suzzopher wrote:Death's Head wrote:suzzopher wrote:Nintendo games still shift a lot of copies, Phil Spencer and Shu Yoshida would chop off a ball to get games that sell as well.
If they sold that well, we wouldn't be seeing "200K shipped last quarter". I know people on here like Nintendo, but a new Nintendo console focused primarily on Nintendo games is just going to be a repeat of what has been happening. They need an on-line investment/service that matches that of MS and Sony, and they need to have a comparable 3rd party line up and maintain this. Getting people on the PS4 and XBO to give up what they have for an NX is going to be impossible. It really would be much better for Nintendo to just release games on other formats. Imagine how good Nintendo games would be on the PS4 with trophies and all of the on-line features.
Console may not sell well but the appeal of Nintendo games is still huge.
They are not in the same market as PlayStation or Xbox. There is noway that the NX will even try and compete with the PS4, it won't be a technical powerhouse, it won't be offering online services like PSN or Live, it will be doing something different to shake up the market again, you have the big players going all in on VR for the hardcore and tech savvy audience, Nintendo will be making a new play for families and children. They tried to go for the core gamers with Wii U ( remember the reveal at E3 with Battlefield etc ), they got burnt and won't be trying that again.
I don't understand how people can even contemplate justifying this statement... Does no-one remember the NES, SNES, N64? All of those consoles attempted to capture the mass-market's interest as well as the core gamers. And what do people mean by "shaking up the market again"? Do you think the market "needs shaking up"? Or do people want crappy controls for their games, as well as fads like the Wii? Can people stop using these BS excuses to justify Nintendo's stubborn inability to compete in an era when their competitors do it better and are cheaper.
People talk about how Nintendo make games for kids and families... as if Sony and MS don't. Reality check: Ratchet and Clank came out a few weeks ago. Ori won multiple awards. Hell, Knack was a glorified "kiddies" game and people preferred that (by voting with their wallets) rather than the so-called "Return of the King" that was Mario 3D World.
If there was really THAT much demand for Nintendo's games, then the Wii U would have flown off the shelves. Just look at Tetris as an example. Or Pokemon. If people want the games, they will buy the machine.
EDIT: you also seem to forget that by the time the NX launches, the PS4 and XBone will both be around £200. If not cheaper. Why would any self-respecting person who wants a "kids" console opt for the NX when the PS4 and XBone have both had 3-4 years to build up a library that appeals to EVERYONE. The PS4 and XBone are the equivalent of the VHS and Blu-Ray player. Even Disney releases its movies on those platforms.
Nintendo on the other hand are just some weird ego-driven version of an alternative universe Disney who thinks people would be best served by buying a proprietary format for its own movies. In this day and age, that's a dumb (anti-consumerist) move. It's like Activision and Rockstar turning around and saying that they won't release their CoD and GTA games on PS4 and XBone because they'd rather have the games on their own machines. Talk about dumb... They make more money releasing their content on Sony's and MS's machines. Why? Just take a look at potential userbase sales, along with established online infrastructures. Pfft... even Skylanders - What?!?! Another kiddie game?!?! Where are all these kiddie games coming from?!?!? - is on those machines.
This argument about Nintendo going third party is going to hurt them is so stupid.
EDIT (x2): I can picture the scene right now...
a) "Hi son... do you want an NX with ONE game for £250, or do you want TEN TO TWENTY games for your PS4 / XBone for £250"?
b) "Hi son... do you want an NX with ONE game for £250, or do you want a PS4 / XBone for £250 along with 3-5 games? With an NX, games will cost about £30-40 on average 2 years after release (because this is Nintendo we are talking about), whereas with the PS4 / XBone, you can borrow games from your friends, and the games will be cheaper in the same period. You will also get to play CoD and GTA".
"Gee, let me think about it". Said no self-respecting kid EVER!!!
