VPNs: Advice for a newbie

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by OrangeRKN » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:58 pm

VPNs are too business critical to ban. So yes, this goverment probably will try to ban them as they have repeatedly proven themselves technologically incompetent.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Moggy » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:14 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:VPNs are too business critical to ban. So yes, this goverment probably will try to ban them as they have repeatedly proven themselves technologically incompetent.


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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Johnny Ryall » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:23 pm

Ironhide wrote:Anyone else think the government will try banning VPN's soon after the new online age verification system comes into effect?

It'd probably be met with public support too, after all why use one if you've got nothing to hide?


For work.

It would be impossible to ban anyway, it's encrypted traffic. They could ban the companies selling them but that is MAJOR 1984 vibes. There are plenty of innocuous reasons to use a VPN.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Ironhide » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:12 pm

Fwiw, I don't actually think that about VPN's and am considering using one mainly to access US Netflix and switch to using torrents to acquire USTV shows (currently use Usenet) without worrying about being tracked.

The access to porn after April would just be a bonus.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by shadow202 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:14 pm

I use NordVPN and now everyday my phone gives me a warning that VPNs have access to my emails and phone calls but I thought the point to them was to hide you from things like that happening

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Rightey » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:15 pm

If you're goal is to get around location blocks just use this:

https://www.vpngate.net/en/howto_softether.aspx

It's free and open source, and works better than any paid for service I've used which a lot of the time get their IP's blacklisted from sites like netflix and then never reset them.

It's very straight forward to use, the only downside is sometimes you will get disconnected from a connection and might need to re-boot your pc before you can re-connect.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Sandy » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:40 pm

shadow202 wrote:I use NordVPN and now everyday my phone gives me a warning that VPNs have access to my emails and phone calls but I thought the point to them was to hide you from things like that happening


Your VPN supplier stops your internet supplier from watching whatever you're doing but that means your VPN supplier can see everything you're doing instead.

The reason for this is down to how data is handled over the internet. When you're browsing normally your ISP would be able to see websites you visit and data you send and receive in packet form. For things like What'sApp and Email these packets are encrypted and they can't see what's inside these packets. For larger downloads in normal file formats the data probably isn't encrypted and they can use package inspection tools to get an idea of what it is you're downloading and sending. Most of them don't bother too much because it's more bother than it's worth and they don't really care about the specifics of what you're downloading. Normally they already know anyway because of the website you're on when you start the download. For example: You go to the Steam page for Soul Calibur and start downloading something, they could take an educated guess that you've just downloaded the game Soul Calibur without have to actually scan what you're downloading. Due to GDPR most of them can no longer store and hold metadata about you as an individual that identifies you as said individual.

When you connect through a VPN you're effectively connecting to a different computer that then connects to the websites you want for you. All the data that now flows to and from your computer is encrypted so that now, when your ISP sees the data traveling across your network, all they see is you connecting to one specific place and they have no idea where you're being forwarded to or what you're downloading.

With this you're just transferring your privacy from your ISP to your VPN provider. One of those two is under more governmental influence than the other, so if you're worried about 1984 I'd take the VPN option over the ISP option.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Pedz » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:51 pm

Lagamorph wrote:I've used NordVPN for about 2 years now and not had any issues with it.


Does NordVPN work with Netflix, or will I need to use Getflix still?

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:33 pm

Sandy wrote:
shadow202 wrote:I use NordVPN and now everyday my phone gives me a warning that VPNs have access to my emails and phone calls but I thought the point to them was to hide you from things like that happening


Your VPN supplier stops your internet supplier from watching whatever you're doing but that means your VPN supplier can see everything you're doing instead.

The reason for this is down to how data is handled over the internet. When you're browsing normally your ISP would be able to see websites you visit and data you send and receive in packet form. For things like What'sApp and Email these packets are encrypted and they can't see what's inside these packets. For larger downloads in normal file formats the data probably isn't encrypted and they can use package inspection tools to get an idea of what it is you're downloading and send. Most of them do bother too much because it's more bother than it's worth and they don't really care about the specifics of what you're downloading. Normally they already know anyway because of the website you're on when you start the download. For example: You go to the Steam page for Soul Calibur and start downloading something, they could take an educated guess that you've just downloaded the game Soul Calibur without have to actually scan what you're downloading. Due to GDPR most of them can no longer store and hold metadata about you as an individual that identifies you as said individual.

When you connect through a VPN you're effectively connecting to a different computer that then connects to the websites you want for you. All the data that now flows to and from your computer is encrypted so that now, when your ISP sees the data traveling across your network, all they see is you connecting to one specific place and they have no idea where you're being forwarded to or what you're downloading.

With this you're just transferring your privacy from your ISP to your VPN provider. One of those two is under more governmental influence than the other, so if you're worried about 1984 I'd take the VPN option over the ISP option.


This is also why it's important to choose a VPN with a verified no logs policy. Unsurprisingly, most of the big ones have this as standard.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Lagamorph » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:41 pm

Pedz wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:I've used NordVPN for about 2 years now and not had any issues with it.


Does NordVPN work with Netflix, or will I need to use Getflix still?

I've used it successfully with Netflix in multiple regions, including the US and Canada, but obviously it will only work on your computer browser. Smart TVs will still need a DNS service let Netflix.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Green Gecko » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:11 pm

Ironhide wrote:Fwiw, I don't actually think that about VPN's and am considering using one mainly to access US Netflix and switch to using torrents to acquire USTV shows (currently use Usenet) without worrying about being tracked.

The access to porn after April would just be a bonus.

For occasional torrents I have had a good experience using windscribeVPN although bear in mind it is based in Canada which also has a surveillance program, detail here https://securitygladiators.com/windscribe-vpn-review/

It's 10Gb for free though, it's not super fast but it works fine. And it's arguable whether any US or Canadian surveillance will reach GCHQ just for downloading a torrent.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by abcd » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:12 pm

For the people out there that pay for a VPN service. Does netflix work well with them?

I just want to watch US/Canada netflix.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Rightey » Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:53 am

abcd wrote:For the people out there that pay for a VPN service. Does netflix work well with them?

I just want to watch US/Canada netflix.


I use Hotspot Shield, and no they don't at least for Japan, I havn't tried for the US one in a long time. When you contact customer support they just tell you they're aware of the problem and are working on it, but they never do anything.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Green Gecko » Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:19 pm

Netflix routinely block IPs from known VPNs so the VPN service basically needs a gooseberry fool load of rotating and constantly retiring IPs in circulation to circumvent the bans, so they sometimes work and usually don't is the only real answer. The more expensive ones will say they do.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by teflon » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:34 am

Tafdolphin wrote:Morning all.

Quick and nasty; I want a VPN. I've done some research and feel I know what I'm looking for (absolutely no logs, torrenting allowed, decent speeds) and three names keep popping up:

ExpressVPN
NordVPN
PrivateInternetAccess

Just wondering of anyone on here uses one, and if so which VPN is the best for general use?

Ta.


Lol. I would just suggest you to take a look at vpn review site like [name of site removed - no advertising] ranking table
and start from the top.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by gamerforever » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:40 am

Nord vpn is great and theres a topcashback deal where you get 55% back.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Albert » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:46 am

+1 for Nordvpn.

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PostRe: VPNs: Advice for a newbie
by Tafdolphin » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:46 pm

teflon wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:Morning all.

Quick and nasty; I want a VPN. I've done some research and feel I know what I'm looking for (absolutely no logs, torrenting allowed, decent speeds) and three names keep popping up:

ExpressVPN
NordVPN
PrivateInternetAccess

Just wondering of anyone on here uses one, and if so which VPN is the best for general use?

Ta.


Lol. I would just suggest you to take a look at vpn review site like [name of site removed - no advertising] ranking table
and start from the top.


O...k?

I mean, I chose my VPN just after this so what, 6 months ago? Went with Private Internet Access and it's done its job, far as I can see. And, you know, it's cheap.

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