The GRcade Tabletop Gaming & Miniature Painting Thread (Warhammer etc)

LewisD wrote:The other night I saw this on YouTube and showed it to Falsey because I loved how it looked.

So, in a similar vein (after watching some tutorials obvs) I've been painting this one this evening and really happy with how it's turned out.

Highlighting on the gun could be better, and I need to do the crest thingamajig on his left forearm, but I'm done for the night.

Big fan of the drybrushed silver peaking through the paint of the armour, on the backpack etc.
And the drybrushed necron compound on the sword to give the effect of the black paint having scratched off over the years.

But yeah, pretty happy with how this one turned out. Think I've found my style in a way, and definitely set on Blood Angels now too

Results are great. I might go for a similar approach with the first bunch of ultramarines in a very very long time (like 20 years). I got some neat individual white metal models on eBay a little while back including some vintage MK 1/2/3 armour stuff.

And that video! FINALLY after strawberry floating years of developing my own techniques, basically wet shading/blending and I always paint up from a black undercoat, someone who paints miniatures like some aspects of traditional painting (tone mapping) I can relate to.

Such as on these carapaces

Yes I paint up from chaos black even on the white flesh stuff, but it is probably not necessary using contrast paints now. Or, I have also started painting up from Bubonic Brown and Flesh Wash so it doesn't take a thousand years.

All old citadel paint names.

Green Gecko wrote:You are improving at such a rate I am weirdly cautious about pointing it out, perhaps in case it stops

Aww cheers buddy, I appreciate that :wub:

I put it down to watching more hours of YouTube tutorials than actually painting :lol:

Haven't been painting much this past week, mostly because of the heat in the evenings.

But, has anyone got any tips for batch painting?
I figured I'd try my hand at painting all the remaining 7 marines in one hit but bugger me it's taking ages and I find I'm losing my concentration and making mistakes by the 5th or 6th time of painting silver on a marine for example.

It's disheartening in a way because it's harder to see progress in comparison to painting one dude at a time. Going from unpainted to finished model in one night felt really nice.

Maybe smaller batches? Maybe just go back to one mini at a time

Is that... a pink Primaris Dreadnought in the background?

The same one I'm currently building?

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Imrahil wrote:Is that... a pink Primaris Dreadnought in the background?

The same one I'm currently building?

Haha, good spot.
No that's a regular old school dreadnought.

Got it cheap on eBay, and my youngest wanted it. And he wanted to paint it pink. So (after he forced me to buy pink paint...) He slathered it on good and proper :lol:

re batch painting

i think it helps to think about why you are painting

if you are painting for the tabletop and need to get an army ready quickly then batch painting might be the one

if you are painting for the fun of it with no timetable and enjoy focusing on each troop then individual painting might be best

batch painting is for getting a larger number of models all looking the same in as quick a go as possible, not for having fun - in fact, i dont know any painter - or have seen any creator - who enjoys batch painting; its a method to get as much done as fast as is reasonable

I get a fair bit of fun out of batch painting, finishing each step on a stack of 10-50 models is really satisfying, as is finding and learning new techniques which either speed up the process or provide a better finish without significantly increasing the time invested. It’s absolutely not for everyone but there’s definitely fun and satisfaction to be found.

If I had any advice to someone starting batch painting it would be to keep a recipe book - a note or something on your phone with a rundown or the order and paints used. So for marines it’d look something like:

Base coat armour
Wash armour
Highlight (whether by hand or drybrush)
Metals
Leathers
Iconography
Eyes
Basing

With the colours used at each step listed.

False wrote:re batch painting

i think it helps to think about why you are painting

if you are painting for the tabletop and need to get an army ready quickly then batch painting might be the one

if you are painting for the fun of it with no timetable and enjoy focusing on each troop then individual painting might be best

batch painting is for getting a larger number of models all looking the same in as quick a go as possible, not for having fun - in fact, i dont know any painter - or have seen any creator - who enjoys batch painting; its a method to get as much done as fast as is reasonable

I think this has hit the nail on the head.
I'm in no rush to get them all painted, but I just wanted them all to look the same, but looking at the three finished ones there's nothing to worry about there really.

I think I'll go back to one model at a time. I enjoyed it more and was able to focus a lot better.

Cheers guys :wub:

There are benefits, like saving paint using a wet palette on a production run doing one colour at a time across all models, but it starts feeling too much like work.

False wrote:re batch painting

i think it helps to think about why you are painting

if you are painting for the tabletop and need to get an army ready quickly then batch painting might be the one

if you are painting for the fun of it with no timetable and enjoy focusing on each troop then individual painting might be best

batch painting is for getting a larger number of models all looking the same in as quick a go as possible, not for having fun - in fact, i dont know any painter - or have seen any creator - who enjoys batch painting; its a method to get as much done as fast as is reasonable

I think a lot of new painters get stuck on either not knowing the why or their intentions mismatching with their process. I am a serial batch painter because I know i'm never going to be the very best like no one ever was, I want to get models done and ready to play on the table at a quality level that looks alright in groups of 5+ from 3ft away on a table with a game mat, scenery etc. As such i've gone sideways in terms of development to optimise efficiency and have inadvertently ended up painting better than I ever did before and tackling bigger and more complex models than I ever would have done otherwise.

I only do one model from start to finish when testing out the recipe/process for a bigger batch, i'm currently working on 42 Saxons/Vikings (depending on who they are going to be used as in the ancient/medieval skirmish game Saga) and to me, the thought of doing one to completion then seeing the rows of unpainted models stretching out before me would absolutely crush my motivation, but thats the beauty of creative endeavours in terms of finding what works for you.

I usually try and do batch painting, though so far I've spent more on getting the scheme right for them rather than getting them finished.

Though my preference of batch painting probably has come from years of doing Tyranids.

Benzin wrote:I usually try and do batch painting, though so far I've spent more on getting the scheme right for them rather than getting them finished.

Though my preference of batch painting probably has come from years of doing Tyranids.

-Tyranid army
-Not a batch painter

:dread:

Green Gecko wrote:
Benzin wrote:I usually try and do batch painting, though so far I've spent more on getting the scheme right for them rather than getting them finished.

Though my preference of batch painting probably has come from years of doing Tyranids.

-Tyranid army
-Not a batch painter

That was back when I was young and had the time and ability to waste on them :lol:

Got about 18 Chainrasps to do atm and I just can't get in the mood for them.

Benzin wrote:
Green Gecko wrote:
Benzin wrote:I usually try and do batch painting, though so far I've spent more on getting the scheme right for them rather than getting them finished.

Though my preference of batch painting probably has come from years of doing Tyranids.

-Tyranid army
-Not a batch painter

That was back when I was young and had the time and ability to waste on them

Got about 18 Chainrasps to do atm and I just can't get in the mood for them.

I was more referencing myself. Why did I pick a troop that has 16 units. My carnifex took me 20 years :lol:

I'm really annoyed that Warlord games have gone heavily into the "Gentlemen's War" myth of North Africa for the next Bolt Action starter set:

The idea, as they say in their own blurb is "Although the fighting in this theatre was intense it tended to lack the fanaticism and atrocities seen in other theatres of the war and became known as a gentleman's war." A statement which is objectively untrue with a growing wealth of literature on the subject that shows very much to the contrary. I'm not going to wax on about the subject but instead link to a very good discussion article from goonhammer on the subject that says it way better:

https://www.goonhammer.com/the-goonhammer-round-table-historical-portrayals-in-wargaming/

The tl;dr is that is that no conflict is value-neutral and someone has to play the "bad guys", but it's possible to do that with a mindset (and ruleset) that doesn't reinforce or is built on stereotypes/propaganda and without personally supporting whoever it is. Bolt Action buys into a lot of these things in a way which is somewhat offputting, certainly compared to other WW2 games at the same 28mm reinforced platoon scale such as Chain of Command which have managed to avoid a lot of that in terms of descriptive text and game mechanics.

Seems like they're appealing to the inner loathing or values of somebody who wants to play as a particular factions, in order to sell.

"Oh I play as the good guys! Keep politics out of MAH GAMES!!"

Said the wargamer making a political statement.

When you're selling plastic, it's very important how you sell the plastic. I mean, that's basically all there is.

That's why you play as Chaos, both the good AND bad guys :datass:

My parents found some of my old GW carry cases but without any foam. Since I'm back collecting anyone got any suggestions for foam? Been looking at Tabletop Tyrant as a starter but looking for other options since it's nearly £20 to fill up one case.

Just get some Egg Carton foam?

You can get a big sheet on Amazon for £10
https://www.amazon.co.uk/foam-sheet-440 ... 113&sr=8-3

Or splash out on some Shadow foam (you have to cut around your models - but it's great, used to have it for my gun cases)

https://www.shadowfoam.com/?gclid=Cj0KC ... 31EALw_wcB

Haven't painted in a wee while, too hot, and too busy with work and home DIY.

However, I did get a new stand for my paints.
Fits the pots perfectly AND fits in our new IKEA Billy shelves perfectly !

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