The GRcade Tabletop Gaming & Miniature Painting Thread (Warhammer etc)

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Garth » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:34 pm

Don't like painting? How about Ogres then - relatively few models required to make a decent sized army, they're easy enough to paint and convert, and their magic users pack a real punch. They've got a new book coming out in a few months, it'll hopefully fix the problems they currently have on the table (Ogres are one of the weaker armies in the game at the moment, their book dates back to 6th edition).

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Yoshimi » Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:44 pm

I got into 40k last year and managed to spend hundreds on a Chaos Army, terrain etc. Spent untold hours painting and customising. Played about 5 games at GW / Edinburgh Gaming League, but don't have any mates into it so it's all boxed away. :(

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by G-Rat » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:18 pm

Lagamorph wrote:The painting is the part of the game I don't like. I don't really have the patience for it, so it's another strike against the Orks really. They're also pretty much entirely melee based and not all that big on the magic side of things, so not really in my personal preference of play style.

I'm popping into Middlesbrough tomorrow so shall pop into the Games Workshop branch and perhaps check out Dark Elves, High Elves and the two Chaos armies to begin with. The staff in store know I'm looking so have offered to let me play around with the store armies to help make my decision.
Sure, it means they're gonna get a sale out of it at the end, but I have to say that Games Workshop staff have the best customer service I've ever experienced.

I'm also in Holland the weekend after this, and there's a branch in the town I'm staying in, Bredda, and I believe there's one in Amsterdam aswell so I shall pop in there too.


Dark Elf it up, mate.

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by man-eater chimp » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:21 pm

Excuse me while my Tau army destroy you from halfway across the map. GG Broadsides.

Good day to you.

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by Cosmo » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:21 pm

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by kommissarboris » Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:44 pm

Lagamorph wrote:The painting is the part of the game I don't like. I don't really have the patience for it, so it's another strike against the Orks really. They're also pretty much entirely melee based and not all that big on the magic side of things, so not really in my personal preference of play style.

I'm popping into Middlesbrough tomorrow so shall pop into the Games Workshop branch and perhaps check out Dark Elves, High Elves and the two Chaos armies to begin with. The staff in store know I'm looking so have offered to let me play around with the store armies to help make my decision.
Sure, it means they're gonna get a sale out of it at the end, but I have to say that Games Workshop staff have the best customer service I've ever experienced.

I'm also in Holland the weekend after this, and there's a branch in the town I'm staying in, Bredda, and I believe there's one in Amsterdam aswell so I shall pop in there too.


magic you say?

night gobo's my friend.

my old night gobo's army was shooty and magic.

if i remember rightly it consisted of...

5 sheman's, 1 being the leader.

6 bolt throwers

2 fanatic launchers

2 units of gobo archers

3 units of 40 night gobo spears, each maxed out with fanatics.

good times.

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Lagamorph » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:09 am

Night Gobo's? What the hell is a night gobo? :?
I'm somewhat new to the whole Warhammer universe so I may not be up on all of the lingo....hehe....

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Skarjo » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:50 am

Tyranids.

Because if you're fighting wood elves and medieval knights, then badass aliens from the future would probably have the advantage.

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by shas'la » Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:14 am

Lagamorph wrote:Night Gobo's? What the hell is a night gobo? :?
I'm somewhat new to the whole Warhammer universe so I may not be up on all of the lingo....hehe....



Night Goblin, cave dwelling variant of a goblin, in the orcs and goblins army book.

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Tragic Magic » Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:59 am

To be honest, I never played the game. I just liked to paint and make the models. :wub:

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Iron Nan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:19 pm

I love how confused this thread is, dude asks for advice on fantasy armies and 40k rapidly becomes the dominant topic. :lol:

I don't play Fantasy myself as I like the looser style of 40k too but I would steer clear of horde armies these days, GW has been tweaking their rules a lot lately to make the game more and more expensive to play. :(

That said, if you're not going to playing in a GW shop or any official tournaments then you can use whatever the hell models you want and as GW gradually turn more and more greedy there are an increasing number of companies making alternative models for a lot less.

These guys would be a good start: http://www.manticgames.com/

Re: Gretchin, they never went away. :D You can have anything up to a squad of 30 in an Ork army now, complete with one runt herder handler ork per ten and a squig hound which amusingly will gobble up a few if the rest try to leg it. :lol:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1750020

You can get these 'just for fun' models too which I really like the look of.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod900120a
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod900119a

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Lagamorph » Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:53 pm

After popping into the GW branch today and having a look at some of the newest stuff that's come out, I think I'm gonna go with Dark Elves for the time being. Perhaps later I'll pick up some Chaos units too, but I think I'm gonna make my main fantasy army some Dark Elves, led by a guy riding on a dragon :D

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by andretmzt » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:02 pm

I remember buying a Land Raider for what, £20 years ago and now its £40? Christ :?

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by False » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:12 pm

You should get a sub to White Dwarf, loads of cool stuff going on in there.

I had to stop a few years back as the models just got so expensive.

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Iron Nan » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:24 pm

GW have some bizzare ideas about how to run a business, they're latest is that no new releases will be so much as teased until just one week before release. :lol:

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Garth » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:36 pm

They also recently switched to a resin plastic that's cheaper than metal to make minis with, and put the prices up at the same time (the "annual price increase") :fp:
A lot of the Finecast minis have defects too, it's ridiculous. They seem to enjoy burning bridges with their hardcore fans, and instead rely more heavily on making a quick bit of cash from younger gamers who have nothing more than a fleeting interest in the hobby. It'll eventually lead to big problems for them in the future I reckon.
I love a lot of GW's stuff and have done for almost 2 decades, but they've encouraged me to seek out and buy a lot more minis from other manufacturers these past couple of years due to their irritating business decisions.

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by False » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:38 pm

The resin switch isnt new.

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Garth » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:40 pm

Falsey wrote:The resin switch isnt new.


Forge World works with resin, GW began switching to Finecast (a resin plastic) for their metals a couple of months ago:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/conte ... =16700019a

You might have heard it referred to as Flopcast or Finecost.

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by False » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:51 pm

They dont look bad tbh. The metal models I got were always lower quality than the plastic ones. Plus the plastic ones are easier to paint and modify.

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PostRe: Which Warhammer army...
by Garth » Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:08 pm

One of the reasons why they used metal for some minis is because the metal casting process allows for finer detail than plastic, though plastic has come a long way over the years. The Finecast resin plastic allows for even finer detail than metal did, and indeed the quality of the sculpting isn't the issue, it's GW's quality control - many of the Finecast minis suffer from air bubbles that destroy detail on the surface, or air bubbles within the mini that make it more easily broken or even cause the mini to bend and collapse on itself in hot temperatures or direct sunlight, and there has been a shocking amount of miscast parts where the resin plastic hasn't properly filled the entire mould during casting.
Wayland Games, a large independent miniatures retailer, decided to return their entire Finecast shipment back to GW due to random checks revealing an over 50% miscast rate:
http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/games-wor ... t_955.html


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