Video Game Eliminator! *FINAL ROUND: RINKYDINK WINS!*

Jenuall wrote:...Can someone summarise to my why they think Paper Mario is so good? I'm just not getting the love myself!

Endlessly charming, outrageously funny and surprising in so many unexpected ways, as well as fun and involving, with a turn based battle system that also requires timing and strategy.

Snowcannon wrote:It's on my near-term list, but haven't had the chance to vote for it yet for defensive reasons

These are the games I'm looking to eliminate

13. Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (Mega Drive)
35. Resident Evil 4
39. Monkey Island 2
44. Skies of Arcadia
46. Resident Evil 2 (2019)
54. Metroid Fusion
55. Star Wars: Knights of The Old Republic
58. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
82. Silent Hill 2
83. Fallout: New Vegas
86. God of War (PS4)

Take God of War off of that list right now! And BOTH remaining Resident Evil games, really? Also, no Mario, or Zelda! Your top 10 is going to be diabolical!

Resi 4 should have gone strawberry floating ages ago to be fair.

But it was so influential!

Well my list did include Paper Mario, so it does have Mario!

And I plan to chop some Mario/Zelda games before the top 10

Also you are the first person to significantly object to my list

Snowcannon wrote:Well my list did include Paper Mario, so it does have Mario!

And I plan to chop some Mario/Zelda games before the top 10

Also you are the first person to significantly object to my list

My bad, I expect a couple of Mario games for the top ten, and paper should definitely be one of them. My refined objection is therefore mainly God of War and PM.

Spotted this on twitter just now - I know it's for the GC version, but may be of interest to some in this thread.

twitter.com/OoPAvgm/status/1166692755885740032

I miss NGC

People voting for Silent Hill 2 made me feel sad.

It's supposed to be one of the best, influential horror games ever.

Wedgie wrote:People voting for Silent Hill 2 made me feel sad.

It's supposed to be one of the best, influential horror games ever.

It's going to be voted just shy of the 30th best game of all time and I think that's reflective of that fact. Monkey Island 2 cannot go yet.

PuppetBoy wrote:Spotted this on twitter just now - I know it's for the GC version, but may be of interest to some in this thread.

twitter.com/OoPAvgm/status/1166692755885740032

I miss NGC

Ahh NGC, what a mag.

It wasn't their review that had interested me in Skies of Arcadia though, it was one I read years prior in Gamesmaster (I think) for original release. Having never owned a Dreamcast, it seemed so unattainably exotic.

Jenuall wrote:

Call and Answer wrote:

Jenuall wrote:Can someone summarise to my why they think Paper Mario is so good? I'm just not getting the love myself!

Lovely art style, engaging battle system, colourful and diverse adventure with a funny and lightly anarchic take on the clean (sometimes sterile) Mario universe.

Thanks for that, it does seem to have plenty of followers but I've just never had that attraction to it myself.

I really struggle to see how it can be better than some of the RPGs that have already gone out by there you go!

I think the battle mechanics alone are one reason I'd put above most typical RPG's. Yes they are turn based, but with timing for damage boost and various different inputs included in various attacks it's just more fun than just picking something from a list (you still pick things from a list, but you get to interact with the battle as well.)

Pedz wrote:

Jenuall wrote:

Call and Answer wrote:

Jenuall wrote:Can someone summarise to my why they think Paper Mario is so good? I'm just not getting the love myself!

Lovely art style, engaging battle system, colourful and diverse adventure with a funny and lightly anarchic take on the clean (sometimes sterile) Mario universe.

Thanks for that, it does seem to have plenty of followers but I've just never had that attraction to it myself.

I really struggle to see how it can be better than some of the RPGs that have already gone out by there you go!

I think the battle mechanics alone are one reason I'd put above most typical RPG's. Yes they are turn based, but with timing for damage boost and various different inputs included in various attacks it's just more fun than just picking something from a list (you still pick things from a list, but you get to interact with the battle as well.)

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 does this brilliantly (along with loads of other great things about the game) and that went ages ago so I'm still not convinced Paper Mario should stick around!

Jenuall wrote:

Pedz wrote:

Jenuall wrote:

Call and Answer wrote:

Jenuall wrote:Can someone summarise to my why they think Paper Mario is so good? I'm just not getting the love myself!

Lovely art style, engaging battle system, colourful and diverse adventure with a funny and lightly anarchic take on the clean (sometimes sterile) Mario universe.

Thanks for that, it does seem to have plenty of followers but I've just never had that attraction to it myself.

I really struggle to see how it can be better than some of the RPGs that have already gone out by there you go!

I think the battle mechanics alone are one reason I'd put above most typical RPG's. Yes they are turn based, but with timing for damage boost and various different inputs included in various attacks it's just more fun than just picking something from a list (you still pick things from a list, but you get to interact with the battle as well.)

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 does this brilliantly (along with loads of other great things about the game) and that went ages ago so I'm still not convinced Paper Mario should stick around!

Xenoblade Chronicles is more real-time fighting than Paper Mario and other traditional RPGs. I also believe few have played XBC2 and that was one reason for it go very early.

Real-time may be wrong, but I dunno, it's more like WoW or something (well, from the little I played of it, I played the first one the most and rate it as the BEST RPG.)

PuppetBoy wrote:I miss NGC

Call and Answer wrote:Ahh NGC, what a mag.

I made a game on RPG Maker back in the day (early 2006) and sent a copy to NGC, they printed it in a 'stuff readers made' section on the letters page complete with screenshots and a link to Global Nintendo (the forum where eliminator was born) where it could be then downloaded.

Spent weeks working on it at the time so to see it in that issue was quite an achievement.

Anyways...

Silent Hill 2 - 8
Monkey Island 2 - 2
KOTOR - 2
Link to the Past - 1
New Vegas - 1
Doom - 1
Skies of Arcadia - 1
Goldeneye - 1

...and so, a series i've never tried has gone (though i quite liked the movie), yes, SILENT HILL 2 HAS BEEN ELIMINATED!

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29th: Silent Hill 2
=30th: Mario Kart 8
=30th: Civilisation V
=32nd: Bioshock
=32nd: The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
34th: Final Fantasy IX
35th: Yakuza 0
36th: Perfect Dark
37th: XCOM 2
38th: Horizon: Zero Dawn
39th: Fable II
40th: Batman: Arkham City
41st: Doom II
42nd: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
43rd: Fallout 3
44th: Animal Crossing: New Leaf
45th: The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
46th: Spiderman (PS4)
47th: Left 4 Dead 2
48th: Cities Skylines
49th: Thief: The Dark Project
50th: Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
51st: Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
52nd: Outrun 2
53rd: Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations
54th: Streets of Rage 2
55th: Banjo Kazooie
56th: Xenoblade Chronicles 2
=57th: GTA: Vice City
=57th: Pokemon: Heart Gold
59th: Astro Bot (PSVR)
60th: Night in the Woods
61st: Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
=62nd: Super Mario Kart
=62nd: Timesplitters 2
64th: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
65th: Forza Horizon 4
66th: Splatoon 2
67th: Life is Strange
68th: Sonic 3 & Knuckles
69th: Halo
70th: Rollercoaster Tycoon 2
71st: Gears of War 3
=72nd: Pokemon Crystal
=72nd: Ikaruga
=74th: Halo Reach
=74th: Resident Evil 0
76th: Halo 3
=77th: Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War
=77th: Trials Evolution
79th: Street Fighter IV
80th: Theme Hospital
81st: Dark Souls
82nd: Ristar
83rd: Mad Max
84th: Future Cop LAPD
85th: Star Trek: Bridge Commander
86th: Mercenary (C64)
87th: Damnation
=88th: Eye of the Beholder 2
=88th: Trials HD
90th: ARMS
91st: Deadly Premonition
92nd: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
93rd: Shenmue
94th: Way of the Exploding Fist
95th: Championship Manager 01/02
96th: Trials Fusion
97th: Super Skidmarks
98th: Trials Rising
99th: BMX XXX
100th: Candy Crush Soda Saga

Right then, let's crack on...

Video Game Eliminator: Round 65

6. Deus Ex
7. System Shock 2
8. Witcher 3
9. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
10. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
11. Super Mario Galaxy
13. Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (Mega Drive)
16. Super Mario Odyssey
20. Half-Life 2
27. Metroid Prime
29. Doom (1993)
31. Super Mario 64
33. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
35. Resident Evil 4
38. Super Mario World
39. Monkey Island 2
44. Skies of Arcadia
46. Resident Evil 2 (2019)
50. Goldeneye
52. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild
54. Metroid Fusion
55. Star Wars: Knights of The Old Republic
58. Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
72. Super Mario Galaxy 2
79. Tetris
82. Silent Hill 2
83. Fallout: New Vegas
86. God of War (PS4)
97. Final Fantasy VI

Okay folks, as usual, the vote will conclude tomorrow evening, so happy voting, and remember...

DON'T LET YOUR FAVOURITE BE ELIMINATED!

Doom

Skies of Arcadia

Skies of Arcadia

Skies of Arcadia

Vermilion wrote:I made a game on RPG Maker back in the day (early 2006) and sent a copy to NGC, they printed it in a 'stuff readers made' section on the letters page complete with screenshots and a link to Global Nintendo (the forum where eliminator was born) where it could be then downloaded.

Spent weeks working on it at the time so to see it in that issue was quite an achievement.

Very nice! What was it about?

Also, Fallout New Vegas.

Call and Answer wrote:

Vermilion wrote:I made a game on RPG Maker back in the day (early 2006) and sent a copy to NGC, they printed it in a 'stuff readers made' section on the letters page complete with screenshots and a link to Global Nintendo (the forum where eliminator was born) where it could be then downloaded.

Spent weeks working on it at the time so to see it in that issue was quite an achievement.

Very nice! What was it about?

It was mostly standard RPG fare, but a lot of the characters were based on the people i knew on Global Nintendo and there were game character cameos by the bucketload, there were also a lot of in jokes about perverted badgers and cats with small tails (it's not the size that matters etc...). Worked pretty well actually, pretty much every in game object could be inspected as i made everything clickable. Also, as the game progressed, i was getting a lot better with the RPG Maker tools as the latter stages were much more technically accomplished and i was doing some pretty complicated things by the end (cut scenes, transparent floors, movable boulder puzzles, edited sprites, a Mario Kart race with proper overtaking which was simulated by making slight variations in the routes of the various kart sprites, hence some would appear faster than others).

The game itself is long gone now, but i do still have some old screenshots...