games I’d play. Defence grid, rollercoaster tycoon, civilisation 6, football manager and many more.

Ive been looking at ‘deaths door’, and reckon that would be a great game for the steam deck. We just have to look out and see what comes.

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Peter Crisp » Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:55 pm

I hadn't thought about it but Diablo 2 would be perfect on this :wub: .

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Meep » Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:25 pm

I don't really see the point of mobile gaming these days. Any time I am out of the house I usually have something better to do with my time. Push comes to shove I just read my latest ebook off an app on my phone. Must be getting old.

On a purely technical level the pricing of the deck is pretty impressive though.

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by kuliand » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:22 pm

is there any chance the SteamDeck could run Half-Life Alyx (with one of the no VR mods)? I don't really have the interest in getting a new desktop pc and I use MacBook so I don't have any computing device to play it on so being to play the Half-Life Alyx would add some further interest in me buying a SteamDeck.

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by Cheeky Devlin » Sat Jul 31, 2021 10:59 pm

kuliand wrote:is there any chance the SteamDeck could run Half-Life Alyx (with one of the no VR mods)? I don't really have the interest in getting a new desktop pc and I use MacBook so I don't have any computing device to play it on so being to play the Half-Life Alyx would add some further interest in me buying a SteamDeck.


I think they've said that while technically it could be used to run VR (It's just a PC after all), you're not going to have a good time with it.

It just doesn't have the firepower to competently handle it.

So I wouldn't buy it with VR in mind.

EDIT: Just noticed you would be doing it with the no VR mods.

I can't see why you couldn't technically (I'm not sure how demanding it is without the VR), but I can't say I would recommend flat-screen Alyx. This game is made for VR and is built around it.
If you only want the story, you'd genuinely be better served just watching a Youtube playthrough.

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Victor Mildew » Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:55 pm

Don't play that game without VR ffs, it's completely pointless.

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by site23 » Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:13 pm

I don't know anything about it - does it not just play like a normal Half-Life game if you don't play in VR?

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by Lagamorph » Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:59 pm

site23 wrote:I don't know anything about it - does it not just play like a normal Half-Life game if you don't play in VR?

No, it was built entirely around VR from the ground up. So you've got things like manually manipulating objects in the world and the gunplay not being a typical "Firing down the reticule in the middle of the screen", there is no reticule, the weapons fire wherever you happen to be pointing them which could be in literally any direction depending on your hand orientation (So you could fire blindly over the top of cover or from leaning around a corner).

I can understand the point of the mods to make it non-VR, but I suspect that playing the game that way would be a big let down to what some people might be expecting after listening to the hype of people who've played it in VR.

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by kuliand » Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:58 pm

Thanks for the tips. I had thought of just watching a YouTube play through but then with some of non-vr mods looking fairly promising in at least making it playable I had been holding of so I could at least enjoy the story in an interactive way.

I might watch the progress of the non-vr mods over the rest of this year and then see about pre-ordering a Steam Deck in the new year.

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Xeno » Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:19 pm







I am definitely not regretting my preorder.

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Victor Mildew » Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:53 pm

YOUTUBE FACE

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Peter Crisp » Fri Aug 06, 2021 10:59 pm

I placed my order on day one so hopefully, I should get my 512gb at the beginning of the Q2 2022 estimated time it says on the order page.

This will be my way back into PC gaming after over 10 years of being console only :D .

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Cheeky Devlin » Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:00 am

That first video (The Linus Tech Tips one) has confirmed what I suspected. You can extend the desktop to have 2-screens.

Mostly this interests me because Cemu (The Wii U emulator) allows you to have two windows open, one for the TV screen and the other for the Wii U controller screen. So assuming it has the grunt to run Cemu well (And from what I've been reading, emulator devs are confident it will) this could be the perfect Wii U emulation device.

Peter Crisp wrote:I placed my order on day one so hopefully, I should get my 512gb at the beginning of the Q2 2022 estimated time it says on the order page.


I got the same estimated date and I ordered on the same day. I'm ridiculously excited for this. Gonna be so cool to see what can be done with it.

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PostRe: Valve Steam Deck - the real Switch Pro?…
by Peter Crisp » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:42 pm

This is a totally stupid and impractical idea but as this is pretty much just a pc could you plug in one of those external graphics things that you can get for laptops and stuff if you felt like giving it a boost in a few years?
Again this isn't a sensible option I'm just wondering if it could be done.

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