Which Film/TV/Game/Book is to better abandoned early?

Moggy wrote:

Robbo-92 wrote:

Albert wrote:Game of Thrones is an obvious one. Possibly the largest drop off in quality I have ever seen in a TV show. Can't believe some of the people on this forum defending some of the Tripe served up in defense of the later seasons .

I don't think I'm a hard defender of the last two seasons of GoT (or the last 4 really, but a little bit of series 5 and 6 are a lot better than the last two series we got, the Dornish plot line though ), but even those had the odd good moment? I thought Spoils of War was the only good episode of series 7, the previous 3 were poor at best, far from the amazing episodes we had in the earlier series. Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was the only good episode of series 8 as well, but even all that build up was undone by the Long Night, so in hindsight even the one good episode of series 8 falls flat on its face.

Its just so disappointing

I was (and am) fine with GoT, up to the final 3 episodes. The quality obviously dropped in the final few seasons, but it was far from the war crime people make it out to be.

And I still think the basic plot could have turned out ok if the dipshit writers hadn't decided they wanted to do other things and rushed everything into a single final season.

I've got no problems with most of the final arcs/endings for some of the characters, they needed about two more seasons to do them justice though! Some of them are just awful though. I lost complete interest in it as soon as Euron no scoped with the ballista bolt from about 5 miles away

Dany going mad within 3 episodes
Bran becoming King? Could have been interesting if they'd delved more into the Three Eyed Raven's motives for taking over Bran, why does that being want to sit on the throne?

They really should have handed it over to someone else once they lost interest, rather than try and rush it.

NYT Strands. Today was the day they broke it.

Tomous wrote:S2 of the Bear definitely isn't as good as S1 and it's quite inconsistent but if you don't watch it you miss out on the 2 best episodes of the whole thing.

Agree on the Nolan Batman films. He really strawberry floated the third up.

Spoons

poshrule_uk wrote:

Tomous wrote:S2 of the Bear definitely isn't as good as S1 and it's quite inconsistent but if you don't watch it you miss out on the 2 best episodes of the whole thing.

Agree on the Nolan Batman films. He really strawberry floated the third up.

Spoons

Richie

Moggy wrote:

Robbo-92 wrote:

Albert wrote:Game of Thrones is an obvious one. Possibly the largest drop off in quality I have ever seen in a TV show. Can't believe some of the people on this forum defending some of the Tripe served up in defense of the later seasons .

I don't think I'm a hard defender of the last two seasons of GoT (or the last 4 really, but a little bit of series 5 and 6 are a lot better than the last two series we got, the Dornish plot line though ), but even those had the odd good moment? I thought Spoils of War was the only good episode of series 7, the previous 3 were poor at best, far from the amazing episodes we had in the earlier series. Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was the only good episode of series 8 as well, but even all that build up was undone by the Long Night, so in hindsight even the one good episode of series 8 falls flat on its face.

Its just so disappointing

I was (and am) fine with GoT, up to the final 3 episodes. The quality obviously dropped in the final few seasons, but it was far from the war crime people make it out to be.

And I still think the basic plot could have turned out ok if the dipshit writers hadn't decided they wanted to do other things and rushed everything into a single final season.

I agree and the worst thing is they were offered 2 seasons of 10 episodes each but said they only wanted 6 episodes!

The best thing to come out of the final GoT seasons was the fact the showrunners never got to do the Star Wars films they wanted to do.

Edd wrote:The best thing to come out of the final GoT seasons was the fact the showrunners never got to do the Star Wars films they wanted to do.

To be fair, i'm not sure they could have done any worse than JJ Abrams & that other bloke who did the middle one.

Victor Mildew wrote:

Carlos wrote:The Outer Wilds is best turned off at the title screen.

I still have no idea how this won so many plaudits. Not for me.

Contender for worst post of the year.

I will die on this hill. I tried the game at least 6 times. After taking off and drifting aimlessly through space I managed to lose my ship on some planet that looked interesting but had weird black tentacles coming out of its ocean. Couldn’t get back in. Started again and thought I’d try a different planet and it wasn’t much better. I gave it an honest go and it wasn’t for me.

There may be some point to it that I missed but honestly I thought it was utter trash. I got more enjoyment out of Last Battle. At least that was meme worthy. What’s weird is I never bought it either. It just showed up on my Xbox purchase list one day.

Carlos wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:

Carlos wrote:The Outer Wilds is best turned off at the title screen.

I still have no idea how this won so many plaudits. Not for me.

Contender for worst post of the year.

I will die on this hill. I tried the game at least 6 times. After taking off and drifting aimlessly through space I managed to lose my ship on some planet that looked interesting but had weird black tentacles coming out of its ocean. Couldn’t get back in. Started again and thought I’d try a different planet and it wasn’t much better. I gave it an honest go and it wasn’t for me.

There may be some point to it that I missed but honestly I thought it was utter trash. I got more enjoyment out of Last Battle. At least that was meme worthy. What’s weird is I never bought it either. It just showed up on my Xbox purchase list one day.

Second worst post of the year.

Rex Kramer wrote:NYT Strands. Today was the day they broke it.

I thought yesterday's was fine. Or do you just mean the site is literally broken, because I've noticed it regularly doesn't work for a little while now.

Knoyleo wrote:

Rex Kramer wrote:NYT Strands. Today was the day they broke it.

I thought yesterday's was fine. Or do you just mean the site is literally broken, because I've noticed it regularly doesn't work for a little while now.

No, it was the solution that required crossing over your line. In my mind, that wasn't within the rules defined (probably by me) for the game. Maybe it opens up a world of more complex puzzles but, to me, it felt like a cop out so I'm done.

Victor Mildew wrote:

Carlos wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:

Carlos wrote:The Outer Wilds is best turned off at the title screen.

I still have no idea how this won so many plaudits. Not for me.

Contender for worst post of the year.

I will die on this hill. I tried the game at least 6 times. After taking off and drifting aimlessly through space I managed to lose my ship on some planet that looked interesting but had weird black tentacles coming out of its ocean. Couldn’t get back in. Started again and thought I’d try a different planet and it wasn’t much better. I gave it an honest go and it wasn’t for me.

There may be some point to it that I missed but honestly I thought it was utter trash. I got more enjoyment out of Last Battle. At least that was meme worthy. What’s weird is I never bought it either. It just showed up on my Xbox purchase list one day.

Second worst post of the year.

Sell it to me. I’m serious. A forum is a place to be challenged as much as it is about expression. 25 years ago I thought FFVIII was the worst in the series. I since gave it another chance and would actually say now it’s my favourite of the PS1 trilogy. I’d also say that whilst it’s a brilliant game VII is in fact the least best. And that used to be in my top 10, easy.

Final Fantasy (main series)

FF6-10 are among the finest RPG's ever created, but then it all went to crap.

WTF is wrong with some people?!

Throwing shade at HL2? Get in the bin!


And S2 of The Bear is easily, easily, the better season of television of the two. So much more depth and variety to it, properly explores the motivations and relationships of the characters, recontextualises the tensions of the first season and allows for some genuine development across the cast. The first season was good but repetitive television that was overhyped IMO, the second really delivered on the promise.


Pains me to say it but a book series I would suggest loses it toward the end is Discworld. Probably stop once you get to book 36 Making Money.

I adore Pratchett, the guy was a genius and his work should be celebrated even more than it already is, but toward the end you can really feel the impact of the Alzheimer's on his work. The deftness of the writing was gone, the skilful way he could build the world, evolve the plot, tell a joke and explore something about a character all within the same phrase just wasn't there any more. You could tell the plots and ideas were still there, desperate to make it onto the page but the mechanics of how it was done were starting to break down - literally to an extent: he had to start dictating the books rather than writing them directly which was always going to have an impact.

Albert wrote:West Wing - Such an amazing show, but the last couple of seasons were a rough ride.

This was one I was going to bring up. West Wing is phenomenal at the start, seasons 1 to 3 are about as nailed on a [10] as you can get for me. 4 is where the wobble starts where Sorkin starts to burn out, then season 5 struggles quite a bit without his guidance. They pull things back toward the end though and the final season ends up managing to close things off pretty well IMO.

sounds like we're gonna have to kill jenuall

shy guy 64 wrote:sounds like we're gonna have to kill jenuall

Around here we call that, Wednesday!

Carlos wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:

Carlos wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:

Carlos wrote:The Outer Wilds is best turned off at the title screen.

I still have no idea how this won so many plaudits. Not for me.

Contender for worst post of the year.

I will die on this hill. I tried the game at least 6 times. After taking off and drifting aimlessly through space I managed to lose my ship on some planet that looked interesting but had weird black tentacles coming out of its ocean. Couldn’t get back in. Started again and thought I’d try a different planet and it wasn’t much better. I gave it an honest go and it wasn’t for me.

There may be some point to it that I missed but honestly I thought it was utter trash. I got more enjoyment out of Last Battle. At least that was meme worthy. What’s weird is I never bought it either. It just showed up on my Xbox purchase list one day.

Second worst post of the year.

Sell it to me. I’m serious. A forum is a place to be challenged as much as it is about expression. 25 years ago I thought FFVIII was the worst in the series. I since gave it another chance and would actually say now it’s my favourite of the PS1 trilogy. I’d also say that whilst it’s a brilliant game VII is in fact the least best. And that used to be in my top 10, easy.

I started and tried to play it about 4 times, and gave up. Half the problem was trying to control the ship and just not really understanding what to do. Then as a final role of the dice I went back and took my time with it. Did the tutorials at the start, actually taking it in this time. Went to the moon it specifically tells you to at the start rather than going off and just crashing on some random planet. Pulled at the threads it gave as starting hints, gradually became familiar with the way the world works, how one thing on one planet can relate to another. Once it clicked I couldn't put it down. Loved the mystery of it, having a real life notepad beside me, doing drawings in it, making crude symbol maps, and then by the time I'd finished it I'd rate it as one of the best games I've played.

Got the DLC to play at some point which is supposed to be as long as the main game, and I can't wait to experience it.

I also put the OST on every now and again and get a warm cosy feeling from it

Edit: re-reading your post, it sounds like you might bit have even played long enough to see one of the core game mechanics. No spoilers, but you'll know it when you do.

The Bible.

You should stop at Deuteronomy once the Moses plot wraps up. It was brave to start with a new cast of characters for the sequel but the canon gets confusing, there are numerous retcons and the controversial plot twist jumps the shark.

Yahweh's character arc is totally unbelievable as well. What happened to all that vengeful wrath? Instead we get peace and love. Woke madness.

Parksey wrote:The Bible.

You should stop at Deuteronomy once the Moses plot wraps up. It was brave to start with a new cast of characters for the sequel but the canon gets confusing, there are numerous retcons and the controversial plot twist jumps the shark.

Yahweh's character arc is totally unbelievable as well. What happened to all that vengeful wrath? Instead we get peace and love. Woke madness.

I gave up after "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth". It's the start of the strawberry floating book, you don't need to condescend to me that the universe was the first thing created.

0/10 - would not crusade over.

By stopping early you guys are missing out on all that sweet rape, incest and murder in the bible